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scarletwoman

(31,893 posts)
Fri Jan 8, 2021, 12:23 AM Jan 2021

How can the Biden Inauguration be secured when we know that trumpists have infested LEOs & military?

If there were insiders in the DOD who contrived to leave DC & Congress unprotected yesterday, and trumpists in the Capitol Police - who in the world can be trusted to provide security for the Inauguration?

We KNOW the MAGAs are already planning a renewed assault in DC on January 20. It's delusional to think they'd be standing down, not with the success they had on Tuesday.

I sure hope Biden has some friends in the FBI, because I think our country is in grave danger.

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How can the Biden Inauguration be secured when we know that trumpists have infested LEOs & military? (Original Post) scarletwoman Jan 2021 OP
I scared of him taking the oath at the Capital MustLoveBeagles Jan 2021 #1
yeah - the Capital steps notinkansas Jan 2021 #25
IIRC, Joe was sworn in as a Senator in a hospital. Talitha Jan 2021 #37
And LBJ on Air Force One. LiberalFighter Jan 2021 #43
one suspects he will take the oath in a simple ceremony indoors somewhere nt msongs Jan 2021 #2
Can't be, imo; elleng Jan 2021 #3
Agree. Once he's officially president he'll have the levels of power in hand to root out the snakes. scarletwoman Jan 2021 #6
The safest time to do anything is right after an attack. marylandblue Jan 2021 #4
This..it's not just capital police, it will SS, FBI, DC metro and Ntl guard from several states that Thekaspervote Jan 2021 #12
I disagree. There won't be anyone who can be trusted for sure until AFTER Biden is sworn in and has scarletwoman Jan 2021 #15
This isn't Biden's first rodeo..I think they've got it covered Thekaspervote Jan 2021 #20
A handful of unprepared and overmatched Capital Police let them in. marylandblue Jan 2021 #21
Please see below - this is why I'm worried: scarletwoman Jan 2021 #32
Yeah, I saw that, but I am not worried. marylandblue Jan 2021 #35
So glad to see people talking about this. MontanaMama Jan 2021 #5
Biden has chosen a trusted SS agent who protected moonscape Jan 2021 #9
One SS is fine. But there needs to be more than one. MontanaMama Jan 2021 #11
Of course. I'm thinking he's on it. n/t moonscape Jan 2021 #14
Yes, but surely the one in charge of Biden knows the system very well and knows who he can trust. Flaleftist Jan 2021 #34
The Deep State talk is more right wing projection. rickford66 Jan 2021 #7
How do we know sarisataka Jan 2021 #8
How do we know Germany won't invade North America this Saturday? StarfishSaver Jan 2021 #13
☝️☝️☝️☝️☝️ Thekaspervote Jan 2021 #17
Because they will be busy sarisataka Jan 2021 #22
:-) StarfishSaver Jan 2021 #23
Oh please ...no conspiracy theories Thekaspervote Jan 2021 #16
That one was just off the top of my head sarisataka Jan 2021 #24
Because Trump won't even be there Diraven Jan 2021 #28
lol obamanut2012 Jan 2021 #42
This is a disgusting fact, and shows that these folks aren't going away. SoCal Roomba Jan 2021 #10
I ttrust the Secret Service. They'll keep both Joe & Kamala safe. I'm positive of it. As far as napi21 Jan 2021 #18
This StarfishSaver Jan 2021 #19
what succeed did they have on Tuesday? Kaleva Jan 2021 #26
They succeeded in invading the Capitol building - and so far, most of them got away free. scarletwoman Jan 2021 #27
They had one goal and they failed miserably Kaleva Jan 2021 #38
Hold it in the White House, with shoot to kill orders for any security breach. nt Progressive Jones Jan 2021 #29
I think this should be done in the Oval Office Bayard Jan 2021 #30
I hope they cancel the outdoor swearing-in. ucrdem Jan 2021 #31
I totally agree. scarletwoman Jan 2021 #33
Agreed. crickets Jan 2021 #36
The Military will hold, Period! denbot Jan 2021 #39
didn't Johnson take the oath on a plane in flight? eShirl Jan 2021 #40
Yes, but that was because they were flying back to Washington after JFK was killed. scarletwoman Jan 2021 #41

Talitha

(6,613 posts)
37. IIRC, Joe was sworn in as a Senator in a hospital.
Fri Jan 8, 2021, 02:21 AM
Jan 2021

It doesn't matter where an oath is taken.

It only matters that it's taken.

scarletwoman

(31,893 posts)
6. Agree. Once he's officially president he'll have the levels of power in hand to root out the snakes.
Fri Jan 8, 2021, 12:30 AM
Jan 2021

Until he's officially in charge, it's going to be too dangerous to trust anyone left behind by trump.

marylandblue

(12,344 posts)
4. The safest time to do anything is right after an attack.
Fri Jan 8, 2021, 12:28 AM
Jan 2021

That's when everyone is on high alert and traitors run for cover. DC will be a fortress on Inauguration Day and everything will be fine.

Thekaspervote

(32,793 posts)
12. This..it's not just capital police, it will SS, FBI, DC metro and Ntl guard from several states that
Fri Jan 8, 2021, 12:34 AM
Jan 2021

Have been deployed and will be there until after the inauguration

Not to mention they aren’t going to let rioters within a mile of the capital

Agree DC is and will continue to be an armed fortress for some time to come

scarletwoman

(31,893 posts)
15. I disagree. There won't be anyone who can be trusted for sure until AFTER Biden is sworn in and has
Fri Jan 8, 2021, 12:35 AM
Jan 2021

his presidential powers in hand.

I mean, just who will be on "high alert"? How would we know for sure that any security arrangements being made aren't a set up to let the coupsters swoop in? Like the Capitol Police letting in the MAGA mob.

marylandblue

(12,344 posts)
21. A handful of unprepared and overmatched Capital Police let them in.
Fri Jan 8, 2021, 12:44 AM
Jan 2021

No doubt they will be fired. The Chief who left them unprepared is already gone. Top Military leaders, the NSC, DC Police, FBI, Biden's own SS staff, National Guard, all want nothing to do with the fiasco and are not going to let it happen again. Normally one bureaucrat accepts the work of another, this time, they will all check each other, and add extra protection if they have any doubts.

scarletwoman

(31,893 posts)
32. Please see below - this is why I'm worried:
Fri Jan 8, 2021, 01:34 AM
Jan 2021
https://www.businessinsider.com/trump-attempted-coup-federal-law-enforcement-capitol-police-2021-1

Some among America's military allies believe Trump deliberately attempted a coup and may have had help from federal law-enforcement officials

Multiple European security officials told Insider that President Donald Trump appeared to have tacit support among US federal agencies responsible for securing the Capitol complex in Wednesday's coup attempt.

Insider is reporting this information because it illustrates the serious repercussions of Wednesday's events: Even if they are mistaken, some among America's international military allies are now willing to give credence to the idea that Trump deliberately tried to violently overturn an election and had help from some federal law-enforcement agents.

"We train alongside the US federal law enforcement to handle these very matters, and it's obvious that large parts of any successful plan were just ignored," one source told us.

Also: https://democraticunderground.com/100214850479

Pentagon leaders installed as part of Trump purge last month blocked DC National Guard from getting riot gear and ammunition as protesters descended on Capitol.

marylandblue

(12,344 posts)
35. Yeah, I saw that, but I am not worried.
Fri Jan 8, 2021, 01:45 AM
Jan 2021

They tried and failed miserably. Second time around will be much harder. It always is. Can't keep the National Guard away this time, they will be there already with riot gear.

MontanaMama

(23,337 posts)
5. So glad to see people talking about this.
Fri Jan 8, 2021, 12:29 AM
Jan 2021

Biden and Harris have to be sworn in indoors with vetted security. It’s the only way....we do not yet know who can be trusted to keep them safe. I suspect there are tRump humpers that have infiltrated the secret service.

moonscape

(4,673 posts)
9. Biden has chosen a trusted SS agent who protected
Fri Jan 8, 2021, 12:32 AM
Jan 2021

him before as I understand it to be on his detail, or head it up.

Flaleftist

(3,473 posts)
34. Yes, but surely the one in charge of Biden knows the system very well and knows who he can trust.
Fri Jan 8, 2021, 01:38 AM
Jan 2021

But, yes, extreme vigilance is warranted.

sarisataka

(18,770 posts)
8. How do we know
Fri Jan 8, 2021, 12:32 AM
Jan 2021

the Secret Service won't just apprehend Biden at the inauguration and Roberts will administer the oath to Trump?

sarisataka

(18,770 posts)
24. That one was just off the top of my head
Fri Jan 8, 2021, 12:50 AM
Jan 2021

if I think for a while I'm sure I can come up with a doozy

If we continue down this path of Trump is an evil mastermind who has placed loyal agents everywhere it doesn't take much until no scenario is safe. (Strange he is so intelligent as we have talked about about his stupidity for over four years)

SoCal Roomba

(44 posts)
10. This is a disgusting fact, and shows that these folks aren't going away.
Fri Jan 8, 2021, 12:33 AM
Jan 2021

They are going to have to use that intelligence they’ve been ignoring about the insurgent right. Yesterday only emboldened them.

They’ll be back.

napi21

(45,806 posts)
18. I ttrust the Secret Service. They'll keep both Joe & Kamala safe. I'm positive of it. As far as
Fri Jan 8, 2021, 12:36 AM
Jan 2021

the domestic terrorists go, I'm positive there will be enough security personnel around that inauguration, mainly because their reputations are in shambles because of yesterday, nothing or no one will get the opportunity for evil.

 

StarfishSaver

(18,486 posts)
19. This
Fri Jan 8, 2021, 12:38 AM
Jan 2021

I think they'll be falling all over themselves to make sure nothing goes wrong.

They have a lot of cleanup to do.

scarletwoman

(31,893 posts)
27. They succeeded in invading the Capitol building - and so far, most of them got away free.
Fri Jan 8, 2021, 01:06 AM
Jan 2021

Yes, I know some will eventually be identified and charged, but they managed quite a bit of what they set out to do.

Kaleva

(36,343 posts)
38. They had one goal and they failed miserably
Fri Jan 8, 2021, 06:54 AM
Jan 2021

To prevent the counting of the EC votes and certification of Biden.

Bayard

(22,149 posts)
30. I think this should be done in the Oval Office
Fri Jan 8, 2021, 01:12 AM
Jan 2021

I don't like the idea of them being outside at all. Insane snipers scare me more than the cast from Duck Dynasty.

ucrdem

(15,512 posts)
31. I hope they cancel the outdoor swearing-in.
Fri Jan 8, 2021, 01:14 AM
Jan 2021

The Magats were all over the bleachers set up for it and it isn't a good idea for people to gather for ceremonies anyway, indoors or out. They can get sworn in at a more secure location. And they already had to cancel the parade because of Covid.

crickets

(25,983 posts)
36. Agreed.
Fri Jan 8, 2021, 02:11 AM
Jan 2021

I don't know about anyone else, but after what just happened, I don't feel like looking at the Capitol as a backdrop for the occasion. A nice little indoor televised inauguration is a great idea. Under the circumstances, it makes much more sense. There's no need to be getting huge crowds crammed together anyway, and an indoor ceremony would discourage the general public from gathering in large numbers while we're still dealing with a pandemic.

It's a shame the country won't get a big celebration. Joe, Kamala, and all of us certainly deserve one. Maybe there could be a parade and a party or something in a year or so after things turn around.

denbot

(9,901 posts)
39. The Military will hold, Period!
Fri Jan 8, 2021, 07:07 AM
Jan 2021

Bad actors will be rooted out as best as possible, but the military will hold.

eShirl

(18,503 posts)
40. didn't Johnson take the oath on a plane in flight?
Fri Jan 8, 2021, 07:16 AM
Jan 2021

I think I remember a photo of it, with Jackie holding the bible for him to swear on

scarletwoman

(31,893 posts)
41. Yes, but that was because they were flying back to Washington after JFK was killed.
Fri Jan 8, 2021, 07:26 AM
Jan 2021

Quite a different set of circumstances.

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