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Let's be honest, we all knew it was going to end like this (Original Post) EarlG Jan 2021 OP
Okay, now that is funny. n/t Mister Ed Jan 2021 #1
I was thinking Jim Jones turtleblossom Jan 2021 #2
"Number 45 said to number 3, you're the cutest jailbird I ever did see" Hiawatha Pete Jan 2021 #3
Snort! Yonnie3 Jan 2021 #4
Kick dalton99a Jan 2021 #5
Interesting follow-up......... MyOwnPeace Jan 2021 #6
Lol! herding cats Jan 2021 #7
BWAHAHAHA!!! Kali Jan 2021 #8
LOL c-rational Jan 2021 #9
Not sure if I should laugh or not. triron Jan 2021 #10
That is awesome! RANDYWILDMAN Jan 2021 #11
I am laughing so hard uppityperson Jan 2021 #12
.... BumRushDaShow Jan 2021 #13
I've been saying it for months superpatriotman Jan 2021 #14
Same here. There were signs in his behavior wnylib Jan 2021 #25
Saw it posted on Twitter while watching out for... Lady Freedom Returns Jan 2021 #15
Spot on, EarlG! Hekate Jan 2021 #16
The thing with Trump is it ALWAYS gets worse Renew Deal Jan 2021 #17
No, we haven't. Malcolm Vance wnylib Jan 2021 #27
I've been saying since the #trumpriots that they're going to become the equivalent bullwinkle428 Jan 2021 #32
Yes, I think there will be more wnylib Jan 2021 #33
No, nothing at all like the IRA. Roisin Ni Fiachra Jan 2021 #40
We may well be about to experience another civil war. Totally Tunsie Jan 2021 #36
Well, civil war is what they want. wnylib Jan 2021 #38
Nothing "civil" about it. When they are truly labled terrorists we can use full force ... TigressDem Jan 2021 #41
You do know, don't you, that the wnylib Jan 2021 #43
No. I'm being honest. I HOPED it would end like this. It was not a foregone conclusion. Nitram Jan 2021 #18
I just flashed back to Seinfeld when Kramer BigmanPigman Jan 2021 #19
From the first cries of "rigged election" I think in April 2016 bucolic_frolic Jan 2021 #20
I needed to laugh, thanks. NoMoreRepugs Jan 2021 #21
It really feels like it's headed this way. nt Quixote1818 Jan 2021 #22
You got me! I needed that laugh, badly. Thanks. appalachiablue Jan 2021 #23
Funny. n/t PatrickforO Jan 2021 #24
Yes we did njhoneybadger Jan 2021 #26
not over yet greenman3610 Jan 2021 #28
There is till time BainsBane Jan 2021 #29
Sadly, yes. And that's if we're lucky. onecaliberal Jan 2021 #30
So long as he's only a punchline. marble falls Jan 2021 #31
😂😂😂😂😂 WestIndianArchie Jan 2021 #34
LOL!!!! CatWoman Jan 2021 #35
And, just like OJ, Chump will try to find his answers Totally Tunsie Jan 2021 #37
Cracked me up! Roisin Ni Fiachra Jan 2021 #39
Off to help O.J. find the real killer... Onlyserious Jan 2021 #42
Earl, that sure is an odd looking Bronco. KY_EnviroGuy Jan 2021 #44
lol Demovictory9 Jan 2021 #45
this is funny as hell llashram Jan 2021 #46
I was expecting an exposition on violent demonstrations. BobTheSubgenius Jan 2021 #47
That's funny n/t ornotna Jan 2021 #48
Had to share with my Skype list NotANeocon Jan 2021 #49
Is that Graham hanging off of the back? BHDem53 Jan 2021 #50
This is so funny! sillywabbit Jan 2021 #51

MyOwnPeace

(16,937 posts)
6. Interesting follow-up.........
Fri Jan 8, 2021, 11:06 PM
Jan 2021

OJ did NOT do time for the murder - but they DID get him later!

Hmmmmmm, what do you say, New York - gonna' get him????

wnylib

(21,557 posts)
25. Same here. There were signs in his behavior
Sat Jan 9, 2021, 12:02 AM
Jan 2021

and in the things he said that he would refuse to accept a loss and would resort to violence.

I expected him to stir up street violence as an excuse to declare an emergency and martial law to hold power and then switch immediately to absolutism and dictatorship. That was less likely when the military made it clear they would have no part of it.

Never did it occur to me that he would incite his followers to physically attack a branch of government and threaten their lives, seeking to take hostages in Congress. Or that it would fail so badly that the whole nation (except his zealots) would shut him down and isolate him.

wnylib

(21,557 posts)
27. No, we haven't. Malcolm Vance
Sat Jan 9, 2021, 12:10 AM
Jan 2021

says to expect more threats of violence and things like caravans intimidating people. He says the Trump zealots are hell bent on bringing about a revolution, a civil war, and won't stop until defeated. Therefore, he says it is crucial to investigate, bring charges, and rein in the militias.

bullwinkle428

(20,629 posts)
32. I've been saying since the #trumpriots that they're going to become the equivalent
Sat Jan 9, 2021, 12:30 AM
Jan 2021

of the IRA, and the way they operated in Northern Ireland, and eventually into other parts of the U.K. I suppose you can also bring up the Klan, and think of things like the Birmingham church bombing. This may become their m.o.

wnylib

(21,557 posts)
33. Yes, I think there will be more
Sat Jan 9, 2021, 12:39 AM
Jan 2021

attacks on governments, local and state. They are terrorists, determined to intimidate and attack anyone and anything they oppose.

Roisin Ni Fiachra

(2,574 posts)
40. No, nothing at all like the IRA.
Sat Jan 9, 2021, 10:25 AM
Jan 2021

Who, right or wrong, are still trying to drive English fascists from Ireland, after 1000 years of English occupation, brutal oppression, abuse, rape, murder, and genocide. They are no longer violent, having the understanding that they are more likely to unite the 6 counties with the Republic of Ireland through peaceful democratic means, due to native Irish folks population increasing in the 6 Counties, and the English population decreasing. The fascist DUP's days are numbered.

So the overwhelming majority of native Irish folks don't approve of IRA violence continuing, but all know and understand what the English did to Ireland, and there is still lingering, smoldering resentment. The old IRA was instrumental in eventually driving the English fascists from all but 6 counties in Ireland, during the War for Independence and beyond.

Trump supporters, on the other hand, are nothing but deluded fascist rebels without a clue.

Totally Tunsie

(10,885 posts)
36. We may well be about to experience another civil war.
Sat Jan 9, 2021, 02:55 AM
Jan 2021

Instead of North v. South (Blue v. Gray), it will be the Repigs v. the Dems (Red v. Blue), and it could be just as deadly.

We ae in a very dangerous time.

wnylib

(21,557 posts)
38. Well, civil war is what they want.
Sat Jan 9, 2021, 09:48 AM
Jan 2021

They are celebrating the attack on the Capitol as the opening battle. If they continue, which they likely will, it will be as you said, not a "traditional" war between two opposing armies. It will be a war of terrorists against a government and society that they disapprove of. Our defense will be the FBI, CIA, courts, and guarded sites and locations. The terrorist groups will need to be routed out and defeated.

TigressDem

(5,125 posts)
41. Nothing "civil" about it. When they are truly labled terrorists we can use full force ...
Sat Jan 9, 2021, 11:27 AM
Jan 2021

Right now they are trying to claim "civil disobedience" but they aren't patriots in any real sense. THEY BELIEVE their cause is just because they have BEEN LIED TO REPEATEDLY by the Reich Wing Propaganda machine and tRump and CO.

But any "Patriot" who would attack The Capitol with all those people in it is delusional. We need the full force of the Patriot Act to use the agencies you listed, plus NSA and Homeland Security.

IF Texas (for example) actually secedes, then we would be looking at Civil War as the "states" have some right to demand changes in the way the government is run. But they are STILL going to be forced to work towards change on a procedural level first. AND NO, CHANGING THE RULES in the MIDDLE of the ELECTION is NOT a PROCEDURAL CHANGE.

EACH STATE has Sovereignty of their process, so those states that chose to expand "mail in ballot processes" were within THEIR rights. OTHER STATES trying to OVERTURN their election results is different than the basic challenge to make sure it got done correctly. THAT has been reviewed over and over. "SO MOVE ON and deal with the facts" is what the county is asking them.

BUT HOW CAN THEY when tRump is still claiming he won?

He has to be labeled as delusional and put in a mental ward for the safety of the whole country. AND all the FAKE Media that is spouting these lies needs to be shut down or FINED in the millions for EACH offense, so they STOP or face bankruptcy. THEN and only then will the waterfall of disinformation slow down enough for people to be able to listen to anything else.

ONLY when the flat out truth is able to be stated without INSANITY rebuttals being seen as anything but lies will there be air time enough to explain all the ways each of tRump's thousands of lies have been fact checked and debunked. But with the Reich Wing Radio Network screaming in the background, the truth doesn't stand a chance and neither do we.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Veracity_of_statements_by_Donald_Trump


(Sorry for multiple edits, the BOLD feature hijacked my entire lower post. Fixed)

wnylib

(21,557 posts)
43. You do know, don't you, that the
Sat Jan 9, 2021, 12:14 PM
Jan 2021

term "civil war" refers to internal fighting between people of the same nation, region, or organization? It has nothing to do with the word "civility" or with the term "civil disobedience." It does not have to be between states within the US, or over a state seceding.

For example, when the US invaded Iraq and toppled Saddam's government, Iraqis fell into civil war, largely of Sunni Muslims vs Shi'ite Muslims, but not always so clearly divided.

The Spanish civil war of the 1930s involved ideology as well as regionalism. Left vs right, rural vs urban, monarchists vs people who supported a republic, fascists vs socialists.

The political and ideolgical divide in the US began long before Trump entered politics. Trump represents the things that people on the political right support, from economic conservatism to RW extremism, fascism, and racism. He did not originate those movements and ideologies. He became their leader and spokesperson by appealing to them in his 2016 campaign and representing their interests while in office and during the 2020 campaign.

I have never heard any of the far right groups claim to support civil disobedience. They are much more openly belligerent than that and proudly so with their weapons displayed and their calls for violent revolution.

I fully agree that we need to go after them aggressively and shut down the terrorist militia groups. But in the process, we also need to be careful not to destroy the liberties we are fighting for.



Nitram

(22,845 posts)
18. No. I'm being honest. I HOPED it would end like this. It was not a foregone conclusion.
Fri Jan 8, 2021, 11:31 PM
Jan 2021

2020 hindsight is always perfect.

BigmanPigman

(51,621 posts)
19. I just flashed back to Seinfeld when Kramer
Fri Jan 8, 2021, 11:36 PM
Jan 2021

was driving and the car in front of him was throwing out JFK's expensive golf clubs to slow Kramer down and the clubs were all mangled.

bucolic_frolic

(43,249 posts)
20. From the first cries of "rigged election" I think in April 2016
Fri Jan 8, 2021, 11:38 PM
Jan 2021

I knew there would be a power grab at some point. You could read the personality.

Onlyserious

(103 posts)
42. Off to help O.J. find the real killer...
Sat Jan 9, 2021, 11:36 AM
Jan 2021

It's my understanding, The Donald has a new obsession, helping O.J. find the real killer by searching golf courses around the country, one hole at a time--starting with Florida and then working their way across the country.

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