It looks like most of the gains we made after the Democratic convention have been erased

[still_one]

[JaneyVee]

1. Yet, still with a commanding electoral college lead.

[DURHAM D]

2. unrec

[FLyellowdog]

3. Unrec.

[regnaD kciN]

4. For the moment...

Recent hints from Ipsos & PPP suggest the Romney debate bounce has already started to subside.

[dkf]

7. I don't know what either of you are looking at.

There doesn't seem to be much polling data from what I saw. At least not much from pollsters I give credence to, eg non-Rasmussen.

[DonViejo]

9. You need to look at some posts made earlier this evening and today,

there is good polling from Reuters, Gallup, Ipsos. Nate Silver maintains the President with high poll numbers

[dkf]

11. Hmm must not be too positive or it would have come to my attention.

And been posted umpteen times.

[DonViejo]

16. Hmmm. I think you're not looking for positive. Try this

post, it's listed third from the top in the Breaking News section:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/1014258238

[dkf]

22. Well no wonder I'm not noticing it. Why don't people just post the doggone top line number?

I'm sorry but the whole "likable" election doesn't grab me.

[renie408]

35. Yea, it's nice to be Miss Congeniality, it's better to be Miss America.

[still_one]

15. I hope so

[blue neen]

5. Have to disagree.

I've gained five pounds since then that I just can't get rid of.

[Rowdyboy]

6. Unrec for inaccuracy

[still_one]

17. I don't mind the unrec, however, the ppp polling listed in other threads indicate what I was

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inferring

[Rowdyboy]

21. Like an unrec means anything anymore....Still, I think you overrate the impact of the debate

It'll all come out in the wash once the campaign runs its course.

[still_one]

23. unrec means something, it means some folks disapprove for one reason or another ones post. For the

second point, that is what I was thinking, until I saw a post here from PPP which said that Wisconsin went from double digit lead for Obama to up 2 points, and they attributed that to the debate, which bothered me

[Rowdyboy]

24. Meh, its a message board that no one serious pays any real attention to....

I don't like todays polls either but Obamas underlying structure is too strong and Romney's is too weak for it to matter much in the long run.

My disapproval was pretty mild overall. I'm just tired of negativism. It'll be better soon.

[still_one]

30. so will I /nt

[msongs]

27. ah the good old days DU said Obama would smash Romney in the debate and

wrap the election the next day lol

[FSogol]

8. Oh BS.

[gkhouston]

10. Get back to us on that in a week. n/t

[still_one]

18. I know Biden will do well so you might be right

[OldDem2012]

12. Oh? By whom? Try again. Unrec. nt.

[GoneOffShore]

13. thanks for your concern.

And why do most of the posters who post this sort of bullshit hang out in the Gungeon?

Can anyone explain that?

High post count and a drive by.

[still_one]

20. What does high post count have to do with it? I am reading other ppp

Polls in threads on du and it seems like there was an impact

If you are trying to associate my post count as an insult that used to be against forum rules

[quinnox]

14. It would have been nice to see some back up

in the OP for your position. What prompted this, are there new polls or something that show Romney gained? A little explanation would have been nice.

[still_one]

19. The PPP polls being quoted in other threads. Wisconsin

Went from double digit lead to 2 points up. That is awful, unless they screwed up the polling

[Denzil_DC]

25. "That is awful, unless they screwed up the polling"

Then since you obviously don't know, and Nate Silver's been widely reported as saying that things are unlikely to settle down and give a clear picture till maybe midweek, if then, why post all this nonsense at the moment?

It's not as if anybody can do anything about it at the moment if your OP is correct, and if it's incorrect, it's just FUD.

There must be other ways to pass the time.

[Cha]

26. It's done so I can

Trash another thread from the "Game Over, Man" crowd..

[jsmirman]

32. Dude, could you ease up with the Game Over bullshit?

I don't really fight much anymore, and back then I rarely was wounded, but experience says that when wounded, I fight like a wounded animal.

I am many things, but a quitter isn't one of them.

I just like my breakfast served with a healthy dash of reality.

And a real fighter always has a cold-eyed assessment of the score.

[Cha]

33. Your "reality" is not everyone's reality..

By Friday morning, the counterargument that Obama had actually won on substance had taken root, with online sentiment now favoring the president:





http://www.democraticunderground.com/10021487341

http://nbcpolitics.nbcnews.com/_news/2012/10/05/14244918-social-media-analysis-who-really-won-the-debate

And, yeah, it's not Game Over.. We Are Still Moving Forward

Btw, jsmirman..thanks for all your work on Voter Registration!

[jsmirman]

34. You're welcome

but I really feel like even Democrats are admitting it didn't go well. I mean, you can even see that context in Murray's fundraising letter.

The polls - as much as I know and believe they can be turned back around - simply are not showing an Obama debate win from the first debate. Whether we like them or not, they are the best presently available reflection on reality. People like Nate Silver do not deal in emotion, bullshit, or pixie dust.

This isn't fatal. It still sucked.

[renie408]

36. That analogy might work better if the Aliens hadn't killed Bill Paxton.

It's hard to call that a 'win' after the Aliens ultimately kill everybody except Ripley and they still manage to turn her into an alien incubator.

[cherokeeprogressive]

28. Given the current atmosphere here, this post probably caused a few things to happen instantly...

Your posting history is now being researched as intensely as global climate change.

Google searches are being done using your screen name and all of its possible variations to see if you're posting on RW sites.

PMs are being traded and your screen name is now on hundreds of lists and the word "troll" is being used in more than a few of those PMs.

Bad move.

[quinnox]

29. lol

And what makes it funnier is it may very well be true, the way things have been going here lately...

[still_one]

31. I am flattered if that was true, however, they won't find anything except here on DU, and it will be

quite boring

[Donkees]

37. Mitt surrendered to his demons and surrendered his positions

[lunatica]

38. No it doesn't

But it sure seems it's important to you to trash President Obama.