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Demsrule86

(68,632 posts)
Thu Jan 7, 2021, 09:12 AM Jan 2021

Anyone think if the terrorists/insurrectionists had managed to grab Nancy, Schumer, AOC and

Pence as well as others, they would have been killed? They went for the ballots and had a plan...this was a planned insurrection. I am so fucking furious. Send them all to jail, including those Senators/House Members I am convinced colluded with these scumbags. Trump is an insurrectionist and remains unrepentant. He must be removed from office using the 25th and arrested.

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Anyone think if the terrorists/insurrectionists had managed to grab Nancy, Schumer, AOC and (Original Post) Demsrule86 Jan 2021 OP
It could have been so much worse. What happened in Michigan toward Governor Whitmer should still_one Jan 2021 #1
Capitols were attacked yesterday too...Trump needs to be removed from office and arrested today. Demsrule86 Jan 2021 #4
the longer he goes w/o punishment the more emboldened his mob is TomDaisy Jan 2021 #11
This is not over. Trump did not concede or give up...Trump must go. Demsrule86 Jan 2021 #27
Agreed still_one Jan 2021 #15
He can't be the president for 15 days...it is too dangerous...I think Pence would have been killed, Demsrule86 Jan 2021 #30
Elaine Chao just resigned. Demsrule86 Jan 2021 #73
Those who got our folks out saved the lives of many...insurrectionists learned to Demsrule86 Jan 2021 #28
Woman who broke into corridor of Pelosi's offices was there to arrest her and Pence Bernardo de La Paz Jan 2021 #55
lin wood is one of those who needs to lose his law practicing license and goto jail AllaN01Bear Jan 2021 #57
+1000 CaptainTruth Jan 2021 #67
Yup...wood needs to be disbarred. Demsrule86 Jan 2021 #74
Did she serve wit Flynn? OhNo-Really Jan 2021 #60
She was in the Air Force...I don't think Flynn was. Demsrule86 Jan 2021 #75
But it's so twagic that she got shot. She didn't deserve it!!!111 Crunchy Frog Jan 2021 #90
You make a good point Butterflylady Jan 2021 #68
They tried to get Raffensberger yesterday. He was escorted to safety. Demsrule86 Jan 2021 #76
I feel like a Biden DoJ will have a lot AleksS Jan 2021 #2
This needs to be investigated. we have traitors possibly in the House and the Senate...both Demsrule86 Jan 2021 #26
the house and senate is RAMPANT with traitors.. Almost 100% HUAJIAO Jan 2021 #29
someone or more colluded with the insurrectionists...let them in to begin with...they need to Demsrule86 Jan 2021 #37
I agree HUAJIAO Jan 2021 #40
I am sure the FBI can figure it out under new leadership...all Trumpers must go. Demsrule86 Jan 2021 #72
True. It's now felony murder, but is everyone subject to the charge? RVN VET71 Jan 2021 #80
this conspiracy runs deep into GOVT and why the CApital was left 100% vulnerable with ACTIVE beachbumbob Jan 2021 #3
They deliberately left our elected to possibly die...heads must roll. Trump's should be the first. Demsrule86 Jan 2021 #5
There were bombs between the DNC and RNC buildings. And the proud boy leader had Demsrule86 Jan 2021 #7
Please, no gifs in sig lines. It clobbers your messages being so distracting they are hard to read Bernardo de La Paz Jan 2021 #52
I love GIFS...but I will consider this for a bit. Demsrule86 Jan 2021 #78
Thanks. You can keep text string handy and copy-paste it into random posts anytime you like. Bernardo de La Paz Jan 2021 #79
What about the truck nearby filled with guns & ammo? SheltieLover Jan 2021 #16
It has to be...too much of a coincidence not to be part of it. Demsrule86 Jan 2021 #24
Absolutely! SheltieLover Jan 2021 #38
Hell, remember Paul Ryan' comment after McCarty's foolish slip about KPN Jan 2021 #58
Do not forget tRump went out of his way to tell his mob of Enoki33 Jan 2021 #64
Yes perhaps, so you have to then give the Capitol Police some credit.. honest.abe Jan 2021 #6
That wasn't them. It was the SS attached to some in the House. Demsrule86 Jan 2021 #9
Ok that's good to know. honest.abe Jan 2021 #12
Actually the Capitol police were directly involved in the evacuation. honest.abe Jan 2021 #49
It was the Secret Service that got members to safety. Demsrule86 Jan 2021 #77
Did you see the video? honest.abe Jan 2021 #84
".........before the terrorists got in." HUAJIAO Jan 2021 #31
I think this was a repeat of the Michigan playbook malaise Jan 2021 #8
I think so too...these bastards need to experience prison and soon. Demsrule86 Jan 2021 #17
The women would have been raped, maybe some of the men, too obamanut2012 Jan 2021 #10
I shudder to think...it turns me cold with terror to think what would have happened to the Demsrule86 Jan 2021 #18
Yes, I keep thinking of AOC, Omar, etc. obamanut2012 Jan 2021 #23
Thank God they were basically saved... a big thanks to all who managed this. Demsrule86 Jan 2021 #34
They knew the Parliamentarian maintained the EVs Captain Zero Jan 2021 #13
That is exactly right...members of Congress on the right and/or those who work for them Demsrule86 Jan 2021 #19
There was a retired Ai Force Intel Officer there obamanut2012 Jan 2021 #25
He can be put back into the military court martialed and could spend years in prison. Demsrule86 Jan 2021 #35
Exactly obamanut2012 Jan 2021 #36
And it needs to happen...Those who participated in this need to be arrested, prosecuted and Demsrule86 Jan 2021 #46
Indeed! This isn't a 1A issue obamanut2012 Jan 2021 #70
We are very fortunate that half the Congress and the VP are not dead. Demsrule86 Jan 2021 #71
Wow. just wow! FailureToCommunicate Jan 2021 #65
Treason Barr would have done nothing . .. Iliyah Jan 2021 #14
It is a damned disgrace...Trump need to go today. Demsrule86 Jan 2021 #20
Barr DID do nothing. JHB Jan 2021 #22
I bet he resigned because he knew but he didn't tell anyone. Demsrule86 Jan 2021 #32
And what are more recent appointees who have resigned avoiding, yet not divulging? SheltieLover Jan 2021 #39
He is not giving up...there is still talk of the 25th this morning, I hope so. Demsrule86 Jan 2021 #45
EXACTLY! SheltieLover Jan 2021 #50
And Donnie would have made his way to the Capitol afterwards and strutted in like a conquering king. tanyev Jan 2021 #21
That was the plan...dictator Donnie...burn the ballots, kill his 'enemies and any who resist. Demsrule86 Jan 2021 #33
Yes, I do. GaYellowDawg Jan 2021 #41
I can't even imagine...I cried yesterday as a military brat...both my parent were Navy watching Demsrule86 Jan 2021 #43
Yes! But I was both outraged and smiling when treasonous hoodlums Hortensis Jan 2021 #61
Killed or held hostage.... Roisin Ni Fiachra Jan 2021 #42
That is a very appropriate quote. And if you think about it...Trump sent them and planned Demsrule86 Jan 2021 #44
Planned on taking hostages zip ties handcuffs keithbvadu2 Jan 2021 #47
Domestic terrorists which the Trump Administration has not allowed the FBI to investigate. Demsrule86 Jan 2021 #81
No doubt in my mind. Turin_C3PO Jan 2021 #48
You know they are coming back for the inauguration...posted on righty sites I monitor. Demsrule86 Jan 2021 #82
tRump planned & instigated it, yet he is still in office, what does that tell you about our fucked yaesu Jan 2021 #51
Trumps needs to go to prison. Demsrule86 Jan 2021 #83
In Michigan bdamomma Jan 2021 #53
They want to kill someone...and must be stopped. Domestic terrorists is what they are. Demsrule86 Jan 2021 #86
Domestic terrorists bdamomma Jan 2021 #97
Unruly mob Bear Creek Jan 2021 #54
I was thinking about that too...there are more sophisticated groups...I think about those movies Demsrule86 Jan 2021 #87
Scary Bear Creek Jan 2021 #99
There's no doubt in my mind, yes, they would have been severely harmed or killed. shrike3 Jan 2021 #56
I have seen filthy posts about Democratic women...on the righty sites...I have not doubt some would Demsrule86 Jan 2021 #88
I'd forgotten about that. Yes, awful stuff about Democratic women. shrike3 Jan 2021 #98
They believed if they took the ballots, they could have forced another election. LiberalArkie Jan 2021 #59
Maybe they were trying to buy time to go after legislatures to send new ones. Demsrule86 Jan 2021 #89
They had a noose AnnieBW Jan 2021 #62
That was chilling and a guillotine as well. Demsrule86 Jan 2021 #91
They coulda spread covid. Jetheels Jan 2021 #63
They could have but I bet they would have beat down lawmakers instead. Demsrule86 Jan 2021 #92
The mob would have killed the Democratic lawmakers... Paladin Jan 2021 #66
Right...and still some in the GOP objected to the electors...disgusting. Demsrule86 Jan 2021 #93
Follow the (Russian) money? 3825-87867 Jan 2021 #69
I was thinking about that yesterday too...what were they doing? Demsrule86 Jan 2021 #94
Yes. Beaten humiliated, and murdered. RVN VET71 Jan 2021 #85
You nailed it. That was the plan and the police did very little. Demsrule86 Jan 2021 #95
I can excuse police inaction as due to their being under-staffed and ill prepared RVN VET71 Jan 2021 #96

still_one

(92,325 posts)
1. It could have been so much worse. What happened in Michigan toward Governor Whitmer should
Thu Jan 7, 2021, 09:16 AM
Jan 2021

have told us how dangerous trump and his followers are



Demsrule86

(68,632 posts)
30. He can't be the president for 15 days...it is too dangerous...I think Pence would have been killed,
Thu Jan 7, 2021, 09:40 AM
Jan 2021

It likely was part of the plan. This was an assassination attempt in many ways. No doubt his worthless daughter or son would have become VP at this point.

Demsrule86

(68,632 posts)
28. Those who got our folks out saved the lives of many...insurrectionists learned to
Thu Jan 7, 2021, 09:38 AM
Jan 2021

build guillotines for a reason.

Bernardo de La Paz

(49,027 posts)
55. Woman who broke into corridor of Pelosi's offices was there to arrest her and Pence
Thu Jan 7, 2021, 11:28 AM
Jan 2021

Like she was on a mission (ex-military) she had planned and knew where to go. She was leading in front and thus was the one shot.



Butterflylady

(3,546 posts)
68. You make a good point
Thu Jan 7, 2021, 12:12 PM
Jan 2021

What happened in Michigan should have been taken more seriously. They were coming to make trouble. Maybe we should have drawn them pictures because it sure seems having it written down didn't do it for them.

AleksS

(1,665 posts)
2. I feel like a Biden DoJ will have a lot
Thu Jan 7, 2021, 09:16 AM
Jan 2021

of work to do. A lot of phone records, emails, and texts to sift through.

And now that a person died, ALL the planners, colluders, and conspirators are on the hook. No matter their office.

Demsrule86

(68,632 posts)
26. This needs to be investigated. we have traitors possibly in the House and the Senate...both
Thu Jan 7, 2021, 09:35 AM
Jan 2021

both elected and those who work there.

Demsrule86

(68,632 posts)
37. someone or more colluded with the insurrectionists...let them in to begin with...they need to
Thu Jan 7, 2021, 10:07 AM
Jan 2021

be identified and arrested.

RVN VET71

(2,694 posts)
80. True. It's now felony murder, but is everyone subject to the charge?
Thu Jan 7, 2021, 02:50 PM
Jan 2021

I’m asking the question and have no idea what is the answer.

 

beachbumbob

(9,263 posts)
3. this conspiracy runs deep into GOVT and why the CApital was left 100% vulnerable with ACTIVE
Thu Jan 7, 2021, 09:16 AM
Jan 2021

participation of many Capital Police in assisting the trump mob in breaching the Capital. Massive video evidence shows this happenin

We were so fucking lucky these folks did not have fully automatic weapons. No indication of any such arms yesterday. If they had, the outcome would have 100s dead, including US Congress people and Senators

Demsrule86

(68,632 posts)
7. There were bombs between the DNC and RNC buildings. And the proud boy leader had
Thu Jan 7, 2021, 09:20 AM
Jan 2021

equipment for automatic weapons.

Bernardo de La Paz

(49,027 posts)
52. Please, no gifs in sig lines. It clobbers your messages being so distracting they are hard to read
Thu Jan 7, 2021, 11:21 AM
Jan 2021

Totally dominates the thread.

Sorry, I didn't read anywhere near as much of your thread as I would have under other circumstances.

SheltieLover

(57,073 posts)
16. What about the truck nearby filled with guns & ammo?
Thu Jan 7, 2021, 09:27 AM
Jan 2021

I've not seen detailed info, but perhaps that was part of their plan?

KPN

(15,647 posts)
58. Hell, remember Paul Ryan' comment after McCarty's foolish slip about
Thu Jan 7, 2021, 11:43 AM
Jan 2021

so and so (an R Congressman) on Putin’s payroll “This stays in the family”.

This runs very deep and too many have been naive about both its existence and its intention. They have been planning a one party State for decades.

Enoki33

(1,587 posts)
64. Do not forget tRump went out of his way to tell his mob of
Thu Jan 7, 2021, 12:11 PM
Jan 2021

white supremacists before sending them on their way to respect the boys in blue. Think he intimated they were friends. By so doing he confirmed what we suspect.

honest.abe

(8,680 posts)
6. Yes perhaps, so you have to then give the Capitol Police some credit..
Thu Jan 7, 2021, 09:20 AM
Jan 2021

for at least focusing on getting everyone out before the terrorists got in. Still they failed miserably but the situation could have been much much worse.

honest.abe

(8,680 posts)
49. Actually the Capitol police were directly involved in the evacuation.
Thu Jan 7, 2021, 11:04 AM
Jan 2021

See 0:39 in this video of members of congress being evacuated.



That female officer is wearing a Capitol police uniform as well as the male officer at 0:44.

malaise

(269,144 posts)
8. I think this was a repeat of the Michigan playbook
Thu Jan 7, 2021, 09:21 AM
Jan 2021

that was exposed by intelligence - there would have been kidnappings and executions

obamanut2012

(26,094 posts)
10. The women would have been raped, maybe some of the men, too
Thu Jan 7, 2021, 09:22 AM
Jan 2021

On livestream. Then beaten and ;probably killed.

Demsrule86

(68,632 posts)
18. I shudder to think...it turns me cold with terror to think what would have happened to the
Thu Jan 7, 2021, 09:29 AM
Jan 2021

squad...the righties hate them.

Captain Zero

(6,821 posts)
13. They knew the Parliamentarian maintained the EVs
Thu Jan 7, 2021, 09:24 AM
Jan 2021

They specifically ransacked that office looking for them.

The Former air force woman was shot trying to get down the hallway to Pelosis office.

They had a plan. Who aided and abetted them?

Demsrule86

(68,632 posts)
19. That is exactly right...members of Congress on the right and/or those who work for them
Thu Jan 7, 2021, 09:31 AM
Jan 2021

were in on this.

Demsrule86

(68,632 posts)
46. And it needs to happen...Those who participated in this need to be arrested, prosecuted and
Thu Jan 7, 2021, 10:29 AM
Jan 2021

any self respecting employer will fire those who tried to commit treason. There should be a price to be paid.

Iliyah

(25,111 posts)
14. Treason Barr would have done nothing . ..
Thu Jan 7, 2021, 09:25 AM
Jan 2021

the acting DOJ is doing nothing. The Capitol Police have been compromised and the USA still have treasonous republican congresscritters in office.

JHB

(37,161 posts)
22. Barr DID do nothing.
Thu Jan 7, 2021, 09:33 AM
Jan 2021

He knew a play like this was afoot and said nothing, just bailed out early to wipe off his fingerprints.

Demsrule86

(68,632 posts)
45. He is not giving up...there is still talk of the 25th this morning, I hope so.
Thu Jan 7, 2021, 10:27 AM
Jan 2021

He is dangerous...what else is he planning?

SheltieLover

(57,073 posts)
50. EXACTLY!
Thu Jan 7, 2021, 11:09 AM
Jan 2021

And patriarchy will wring its figurative hands and do nothing.

I've never wanted to be wrong about something so much!

Meanwhile, who knows what else they are planning?

tanyev

(42,594 posts)
21. And Donnie would have made his way to the Capitol afterwards and strutted in like a conquering king.
Thu Jan 7, 2021, 09:32 AM
Jan 2021

IMO.

Demsrule86

(68,632 posts)
33. That was the plan...dictator Donnie...burn the ballots, kill his 'enemies and any who resist.
Thu Jan 7, 2021, 09:43 AM
Jan 2021

Next make state legislatures appoint Trump electors ...thus our Republic ends.

Demsrule86

(68,632 posts)
43. I can't even imagine...I cried yesterday as a military brat...both my parent were Navy watching
Thu Jan 7, 2021, 10:24 AM
Jan 2021

the way the flag was misused by these cretins...these people are traitors.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
61. Yes! But I was both outraged and smiling when treasonous hoodlums
Thu Jan 7, 2021, 11:53 AM
Jan 2021

replaced the American flag with Trump flags. Nothing like extremely offensive symbolism to deliver messages through intense gut reactions to conservative and unengaged brains. Not our brightest traitors.

Roisin Ni Fiachra

(2,574 posts)
42. Killed or held hostage....
Thu Jan 7, 2021, 10:20 AM
Jan 2021
“A mob is not autonomous: it executes the real will of the people who rule the State. The slaughter in Birmingham, Alabama, for example, was not merely the action of a mob.” - James Baldwin

Demsrule86

(68,632 posts)
44. That is a very appropriate quote. And if you think about it...Trump sent them and planned
Thu Jan 7, 2021, 10:26 AM
Jan 2021

to arrive once they had secured the Capitol to continue the insurrection. It was his will and of other traitors in the House and Senate which formed this mob...and it was a deadly attack on our Republic.

Turin_C3PO

(14,022 posts)
48. No doubt in my mind.
Thu Jan 7, 2021, 10:33 AM
Jan 2021

I think every Democrat and some Republicans would have been executed by these terrorists. I’m praying Joe Biden has competent security because I think he has a target on his back.

yaesu

(8,020 posts)
51. tRump planned & instigated it, yet he is still in office, what does that tell you about our fucked
Thu Jan 7, 2021, 11:19 AM
Jan 2021

up country?

bdamomma

(63,917 posts)
53. In Michigan
Thu Jan 7, 2021, 11:21 AM
Jan 2021

they stormed their State house and wanted to kidnap and kill Governor Whitmer, these thugs are not Americans but treasonous bastards.

Who repeat the same thing their mob boss tells him too. That is why they love tRump so much he's their Mob Boss and they love chaos

bdamomma

(63,917 posts)
97. Domestic terrorists
Thu Jan 7, 2021, 04:23 PM
Jan 2021

do you realize how many attacks there have been in this country due to these cretins. They must be held accountable. tRump needs to removed as soon as possible, Rudy too should be disbarred.

Bear Creek

(883 posts)
54. Unruly mob
Thu Jan 7, 2021, 11:27 AM
Jan 2021

Did this? What would a trained group do? Some small thought, what if this was allowed so it would be a practice run? They are going to have to make examples out of them.

Demsrule86

(68,632 posts)
87. I was thinking about that too...there are more sophisticated groups...I think about those movies
Thu Jan 7, 2021, 02:56 PM
Jan 2021

where the White House is attacked...

Bear Creek

(883 posts)
99. Scary
Thu Jan 7, 2021, 06:02 PM
Jan 2021

But not out of the question. I am a bit worried about the inauguration. Maybe this time it shouldn't be public. Could use Covid19 concerns for limited access.

shrike3

(3,720 posts)
56. There's no doubt in my mind, yes, they would have been severely harmed or killed.
Thu Jan 7, 2021, 11:35 AM
Jan 2021

Or held hostage, as someone else said.

Demsrule86

(68,632 posts)
88. I have seen filthy posts about Democratic women...on the righty sites...I have not doubt some would
Thu Jan 7, 2021, 02:57 PM
Jan 2021

face rape from this scum...many are incels too.

LiberalArkie

(15,727 posts)
59. They believed if they took the ballots, they could have forced another election.
Thu Jan 7, 2021, 11:47 AM
Jan 2021

They did not read the part of the law about copies.

The electors count the results and
then sign six certificates, each of which contains two lists,
one of which includes the electoral votes for the President,
the other, electoral votes for the Vice President, each of
which includes the names of persons receiving votes and
the number of votes cast for them. These are known as
Certificates of the Vote, which the electors are required to
sign. They then pair the six Certificates of Ascertainment
provided by the state governors with the Certificates of the
Vote, and sign, seal, and certify them(3 U.S.C. §§8-10).

The six certificates are then distributed by registered mail
as follows: (1) one certificate to the President of the U.S.
Senate (the Vice President); (2)two certificates to the
secretary of state (or equivalent officer) of the state in
which the electors met; (3) two certificates to the Archivist;
and (4) one certificate to the judge of the U.S. district court
of the district in which the electors met (3 U.S.C. §11).

Paladin

(28,269 posts)
66. The mob would have killed the Democratic lawmakers...
Thu Jan 7, 2021, 12:12 PM
Jan 2021

...and then trump would have done his best to pardon them. Always count on trump to do something worse than you expect---he openly-and-obviously fomented that goon takeover of the capitol, and he'll probably get away with it, with little or no punishment.

3825-87867

(855 posts)
69. Follow the (Russian) money?
Thu Jan 7, 2021, 12:13 PM
Jan 2021

Inside payoffs?

Lower level people have been bought for a lot less than Senators or Representatives.
Don't know what the going Russian rate for a President, Senator, Repsresentative, Governor, Mayor, Local Councilman, Police Chief, Patrolman, janitor or ex G.I. is, but it's something Puk-tin can definitely can afford and probably has! And a lot of low level people can be bought cheaply today in this country.

Kinda makes the July 4th visit by our quissling Reps look suspicious! Time to check bank accounts of a lot of people!

RVN VET71

(2,694 posts)
85. Yes. Beaten humiliated, and murdered.
Thu Jan 7, 2021, 02:53 PM
Jan 2021

Not a doubt in my mind. The mob became a single, vicious animal. The police, unprepared and, in many cases, complicit, withdrew -- and maybe it was better to let the ransacking go on until the venom was completely expended. It was either that or fire on the attackers and litter the ground around the Capitol with the bleeding bodies of the dead and wounded, as if they were Black people!

RVN VET71

(2,694 posts)
96. I can excuse police inaction as due to their being under-staffed and ill prepared
Thu Jan 7, 2021, 03:10 PM
Jan 2021

I saw the video of the one cop practically pleading with the attacking mob and finally having to flee for his life. That guy deserves a commendation for at least trying to do something.

But the selfies and the opening of the gate . . . somebody’s head has to roll for those acts of complicity.

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