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O'Reilly: "We should not have gone into Iraq" (Original Post) Earth_First Oct 2012 OP
The Aztecs were right!! It's a sign of the Apocalypse!!.... OldDem2012 Oct 2012 #1
The Mayans, maybe? SharonAnn Oct 2012 #10
Well, knock me over with a feather. LiberalAndProud Oct 2012 #2
Gee that does a lot of good now bluestateguy Oct 2012 #3
You are absolutely correct. Earth_First Oct 2012 #4
Yip, that jerk-ass was on GMA the day or before the Illegal Attack and cheer led it UTUSN Oct 2012 #7
Remeber his interview with Jeremy Glick? Dawson Leery Oct 2012 #9
Yes, that's when I stopped watching him. I used to watch, occasionally. Not after that. SharonAnn Oct 2012 #11
Oh my. BumRushDaShow Oct 2012 #5
9 years late billy boy spanone Oct 2012 #6
Maybe more than nine years JustABozoOnThisBus Oct 2012 #48
And now he's dogging on hate programs!!! LadyHawkAZ Oct 2012 #8
Really??? and-justice-for-all Oct 2012 #12
Bill O is an idiot DMCCC Oct 2012 #13
Not when we had to lie about WMDs to do it. Iraq had nothing to do with 9/11, either. Indpndnt Oct 2012 #16
He did not refuse to cooperate with UN weapons inspectors. LiberalAndProud Oct 2012 #19
it must suck to realize a bozo like O'Reilly has come to the truth quinnox Oct 2012 #21
Please cite your proof of this. RoccoR5955 Oct 2012 #23
Iraq was shooting at our aircraft DMCCC Oct 2012 #27
Mostly drones flying over their sovergn airspace RoccoR5955 Oct 2012 #28
That wasn't enough to justify the invasion and Bush knew it. LiberalAndProud Oct 2012 #30
Bush or Clinton? DMCCC Oct 2012 #31
If that were the case, Sadam would never have been linked to the 9/11 attack. LiberalAndProud Oct 2012 #32
The Kurds JustAnotherGen Oct 2012 #34
no DMCCC Oct 2012 #36
Complete, utter, and revealed to be a massive lie. How anyone can still spout this propaganda is WinkyDink Oct 2012 #38
I'm sorry, but Bush justified war on the idea that Saddam had WEAPONS OF MASS DESTRUCTION. Selatius Oct 2012 #39
Why don't you ask yourself: "Why were we flying over Iraqi air-space?" PLEASE don't give us the WinkyDink Oct 2012 #43
no fly zone DMCCC Oct 2012 #45
Who are you voting for in November? JustAnotherGen Oct 2012 #46
Not at what it cost us Mz Pip Oct 2012 #25
So sad you hero "died" to you tonight. Jennicut Oct 2012 #26
It was a war crime tama Oct 2012 #35
Are you COMPLETELY UNAWARE of HANS BLIX?! WinkyDink Oct 2012 #37
Did you join up to go help topple his regime? I doubt it! nt raccoon Oct 2012 #41
I guess he has Mitt's etch a sketch on loan. n/t lumberjack_jeff Oct 2012 #14
Breaking: O'Reilly breaks his record, grasps obvious after only 9 years! pinboy3niner Oct 2012 #15
better late than never I guess quinnox Oct 2012 #17
Holy crap! Indpndnt Oct 2012 #18
Is there a Republican conspiracy to put The Onion out of business? Incitatus Oct 2012 #20
I think there must be...nt Kalidurga Oct 2012 #29
Too bad about those tens of thousands of innocent people we needlessly slaughtered. Arugula Latte Oct 2012 #22
O'Reilly should have to say that personally to every family DearHeart Oct 2012 #24
O'Bile-ly: "Bush & Republican Cronies really screwed up on 9/11" Berlum Oct 2012 #33
For those of us who refuse to watch Billo, the quotation marks are misleading. WinkyDink Oct 2012 #42
WTH are these insane Republicans posting here?? EVEN WHEN THEIR RIGHT-WING HEROES speak TRUE, these WinkyDink Oct 2012 #40
Oh really O'Reilly??!!??!!! MzShellG Oct 2012 #44
I bet we'll have people like him saying the same thing after Iran Hydra Oct 2012 #47

OldDem2012

(3,526 posts)
1. The Aztecs were right!! It's a sign of the Apocalypse!!....
Sat Oct 6, 2012, 09:04 PM
Oct 2012

....O'Reilly will probably wake up in the morning and wonder what the heck Stewart's producer slipped in his drink in the Green Room.

bluestateguy

(44,173 posts)
3. Gee that does a lot of good now
Sat Oct 6, 2012, 09:09 PM
Oct 2012

From the same asshole who demanded that all opponents of the Iraq war just sit down ans shut up. Who bought hook, line and sinker all the bullshit of Bush, Cheney, Powell and WOlfowitz.

The whole thing was immoral, based on lies and a sheer clusterfuck.

So now O'Riley says a year after we pull out, 4500 dead Americans later, a million Iraq civilians later, "we should not have gone in".

No dice. Too late.

Earth_First

(14,910 posts)
4. You are absolutely correct.
Sat Oct 6, 2012, 09:11 PM
Oct 2012

I do not mean to make light of the situation, and I believe we're all intelligent enough to understand that.

The delivery, tone and inflection of Stewart's response was spectacular....

UTUSN

(70,708 posts)
7. Yip, that jerk-ass was on GMA the day or before the Illegal Attack and cheer led it
Sat Oct 6, 2012, 09:17 PM
Oct 2012

and said he would apologize "to the nation" (grandiose enough?!1) if there were no WMD found. It took him how long to apologize, like his apologies or anything else from him are worth anything.

Chickenhawk O’LOOFAH bamboozling VFW giving him The Erect Loofah award:

LadyHawkAZ

(6,199 posts)
8. And now he's dogging on hate programs!!!
Sat Oct 6, 2012, 09:24 PM
Oct 2012

i.e. people who spout hate talk on programs without even believing what they say, because it pays well! HE JUST DOGGED ON HIMSELF!!

Who put the Valium in BillO's water bottle????

 

DMCCC

(6 posts)
13. Bill O is an idiot
Sun Oct 7, 2012, 12:25 AM
Oct 2012

Saddam Hussein violated the 1991 ceasefire agreement by refusing to cooperate with UN weapons inspectors, harbored and financially supported terrorists, fired at American aircraft enforcing the no-fly zones on a daily basis and used chemical weapons against his own people.

Toppling his regime was the right thing to do.

Indpndnt

(2,391 posts)
16. Not when we had to lie about WMDs to do it. Iraq had nothing to do with 9/11, either.
Sun Oct 7, 2012, 12:32 AM
Oct 2012

But they had oil, so....

 

quinnox

(20,600 posts)
21. it must suck to realize a bozo like O'Reilly has come to the truth
Sun Oct 7, 2012, 12:37 AM
Oct 2012

after a decade, and you still haven't.

 

RoccoR5955

(12,471 posts)
23. Please cite your proof of this.
Sun Oct 7, 2012, 12:56 AM
Oct 2012

I do not believe that what you are saying is true, so if you could please afford me with some reliable links to this, it would be appreciated. Otherwise, I will presume that you are merely parroting Fox "News" and other outlets of right wing propaganda.

 

RoccoR5955

(12,471 posts)
28. Mostly drones flying over their sovergn airspace
Sun Oct 7, 2012, 01:35 AM
Oct 2012

Perhaps the Iraqis did not want the US enforcing the zones because it violated their sovereignty? Just sayin' that there is more than one side to an issue.

LiberalAndProud

(12,799 posts)
30. That wasn't enough to justify the invasion and Bush knew it.
Sun Oct 7, 2012, 01:38 AM
Oct 2012

Why do you think he cooked the books over yellow cake and cartoon missile labs? Because Iraq was shooting down drones? Four reports over the course of two years?

GMAFB

 

DMCCC

(6 posts)
31. Bush or Clinton?
Sun Oct 7, 2012, 02:15 AM
Oct 2012

Clinton really laid the foundation for the 2nd Gulf War when he signed the Iraq Liberation Act on 31 Oct 1998 (which was cited by Bush in 2002 as justification for invasion) and then launched a bombing campaign against Iraq in Dec 1998.

16 Dec 1998 - http://www.pbs.org/newshour/bb/middle_east/july-dec98/clinton_12-16.html

PRESIDENT CLINTON: Good evening.

Earlier today, I ordered America's armed forces to strike military and security targets in Iraq. They are joined by British forces. Their mission is to attack Iraq's nuclear, chemical and biological weapons programs and its military capacity to threaten its neighbors.

Their purpose is to protect the national interest of the United States, and indeed the interests of people throughout the Middle East and around the world.

Saddam Hussein must not be allowed to threaten his neighbors or the world with nuclear arms, poison gas or biological weapons.

I want to explain why I have decided, with the unanimous recommendation of my national security team, to use force in Iraq; why we have acted now; and what we aim to accomplish.

Six weeks ago, Saddam Hussein announced that he would no longer cooperate with the United Nations weapons inspectors called UNSCOM. They are highly professional experts from dozens of countries. Their job is to oversee the elimination of Iraq's capability to retain, create and use weapons of mass destruction, and to verify that Iraq does not attempt to rebuild that capability. The inspectors undertook this mission first 7 1/2 years ago at the end of the Gulf War when Iraq agreed to declare and destroy its arsenal as a condition of the ceasefire.

The international community had good reason to set this requirement. Other countries possess weapons of mass destruction and ballistic missiles. With Saddam, there is one big difference: He has used them. Not once, but repeatedly. Unleashing chemical weapons against Iranian troops during a decade-long war. Not only against soldiers, but against civilians, firing Scud missiles at the citizens of Israel, Saudi Arabia, Bahrain and Iran. And not only against a foreign enemy, but even against his own people, gassing Kurdish civilians in Northern Iraq.

The international community had little doubt then, and I have no doubt today, that left unchecked, Saddam Hussein will use these terrible weapons again.

LiberalAndProud

(12,799 posts)
32. If that were the case, Sadam would never have been linked to the 9/11 attack.
Sun Oct 7, 2012, 02:23 AM
Oct 2012

Iraq had nothing to do with it. It is not by accident that a good number of our citizens still think he did. It was a Bush/Cheney/Rumsfeld campaign to attack Iraq. They wanted a Pearl Harbor and they got one. (see PNAC) They needed an excuse so they manufactured one. You won't convince me otherwise. Ever. Unlike Bill, who took the best part of a decade to figure it out, I knew it on the day we invaded and I know it now.

JustAnotherGen

(31,828 posts)
34. The Kurds
Sun Oct 7, 2012, 06:47 AM
Oct 2012

Were poisoned in the 1980's under YOUR Saint Ronnie's watch. That said - can we invade Turkey for the Armenian Genocide now? Since old genocides are a viable reason from your point of view?

If you want to come in here and spout Neocon Nonsense with your three posts - go right (get it ?) ahead. But take the Kurds off the table. Too little to late and your Saint Ronnie and Bush 1 should have done something when Galbraith rang the bell then.

And there were no WMD in Iraq.

And I didn't vote for Bush - you probably did twice. If you are so supportive of that stupidity called Iraq then voluntarily pay more taxes to pay for YOUR folly.

 

DMCCC

(6 posts)
36. no
Sun Oct 7, 2012, 07:33 AM
Oct 2012

Turkey does not pose a significant threat. Iraq was a rogue state which had a massive stockpile of chemical/biological weapons, could have potentially developed nuclear weapons and was working on long-range ballistic missiles.

 

WinkyDink

(51,311 posts)
38. Complete, utter, and revealed to be a massive lie. How anyone can still spout this propaganda is
Sun Oct 7, 2012, 07:50 AM
Oct 2012

ASTOUNDING.

Selatius

(20,441 posts)
39. I'm sorry, but Bush justified war on the idea that Saddam had WEAPONS OF MASS DESTRUCTION.
Sun Oct 7, 2012, 07:52 AM
Oct 2012

Bush-Cheney knew full well they couldn't get the American people to support a major war unless there was an illusion of an imminent threat.

A hostile nation with an atomic weapons program would be considered an existential threat. That, you can sell to the people to convince them to go to war.

 

WinkyDink

(51,311 posts)
43. Why don't you ask yourself: "Why were we flying over Iraqi air-space?" PLEASE don't give us the
Sun Oct 7, 2012, 07:59 AM
Oct 2012

crapola that we were "concerned" about the Kurds! Bwahahah!

BTW: Kuwait, with the help of the British, WAS slant-drilling into Iraq's oil-fields, ca. 1981.

 

DMCCC

(6 posts)
45. no fly zone
Sun Oct 7, 2012, 08:23 AM
Oct 2012

The NFZ prevented Iraq from using its air force against the Kurdish population.

I question that Iraq even had territorial sovereignty over the northern NFZ near Turkey. They didn't control the area, the Kurds did. The Iraqi government in no way represented these people, indeed it had tried to kill as many of them as possible in the past. So why should it have been considered Iraqi territory?

JustAnotherGen

(31,828 posts)
46. Who are you voting for in November?
Sun Oct 7, 2012, 10:12 AM
Oct 2012

Johnson? Romney? I hate tea on a Sunday morning? And I hate liars too.

Mz Pip

(27,451 posts)
25. Not at what it cost us
Sun Oct 7, 2012, 01:04 AM
Oct 2012

and is continuing to cost us in the aftermath. The price tag was just too damn high.

 

tama

(9,137 posts)
35. It was a war crime
Sun Oct 7, 2012, 07:06 AM
Oct 2012

a war of aggression against UN charter. And the embargo was also a crime against humanity.

The real motive of the war was oil and dollar empire.

 

WinkyDink

(51,311 posts)
37. Are you COMPLETELY UNAWARE of HANS BLIX?!
Sun Oct 7, 2012, 07:48 AM
Oct 2012
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,70575,00.html

Are you COMPLETELY UNAWARE that Rumsfeld SHOOK SADDAM'S HAND when he was killing "his own people" (Kurds), and that WE SUPPORTED HIM?

http://www.commondreams.org/views02/0802-01.htm

Are you COMPLETELY UNAWARE that "toppling a regime" that is not a belligerent is a WAR CRIME?

DearHeart

(692 posts)
24. O'Reilly should have to say that personally to every family
Sun Oct 7, 2012, 12:59 AM
Oct 2012

of the 4486 service men/women who died in Iraq! Not to mention the thousands of wounded; service members from all the "coalition" countries, the US and the thousands of Iraquis who were killed or maimed!!

All I can think of now are all of those poor children, wives, mothers, fathers, sisters, brothers, etc., who lost a loved one!

"We should not have gone into Iraq"? No, he should have said, "I should not have brought out my pom-poms and cheered Bush & Co. on...I'm sorry!!"

Sorry, I know that absolutely none of this will ever happen...Hell must've frozen over with what he actually did say.

Berlum

(7,044 posts)
33. O'Bile-ly: "Bush & Republican Cronies really screwed up on 9/11"
Sun Oct 7, 2012, 06:19 AM
Oct 2012

O'Bile-ly: "Well, as long as I am indulging the truth for a few nanoseconds here, let me etch-a-sketch myself on 9/11 and it's ongoing global ramifications. Here's the deal: LIHOP for sure, maybe MIHOP. I mean, dudes, it is totally hard to wrap one's cerebellum around the level of Republican FAIL on that particular horror. Sheesh. Let's get real."

 

WinkyDink

(51,311 posts)
40. WTH are these insane Republicans posting here?? EVEN WHEN THEIR RIGHT-WING HEROES speak TRUE, these
Sun Oct 7, 2012, 07:53 AM
Oct 2012

mentally-challenged RUBES and GULLS still post propaganda!!

IT'S LIKE THEY HAVEN'T READ ANYTHING IN A DECADE.

MzShellG

(1,047 posts)
44. Oh really O'Reilly??!!??!!!
Sun Oct 7, 2012, 08:05 AM
Oct 2012

Can we say I told you so? Billions if not trillions of American tax dollars wasted and an inspeakable amount on lives lost and finally your ego allows you to admit that it was wrong. How noble of you. (sarcasm).

Hydra

(14,459 posts)
47. I bet we'll have people like him saying the same thing after Iran
Sun Oct 7, 2012, 11:43 AM
Oct 2012

Decades later, after the full disaster is wrought.

Still, hell freezing over moment, as pointed out further up.

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