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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsI truly think he will be removed from Office today. Hopefully sanity, especially with the repubs,
will realize there is no other choice for them. I had thought this may have happened during the night but so far it hasn't. If repubs want to save any face re this debacle, they really have no other alternative.
WhiskeyGrinder
(22,386 posts)janterry
(4,429 posts)I hope you are right. But I suspect the statement from Trump will 'save' him - that he will agree to an orderly transition.
handmade34
(22,756 posts)this statement does not sound like humility or order
Even though I totally disagree with the outcome of the election, and the facts bear me out, nevertheless there will be an orderly transition on January 20th. I have always said we would continue our fight to ensure that only legal votes were counted. While this represents the end of the greatest first term in presidential history, its only the beginning of our fight to Make America Great Again!
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Squinch
(50,989 posts)I hope that's not true and that you're right.
exboyfil
(17,865 posts)Budi
(15,325 posts)...anything taken from Speaker Nancy Pelosis office that was especially popular with the crowd.
One person emerged holding up a piece of a wooden plaque that marked the entrance to Ms. Pelosis office, which someone appeared to have torn off a wall. The rioter held it up like a trophy, as hundreds of people on the steps below cheered wildly. Not our speaker! shouted one woman. Get her out! shouted another man.
Richard Barnett, 60, from Gravette, Ark., stood outside the Capitol, his shirt ripped open and his chest bared to the cold, loudly bragging about how he had broken into the speakers office.
I wrote her a nasty note, put my feet up on her desk, said Mr. Barnett, who goes by the nickname Bigo. He was brandishing an envelope with the speakers letterhead that he had taken from Ms. Pelosis office. He insisted he had not stolen it I put a quarter on her desk.
exboyfil
(17,865 posts)Adjourning the House means that will not happen. Right now I consider the impeachment the most important thing. Our country is running unconstitutionally right now unless Trump has delegated to Pence which I seriously doubt.
The caucus meets and votes again for the Speaker. If enough Democratic Representatives decide that continuing the people's business is more important over the Speaker desire to move on, then we have the caucus vote. If Pelosi loses, then we have a full House vote for a new Speaker with the House Democrats voting as a block
That is how democracy works. It has nothing to do with the rabble.
She is our Speaker for now until our caucus decides otherwise. I never said she wasn't our Speaker.
If the VP and the Cabinet doesn't do there job, then the House needs to do its job. Even still a 25th removal from power is not sufficient. We need a removal from office and a ban on holding any future federal office. A remedy only provided by an impeachment.
Budi
(15,325 posts)Pelosi isn't the one to blame.
And who says she isn't prepping for ANOTHER go at Impeachment?
I hope by monday the blowback will be severe enough that the REPUBLICAN SENATE will feel the urgency as we all do.
You're laying the sole blame on the person that has already made the impeachment a success in the House.
The Senate Republicans hold the cards.
And the groundswell to move them has to come from outside the halls of Pelosi's control.
Your blame is sorely misplaced.
The Genealogist
(4,723 posts)I imagine the Republicans will have gotten their marching orders over night, and we'll hear about "healing the nation" and "moving on" and "reaching across the aisle" and "Trump has learned his lesson."
BlueNProud
(1,048 posts)like his phone call to GA is now forgotten and the 2 huge elections that we talked about for months are now forgotten. There will be a new outrage to replace the old ones soon enough. Mitch will hide from the cameras, Pelosi will issue strongly worded statement, Wilson and Schmidt will publish outraged tweets. Wash rinse repeat.
uponit7771
(90,348 posts)still_one
(92,325 posts)House and Senate, who even after the riotous mob expressed support for trump by objecting to the electoral college certification leaves me very questionable that will happen, because those congressional enablers are still pushing the lies
PirateRo
(933 posts)Any action would be far too little and much too late.
They should have voted never to seat this monster four years ago. They failed.
They had ample opportunity to impeach and remove for years after one abuse after another. They failed.
Pelosi gift wrapped an opportunity to impeach. All they needed to do was vote to remove. They failed.
Instead, they STILL objected Bidens legal right to office to the last day, right to the terrorist attack they themselves fomented.
They are irrelevant now to everything except their own prosecution and prison.
bearsfootball516
(6,377 posts)onenote
(42,737 posts)The fox noise crowd is already trying to rewrite yesterday's events.
malaise
(269,144 posts)It's way too late for him to separate from the love fest with Killa Kon - fuck off Lindsey.
Freddie
(9,272 posts)Today Im hearing crickets about that. They wont do it.
blueinredohio
(6,797 posts)USALiberal
(10,877 posts)Hortensis
(58,785 posts)without further harm, avoiding the need to move immediately to either the 25th or impeachment.
As you'll recall, rather than impeach Reagan for various crimes committed by himself and his administration, a bipartisan deal was made to install a very respected, retired Republican senator as Reagan's chief of staff to impose order on the West Wing.
This is not an endorsement, just relating a comment on what might be happening.
tblue37
(65,472 posts)than in an ugly confrontation with Trump.
Dread Pirate Roberts
(1,896 posts)Nobody has the guts to do it. He needs to be out before he can issue his last round of pardons and before he can do any further damage. Let alone to serve as an example that this kind of behavior cannot be tolerated in a democracy.