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Arieh Kovler
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On January 6, armed Trumpist militias will be rallying in DC, at Trump's orders. It's highly likely that they'll try to storm the Capitol after it certifies Joe Biden's win. I don't think this has sunk in yet.
6:43 AM · Dec 21, 2020
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On January 6, armed Trumpist militias will be rallying in DC, at Trump's orders. It's highly likely that they'll try to storm the Capitol after it certifies Joe Biden's win. I don't think this has sunk in yet.
These people are angry at the Democrats. They're angry at the GOP for not suspending democracy. They hate the media, and many consider police to be the enemy even as they fly the "blue lives" flag instead of the Stars and Stripes. Image
They are convinced that Congress will, somehow, declare Trump the winner on Jan 6. Maybe Pence will just refuse to count the Electoral Votes from states Biden won? Or the Senate will throw those votes out? Or Justice Thomas? Alternatively...
...some think Trump will win because *they* will ensure it. Maybe by forcing Congress to certify him as the winner at gunpoint. Maybe as backup forces to Trump's supposed military coup.
When Congress certifies Biden, these people will be shocked. Their worlds will collapse. And it'll happen while they're (illegally) armed and gathered in DC. It's the nitroglycerine of explosive mixtures.
The Capitol Police has 2200 officers, but I'm guessing they mostly aren't riot trained or SWAT types. The question here is if federal forces will be *allowed* to help them.
To be clear here, I don't think the 3%ers, Proud Boys, Oathkeepers or boogaloo types are going to seize the Capitol. But some of them are going try. And people will die.
How will US Conservatives react? Well, they made Kyle Rittenhouse into a hero. They ignored the Whitmer kidnap plot, except as a way of calling for more violence against her.
I note that @Robertwaldeck reckons I'm completely wrong here and that DC forces including the Capitol Police, DC police and Nat Guard, which he knows well, will be able to keep things completely under control.
@mentions More than a year back, I wondered if Trump would be the first President to be impeached twice. Tonight, members of Congress are seriously considering it.
kwolf68
(7,365 posts)Very interesting stuff. This dude nailed it.
ProfessorGAC
(65,134 posts)An actual Nostradamus.
Eerily accurate.
Initech
(100,097 posts)In fact I even called it after the election. But I just assumed it would be the morons dressed like Ninja Turtles playing make believe fighting with their fake plastic weapons like we've seen at previous rallies.
I had no idea that it would be on the magnitude that we saw last week. And I have a bad feeling about next week.
DemoTex
(25,400 posts)Dogs and cats knew. It was out there. Anyone paying attention should have experienced increasing existential dread as January 6 approached.
onecaliberal
(32,882 posts)This is wow. No wonder they thought they were going to overthrow the government. They have a lot of people on the inside.
bucolic_frolic
(43,250 posts)2016 was decided before "Russia if you're listening ....". Rigged. He told you.
Beringia
(4,316 posts)The Man Who Saw Yesterdays Coup Attempt Coming Is Only Surprised It Wasnt Much Worse
It was not the army I expected it to be.
By Cam Wolf
What you wrote on Twitter so precisely predicted what happened yesterday. What were you seeing that led you to these beliefs?
We first encountered Trumpism bubbling up through the Chans4Chan, 8Chan, 2Chanand Reddit. In around 2015 it emerged into an essentially performative act. The original Trump fans online were people who didn't believe in Trump particularly, but they thought he was really funny. They essentially convinced themselves into believing their own joke.
Obviously by the time he was the nominee, things were different, because he had much wider support. Originally, it was on the Chans, which became a haven for the far rightwhat would become in modern parlance the alt right. And also Redditthe most popular subreddit for Trump supporters was called r/TheDonald, which was banned. For a time it was quite important, and then it became less important, and then it was finally banned and the people behind it went and set up their own version of it at TheDonald.win, which is one of the major Trumpist forums online.
You can see that, basically, the day Trump put out his call saying big rally in Washington on the 6th, the die was cast. I'm sure that there were going to be people coming on the 6th anyway but once Trump said be there, they interpreted that as a call to action, as their marching orders. Trump supporters thought they would come and would be called on to do something.
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From what you're seeing, is there a chance that something like yesterday, happens again in the next couple of weeks, leading up to or even on Inauguration Day?
I don't think so. First, the inauguration is done with the Secret Service and the FBI. It's a different ballgame. I think the next couple of days, statehouses need to watch out. That's where I would be looking at. I don't think there's going to be another thing in D.C.
MagickMuffin
(15,950 posts)hopefully they will be rounded up if they do!