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If He Pardons Himself, Can He Still Be Impeached? (Original Post) Me. Jan 2021 OP
It's my understanding that EarlG Jan 2021 #1
Excellent Me. Jan 2021 #5
Article 2, Section 2 SunStar Jan 2021 #2
Pardons only work for Federal crimes MiniMe Jan 2021 #3
Impeachment is not a criminal trial relayerbob Jan 2021 #4
He won't be able to pardon himself w/out his precious Twitter Blue Owl Jan 2021 #6
They are irrelevant to each other in both directions. RockRaven Jan 2021 #7
Yes, he can be StarfishSaver Jan 2021 #8
According to Neil Katyall (sp?), he cannot pardon himself Piratedog Jan 2021 #9
Don't see why not Retrograde Jan 2021 #10

EarlG

(21,960 posts)
1. It's my understanding that
Fri Jan 8, 2021, 10:29 PM
Jan 2021

impeachment is the only thing somebody CAN'T be pardoned for.

The President ... shall have Power to grant Reprieves and Pardons for Offenses against the United States, except in Cases of impeachment.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Federal_pardons_in_the_United_States

(That said, the jury is still out on whether a president can pardon himself for anything.)

SunStar

(66 posts)
2. Article 2, Section 2
Fri Jan 8, 2021, 10:31 PM
Jan 2021

"he shall have Power to grant Reprieves and Pardons for Offenses against the United States, except in Cases of Impeachment."

RockRaven

(14,985 posts)
7. They are irrelevant to each other in both directions.
Fri Jan 8, 2021, 10:54 PM
Jan 2021

Pardons cannot be used to forgive, short circuit, or wipe away impeachment.

And impeachments don't cause you to lose the duties/abilities of your office -- until you are convicted and removed. At which point you're not in said office anymore so of course you don't have them.

Retrograde

(10,145 posts)
10. Don't see why not
Fri Jan 8, 2021, 11:37 PM
Jan 2021

IANAL, but the impeachment process is outside of the normal legal system. While I doubt he'll be removed, I want to see him stripped of the right to hold federal offices and of all post-term benefits.

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