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bigtree

(85,998 posts)
Sat Oct 6, 2012, 02:02 PM Oct 2012

NBC Tells Obama Campaign Not To Use Its News Footage In Ads (Andrea Mitchell in the most recent)

10/6/12 1:47 PM EDT


NBC has asked President Barack Obama’s campaign to stop using the network’s footage in a recently released re-election ad, POLITICO has learned.

In a letter sent Friday night to Obama campaign manager Jim Messina, NBC told the Obama campaign to cease using network footage in a new 30-second spot, released shortly after Wednesday’s debate, in which Andrea Mitchell is shown on air citing an independent study stating that Mitt Romney’s tax plan would cost $4.8 trillion over 10 years, a source said.

NBC News has faced issues like this throughout the campaign, including a Romney campaign ad that featured Tom Brokaw.

“NBC News has not granted any campaign permission to use our news material. As is our practice, we have requested that the Obama campaign refrain from using NBC News material in this and future advertisements,” the network said in a statement.

http://www.politico.com/news/stories/1012/82104.html?hp=r2


1992: James Carville yelling at Andrea Mitchell


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NBC Tells Obama Campaign Not To Use Its News Footage In Ads (Andrea Mitchell in the most recent) (Original Post) bigtree Oct 2012 OP
That's because it's no longer a "horse race" BumRushDaShow Oct 2012 #1
Andrea Greenspan doesn't like it one bit. swayne Oct 2012 #2
CBS jehop61 Oct 2012 #3
Why? Are they embarrassed? fugop Oct 2012 #4
Make them sue you ... Trajan Oct 2012 #5
I agree TeamPooka Oct 2012 #11
Or what? NBC will sue the Obama Campaign?.... OldDem2012 Oct 2012 #6
Given that campaign ads, from the candidates mythology Oct 2012 #19
This would strike me as fair use jsmirman Oct 2012 #7
The cannot stop them. It's called "Fair Use" flamingdem Oct 2012 #8
NBC has a point and really the campaign should cite the study, not the talking head who read it. Gidney N Cloyd Oct 2012 #9
NBC has zero legal grounds to stand on. The heck with them. nt. OldDem2012 Oct 2012 #12
Tuff Sh*t NBC awake Oct 2012 #10
GE owns NBC and MSNBC. Think Jack Welsh has anything to do with this? summerschild Oct 2012 #13
Obama FTC to Comcast -- stop using our airwaves. Octafish Oct 2012 #14
If the quote was taken out of context and is being misrepresented, they've got a beef. gkhouston Oct 2012 #15
Jerks ailsagirl Oct 2012 #16
Could be simple posturing to appear fair ksoze Oct 2012 #17
I want a stop and cease order on Queen Ann SoapBox Oct 2012 #18
Thank you Internet! NBC can't keep people from seeing the commercial. Politicub Oct 2012 #20
Hey NBC. Your duct tape is not fitting around this thing and release hostage Big Bird! lonestarnot Oct 2012 #21
Just tell them you'll stop by November 7th...n/t tokenlib Oct 2012 #22

BumRushDaShow

(129,096 posts)
1. That's because it's no longer a "horse race"
Sat Oct 6, 2012, 02:04 PM
Oct 2012

and facts can't play a part to keep it that way. Oh no, they CAN'T have that!

 

swayne

(383 posts)
2. Andrea Greenspan doesn't like it one bit.
Sat Oct 6, 2012, 02:07 PM
Oct 2012

She reported it and now NBC has a problem with it? She was reporting the news...independently???.....at least most people thought so.

I find it highly peculiar that a complaint comes up now....just one her segement....esepcially after she coddles John Sununu.

Obama should tell NBC to kiss his ENTIRE ass....

jehop61

(1,735 posts)
3. CBS
Sat Oct 6, 2012, 02:10 PM
Oct 2012

In Michigan, we keep seeing a Romney ad using Scott Pelley. How come CBS hasn't told them to desist? Perhaps they are a tad biased?

fugop

(1,828 posts)
4. Why? Are they embarrassed?
Sat Oct 6, 2012, 02:11 PM
Oct 2012

Seriously, I get why musicians get mad when their music is used. And if the Obama campaign were completely twisting around the news of the "newspeople" (Ha. I can't use journalist. It would be a lie.), I'd get it. But they don't want him to use NEWS in his ads?

That's pathetic.

 

Trajan

(19,089 posts)
5. Make them sue you ...
Sat Oct 6, 2012, 02:11 PM
Oct 2012

The campaign is only using a short clip of the copyrighted material .... This is a clear Fair use issue ....

OldDem2012

(3,526 posts)
6. Or what? NBC will sue the Obama Campaign?....
Sat Oct 6, 2012, 02:11 PM
Oct 2012

...How would NBC feel about the Obama Campaign pulling all of their ad money from NBC and spending it on other networks?

 

mythology

(9,527 posts)
19. Given that campaign ads, from the candidates
Sat Oct 6, 2012, 02:40 PM
Oct 2012

get the lowest ad rate the network has, they'd probably be quite happy with both campaigns not advertising on their network. If I were having to sell prime time ads at the 2 am ad price, I'd be happy to stop doing so.

jsmirman

(4,507 posts)
7. This would strike me as fair use
Sat Oct 6, 2012, 02:14 PM
Oct 2012

and that NBC can go fuck itself.

First, it's just a clip, and second, what is newsworthy is everything they used.

Probably best to play nice with them, but I'd be interested in a lawyer's take who knows more about this than I do.

flamingdem

(39,313 posts)
8. The cannot stop them. It's called "Fair Use"
Sat Oct 6, 2012, 02:14 PM
Oct 2012

and documentary filmmakers use news footage all the time.

Not sure of exactly how it works with a campaign but the surrogates and Pacs can do it.. I think

Gidney N Cloyd

(19,841 posts)
9. NBC has a point and really the campaign should cite the study, not the talking head who read it.
Sat Oct 6, 2012, 02:14 PM
Oct 2012

To clarify (on edit) if NBC itself had done the study then fuck 'em. But they're just reading a study someone else did then quoting them quoting another source could be misleading.

awake

(3,226 posts)
10. Tuff Sh*t NBC
Sat Oct 6, 2012, 02:14 PM
Oct 2012

NBC still uses the public airways if they want to take Obama's team to court lets go at it, it will only give the ad more air play. NBC had no problem using rev. wright's videos so turn around is fair-play.

gkhouston

(21,642 posts)
15. If the quote was taken out of context and is being misrepresented, they've got a beef.
Sat Oct 6, 2012, 02:31 PM
Oct 2012

Otherwise, belt up.

ksoze

(2,068 posts)
17. Could be simple posturing to appear fair
Sat Oct 6, 2012, 02:35 PM
Oct 2012

They want to appear as middle as possible, hence a friendly letter which will never be enforced, but could be used to show lack of bias. I would take off the tin foil hats.

Politicub

(12,165 posts)
20. Thank you Internet! NBC can't keep people from seeing the commercial.
Sat Oct 6, 2012, 02:44 PM
Oct 2012

It's out there now. One unintended consequence is that NBC is spotlighting the ad. People who have never heard about it (like me) will be looking for it.

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