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Kablooie

(18,637 posts)
Thu Jan 7, 2021, 04:57 AM Jan 2021

Narcissists and suicide

There is a popular belief that “Narcissists rarely commit suicide. When a Narcissist threatens to do this, it’s generally as a means of manipulation” (Saeed 2014). However, studies suggest that NPD is associated with suicidal behavior (Stone 1989, Links et al. 2003, Heisel et al. 2007). For example, a 15-year follow up study of patients admitted to a psychiatric hospital in New York showed that patients with NPD or narcissistic traits were significantly more likely to die from suicide compared to individuals without NPD or narcissistic traits (Stone 1989). Another study found that depressed older adults with narcissistic personalities were at increased suicide risk (Heisel et al. 2007). It has been observed that patients with NPD can be at elevated suicide risk not only during periods when they are depressed but also during periods when they are not suffering from depression (Ronningstam & Maltsberger 1998). Suicidal behavior in individuals with NPD has been explained by the fact that their self-esteem is fragile and suicide attempt may be a response to a perceived narcissistic injury (Perry 1990)
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Just a little thought about Trump,hunkering down in his bunker.

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Narcissists and suicide (Original Post) Kablooie Jan 2021 OP
I don't see him doing this. I see him trying to manipulate. BigmanPigman Jan 2021 #1
You all can tell me how wrong I am... Glamrock Jan 2021 #2
Just to have this over and done with, yes Silent3 Jan 2021 #5
Hitler was a narcissist Withywindle Jan 2021 #3
Well, there's the army of lawyers... (n/t) PJMcK Jan 2021 #4
Wish they'd kill themselves I_UndergroundPanther Jan 2021 #6
I think others would just replace them nuxvomica Jan 2021 #9
Please please please malaise Jan 2021 #7
Jeffrey Epstein checked himself out when there was no more escape Maru Kitteh Jan 2021 #8

Silent3

(15,254 posts)
5. Just to have this over and done with, yes
Thu Jan 7, 2021, 05:40 AM
Jan 2021

Although I'd still prefer for Trump to live to face justice, because simply dying is getting off too easy.

Withywindle

(9,988 posts)
3. Hitler was a narcissist
Thu Jan 7, 2021, 05:07 AM
Jan 2021

And when he saw no other way out, he did it.

I don't think Trump will. There's not a literal army coming for him.

I_UndergroundPanther

(12,480 posts)
6. Wish they'd kill themselves
Thu Jan 7, 2021, 05:42 AM
Jan 2021

All the narcissists.

I hate them ,all of them. I she'd no tears and waste no empathy on them.

Dark triad personalities are a scourge upon the earth.

Every one of these fuckers that die is one less asshole causing havok and abusing innocent people.

nuxvomica

(12,436 posts)
9. I think others would just replace them
Thu Jan 7, 2021, 05:58 AM
Jan 2021

I suspect that such behaviors occupy a sort of ecological niche in society. People see an advantage in occupying that niche and their personalities evolve, or rather, devolve, accordingly. The answer is to create a social structure that doesn't sustain them, that reduces their numbers by attrition, liking removing the food source of a pestilent species. In general, we need to promote a society that values accountability over privilege, especially the privilege of wealth.

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