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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsO'Reilly: "We should not have gone into Iraq"
Stewart: "Somebody better motherfu*king live Tweet that NOW!"
OldDem2012
(3,526 posts)....O'Reilly will probably wake up in the morning and wonder what the heck Stewart's producer slipped in his drink in the Green Room.
SharonAnn
(13,776 posts)LiberalAndProud
(12,799 posts)I hope Jon explains that IT'S A LITTLE LATE FOR THAT SHIT.
bluestateguy
(44,173 posts)From the same asshole who demanded that all opponents of the Iraq war just sit down ans shut up. Who bought hook, line and sinker all the bullshit of Bush, Cheney, Powell and WOlfowitz.
The whole thing was immoral, based on lies and a sheer clusterfuck.
So now O'Riley says a year after we pull out, 4500 dead Americans later, a million Iraq civilians later, "we should not have gone in".
No dice. Too late.
Earth_First
(14,910 posts)I do not mean to make light of the situation, and I believe we're all intelligent enough to understand that.
The delivery, tone and inflection of Stewart's response was spectacular....
UTUSN
(70,708 posts)and said he would apologize "to the nation" (grandiose enough?!1) if there were no WMD found. It took him how long to apologize, like his apologies or anything else from him are worth anything.
Chickenhawk OLOOFAH bamboozling VFW giving him The Erect Loofah award:
Dawson Leery
(19,348 posts)SharonAnn
(13,776 posts)BumRushDaShow
(129,096 posts)spanone
(135,844 posts)JustABozoOnThisBus
(23,350 posts)We rolled into that place in 1991. That's a long war.
LadyHawkAZ
(6,199 posts)i.e. people who spout hate talk on programs without even believing what they say, because it pays well! HE JUST DOGGED ON HIMSELF!!
Who put the Valium in BillO's water bottle????
and-justice-for-all
(14,765 posts)I am quite sure he was a cheerleader for it.
DMCCC
(6 posts)Saddam Hussein violated the 1991 ceasefire agreement by refusing to cooperate with UN weapons inspectors, harbored and financially supported terrorists, fired at American aircraft enforcing the no-fly zones on a daily basis and used chemical weapons against his own people.
Toppling his regime was the right thing to do.
Indpndnt
(2,391 posts)But they had oil, so....
LiberalAndProud
(12,799 posts)Invading Iraq was not the right thing to do.
quinnox
(20,600 posts)after a decade, and you still haven't.
RoccoR5955
(12,471 posts)I do not believe that what you are saying is true, so if you could please afford me with some reliable links to this, it would be appreciated. Otherwise, I will presume that you are merely parroting Fox "News" and other outlets of right wing propaganda.
DMCCC
(6 posts)18 Feb 2001 - Iraq says it's still shooting at U.S., British planes
http://articles.cnn.com/2001-02-18/world/iraq.sanctions.02_1_british-planes-iraqi-military-spokesman-france-and-turkey?_s=PM:WORLD
28 Aug 2001 - Iraq celebrates 'downing' US plane
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/1511540.stm
11 Sep 2001 - Iraq claims to shoot down U.S. spy plane
http://usatoday30.usatoday.com/news/world/2001/09/11/iraq.htm
23 Dec 2002 - U.S. drone shot down over southern Iraq
http://articles.cnn.com/2002-12-23/world/drone_1_drone-reconnaissance-hostile-fire?_s=PM:WORLD
RoccoR5955
(12,471 posts)Perhaps the Iraqis did not want the US enforcing the zones because it violated their sovereignty? Just sayin' that there is more than one side to an issue.
LiberalAndProud
(12,799 posts)Why do you think he cooked the books over yellow cake and cartoon missile labs? Because Iraq was shooting down drones? Four reports over the course of two years?
GMAFB
DMCCC
(6 posts)Clinton really laid the foundation for the 2nd Gulf War when he signed the Iraq Liberation Act on 31 Oct 1998 (which was cited by Bush in 2002 as justification for invasion) and then launched a bombing campaign against Iraq in Dec 1998.
16 Dec 1998 - http://www.pbs.org/newshour/bb/middle_east/july-dec98/clinton_12-16.html
PRESIDENT CLINTON: Good evening.
Earlier today, I ordered America's armed forces to strike military and security targets in Iraq. They are joined by British forces. Their mission is to attack Iraq's nuclear, chemical and biological weapons programs and its military capacity to threaten its neighbors.
Their purpose is to protect the national interest of the United States, and indeed the interests of people throughout the Middle East and around the world.
Saddam Hussein must not be allowed to threaten his neighbors or the world with nuclear arms, poison gas or biological weapons.
I want to explain why I have decided, with the unanimous recommendation of my national security team, to use force in Iraq; why we have acted now; and what we aim to accomplish.
Six weeks ago, Saddam Hussein announced that he would no longer cooperate with the United Nations weapons inspectors called UNSCOM. They are highly professional experts from dozens of countries. Their job is to oversee the elimination of Iraq's capability to retain, create and use weapons of mass destruction, and to verify that Iraq does not attempt to rebuild that capability. The inspectors undertook this mission first 7 1/2 years ago at the end of the Gulf War when Iraq agreed to declare and destroy its arsenal as a condition of the ceasefire.
The international community had good reason to set this requirement. Other countries possess weapons of mass destruction and ballistic missiles. With Saddam, there is one big difference: He has used them. Not once, but repeatedly. Unleashing chemical weapons against Iranian troops during a decade-long war. Not only against soldiers, but against civilians, firing Scud missiles at the citizens of Israel, Saudi Arabia, Bahrain and Iran. And not only against a foreign enemy, but even against his own people, gassing Kurdish civilians in Northern Iraq.
The international community had little doubt then, and I have no doubt today, that left unchecked, Saddam Hussein will use these terrible weapons again.
LiberalAndProud
(12,799 posts)Iraq had nothing to do with it. It is not by accident that a good number of our citizens still think he did. It was a Bush/Cheney/Rumsfeld campaign to attack Iraq. They wanted a Pearl Harbor and they got one. (see PNAC) They needed an excuse so they manufactured one. You won't convince me otherwise. Ever. Unlike Bill, who took the best part of a decade to figure it out, I knew it on the day we invaded and I know it now.
JustAnotherGen
(31,828 posts)Were poisoned in the 1980's under YOUR Saint Ronnie's watch. That said - can we invade Turkey for the Armenian Genocide now? Since old genocides are a viable reason from your point of view?
If you want to come in here and spout Neocon Nonsense with your three posts - go right (get it ?) ahead. But take the Kurds off the table. Too little to late and your Saint Ronnie and Bush 1 should have done something when Galbraith rang the bell then.
And there were no WMD in Iraq.
And I didn't vote for Bush - you probably did twice. If you are so supportive of that stupidity called Iraq then voluntarily pay more taxes to pay for YOUR folly.
Turkey does not pose a significant threat. Iraq was a rogue state which had a massive stockpile of chemical/biological weapons, could have potentially developed nuclear weapons and was working on long-range ballistic missiles.
WinkyDink
(51,311 posts)ASTOUNDING.
Selatius
(20,441 posts)Bush-Cheney knew full well they couldn't get the American people to support a major war unless there was an illusion of an imminent threat.
A hostile nation with an atomic weapons program would be considered an existential threat. That, you can sell to the people to convince them to go to war.
WinkyDink
(51,311 posts)crapola that we were "concerned" about the Kurds! Bwahahah!
BTW: Kuwait, with the help of the British, WAS slant-drilling into Iraq's oil-fields, ca. 1981.
The NFZ prevented Iraq from using its air force against the Kurdish population.
I question that Iraq even had territorial sovereignty over the northern NFZ near Turkey. They didn't control the area, the Kurds did. The Iraqi government in no way represented these people, indeed it had tried to kill as many of them as possible in the past. So why should it have been considered Iraqi territory?
JustAnotherGen
(31,828 posts)Johnson? Romney? I hate tea on a Sunday morning? And I hate liars too.
Mz Pip
(27,451 posts)and is continuing to cost us in the aftermath. The price tag was just too damn high.
Jennicut
(25,415 posts)Even Billo gets what a waste of time "regime change" was.
tama
(9,137 posts)a war of aggression against UN charter. And the embargo was also a crime against humanity.
The real motive of the war was oil and dollar empire.
WinkyDink
(51,311 posts)Are you COMPLETELY UNAWARE that Rumsfeld SHOOK SADDAM'S HAND when he was killing "his own people" (Kurds), and that WE SUPPORTED HIM?
http://www.commondreams.org/views02/0802-01.htm
Are you COMPLETELY UNAWARE that "toppling a regime" that is not a belligerent is a WAR CRIME?
raccoon
(31,111 posts)lumberjack_jeff
(33,224 posts)pinboy3niner
(53,339 posts)quinnox
(20,600 posts)it takes some folks a stretch of time to see the truth.
Indpndnt
(2,391 posts)Incitatus
(5,317 posts)Kalidurga
(14,177 posts)Arugula Latte
(50,566 posts)DearHeart
(692 posts)of the 4486 service men/women who died in Iraq! Not to mention the thousands of wounded; service members from all the "coalition" countries, the US and the thousands of Iraquis who were killed or maimed!!
All I can think of now are all of those poor children, wives, mothers, fathers, sisters, brothers, etc., who lost a loved one!
"We should not have gone into Iraq"? No, he should have said, "I should not have brought out my pom-poms and cheered Bush & Co. on...I'm sorry!!"
Sorry, I know that absolutely none of this will ever happen...Hell must've frozen over with what he actually did say.
Berlum
(7,044 posts)O'Bile-ly: "Well, as long as I am indulging the truth for a few nanoseconds here, let me etch-a-sketch myself on 9/11 and it's ongoing global ramifications. Here's the deal: LIHOP for sure, maybe MIHOP. I mean, dudes, it is totally hard to wrap one's cerebellum around the level of Republican FAIL on that particular horror. Sheesh. Let's get real."
WinkyDink
(51,311 posts)WinkyDink
(51,311 posts)mentally-challenged RUBES and GULLS still post propaganda!!
IT'S LIKE THEY HAVEN'T READ ANYTHING IN A DECADE.
MzShellG
(1,047 posts)Can we say I told you so? Billions if not trillions of American tax dollars wasted and an inspeakable amount on lives lost and finally your ego allows you to admit that it was wrong. How noble of you. (sarcasm).
Hydra
(14,459 posts)Decades later, after the full disaster is wrought.
Still, hell freezing over moment, as pointed out further up.