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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsWhile we were freaking about the debate, something made it into the psyche
of the "low information voter". Granted, this is anecdotal but I shall now tell you the story of "Terri goes shopping". So, yesterday, with the larder bare and with me being on the hook for Sunday dinner, I decided I needed to go grocery shopping. I removed myself, with some difficulty, from the Sturm and Drang of DU, packed up my reuseable bags and off I went. While at an unnamed multi use grocery store, I heard a couple of college age kids complaining about the adult costumes. Feeling friendly, I butted in and asked what they were looking for. They were looking for Big Bird and they want to use Halloween as a moment of protest against Romney's stated intention of getting rid of PBS. They were mad because Romney is trying to take away Sesame Street! One of them said, "We grew up on that! That is not okay!". LOL
So, after I finished shopping, I went to the thrift store across the street. Now, normally from about Oct 1st to Nov 1st, I don't go there. I hate the way it turns into Halloween central. Otherwise, I am a thrift shopper extraordinaire. I don't think a single person in my family has bought new in well, forever. Why did I go today? Because of those college kids. I figured that they would have Big Bird costumes and now I'm feeling like it would be mighty fine to turn Halloween into an educational moment for voters. I have this idea that I would carry a sign that said, "Big Bird is brought to you by the numbers 4 and 7 and %. I figure people would ask and I could give a quick tutorial. Unfortunately, I couldn't find one, so I asked one of the fairly beleaguered clerks (Halloween must suck for them) and he said, "No, no Big Bird. What is it with Big Bird?!?" (clearly, I wasn't the first to ask). So I explained. He frowned and said, "Hey, that's not cool. I grew up watching that!". I replied, "Yeah, all of us did. Well, maybe not the 1%.". He laughed and said Romney is a rich jerk.
And here I thought it was the 47% comment that sunk the SS RMoney. Nope, it's a giant funny looking bird. Caroll Spinney, I do believe it's time your bird took to the campaign trail for Obama!
On Edit:Rereading this, I realized I left out the starting point. As I was driving to the store, the radio station made a joke about Big Bird being on the chopping block and no, the station wasn't NPR, it was a classic rock station.
klook
(12,157 posts)would be an excellent book to stick under Romney's nose at a campaign event and ask him to autograph, instead of "glittering" him. (Alas, probably too late for this kind of stunt -- with all the hoopla I'm sure he's not doing any book-signing events!)
My husband is a long time muppeteer but only recently has been learning how to make muppets, so I'm quite sure he couldn't make a Big Bird which is a Big Shame! LOL
liberalmike27
(2,479 posts)Sharing is one of the lessons of Sesame Street. Republicans HATE sharing!
Tennessee Gal
(6,160 posts)klook
(12,157 posts)Greetings from even farther down South.
Cha
(297,322 posts)about such a book~
klook
(12,157 posts)DU generates many good outcomes.
Kablooie
(18,634 posts)And I was surprised how short he was.
Much shorter than me but still created that giant bird.
global1
(25,253 posts)turkeys were being slaughtered behind her as she was being filmed. I think that that video moment sealed the deal for a lot of voters back in '08.
Funny how the Repugs will be done in by a bird again in 2012.
I think their 'goose is cooked'.
tavalon
(27,985 posts)It's the first time something so gruesome had me rolling on the floor laughing so hard I thought my guts would break.
Time to flip them the bird, as well!
Electorally, speaking, of course!
treestar
(82,383 posts)It was Thanksgiving.
Still yeah I recall that. What a combo of horror and comedy.
Tennessee Gal
(6,160 posts)Thanks for sharing!
tavalon
(27,985 posts)I just toodled on over to Ebay and it seems they have a lot of Big Bird costumes. My son, while an older trick or treater, can get away with it because he's developmentally delayed. Methinks he'll be going as Elmo, my husband as ________? and me, well, I think we can guess. Now, I just need to make my sign. I think the other side, the walk away side, should say, Don't forget to vote!
I wonder, should I add an Obama/Biden sticker or is that just too heavy handed?
Tennessee Gal
(6,160 posts)I suggest the Count for your husband.
tavalon
(27,985 posts)I'll check with him this afternoon. I work nights and on the nights I don't work, I come up with evil and/or amusing flights of fancy. But he's a fellow DUer and loves all things Sesame Street, so I think, as long as I'm the "frontman" (he's pretty shy) he would be happy to go along and yeah, the Count could be a good fit.
This is amusing me to no end. Much more fun than angsting over one debate.
jmondine
(1,649 posts)I am tavalon's husband, the puppeteer she mentioned. Jerry Nelson, the original performer of The Count, just passed away recently. In addition to keeping with the theme, it would be a fitting tribute to one of the performers who made such a profound difference on mine, and so many others', lives.
I'm having a bit if insomnia. I have two many big birds in my head, I guess. Let's mark this a family thing. I'll hang back so the boy doesn't lose out.
Bluenorthwest
(45,319 posts)nt
Myrina
(12,296 posts)... People's hackles may go up if they see that, whereas if you have no "political affiliation" but are only "in support of Big Bird" it will go over better.
JMHO
ananda
(28,866 posts)That reminded of what I had learned earlier about Romney's penchant
for firing people and destroying jobs.
CrispyQ
(36,478 posts)He probably would have been OK if he'd just mentioned cutting Lehrer's job. So funny! In an effort to make it more dramatic, he created a big steaming pile.
He looked pleased as punch while screwing over PBS, Lehrer and Big Bird.
I'm really surprised more was not made of the fact that firing not only comes so easily to him, but appears to give him much pleasure, as well.
Bullying and power plays are Romneys's drug of choice.
Cha
(297,322 posts)pig wallowing in slop with that shit eating grin he sports.
WinkyDink
(51,311 posts)tavalon
(27,985 posts)so I promise to be very educational. After all, it's Sesame Street, right?
oswaldactedalone
(3,491 posts)Cute but not cutting at all. If nothing else Big Bird should've held up a sign saying "will work for food" if she loses her job. SNL blew it.
liberalmike27
(2,479 posts)The tone of the rest of the brainwashing media, predictably against Obama for telling the truth in a calm manner, I guess the SNL performance about him could have been worse.
You used to be able to count on SNL to be a bit more liberal, as with the rest of the media. These days, not so much. It's bad enough most of what purposes itself as "news" has to be so biased these days. Too bad it seems to have infected the comedy. It isn't even as funny, and if they are trying to impress republicans, they aren't going to get it. They just don't understand humor, unless it directly makes fun of someone for their poverty, or nationality, you know, that sort of thing.
BumRushDaShow
(129,096 posts)Rmoney already politicized the character and the character ITSELF, who is targeted to children, does NOT need to get drawn in to engage with a pathological liar and his lunatic fringe killing frenzy.
"Politics" is a subject that children will eventually learn as they grow older (both in the household and in school) but it is NOT something the CTW would want to start a precedent on within a children's show, which can lead to using children's programming for rethug brainwashing.
The appearance itself WAS the nod to what happened without giving rethugs more talking point fodder to justify killing the funding.
JI7
(89,252 posts)and all the other crap he has said without Obama , Lehrer or anyone else needing to bring it up so Romney can answer with some bs.
WCGreen
(45,558 posts)The wonder and trusting of Big Bird was the whole point of why pick on something so gentle...
BarackTheVote
(938 posts)Big Bird's character is supposed to be a child, along with the innocent naivety. Children don't understand what losing their job means... a lot of them would probably just think, 'hey! more time to play!' Added to that, Sesame Street has never been about politics; it's a utopia where everyone gets along because they all love and respect each other.
This portrayal of Big Bird, as "tame" as it might be, is all the more effective because people will look at that beloved little (big) goof and think to themselves what a mean-spirited ogre Mitt Romney is for wanting to take that away from so many people. Mitt Romney took off the gloves and sucker-punched a child. A child who doesn't know why he's suddenly a political football... all he knows, according to the skit is, "hey, people recognize me on the street!"
BarackTheVote
(938 posts)she's "shocked" that Romney would want to take PBS away from so many people who love it. Remember, the majority of PBS's funds in most places still come from the community donating. To stay on the air, we rely on a united community behind us to stay on the air; we can't play combative politics and alienate half our viewer support. We can't, as Big Bird said, "ruffle feathers." That's not our game. Our game is to remind everyone how they grew up on us, rely on us, and love us; that we are an important part of the whole community. And THAT is what makes Romney look so bad. Once again, you don't root for someone who hits an innocent child.
SunSeeker
(51,574 posts)Spot on.
AnneD
(15,774 posts)Things like teachers to the list of people sucker punched. The line I hear from so many of my good hearted, dedicated teachers is ....... When did we become the enemy? They don't understand how they became the political football/whipping boy. They thought they had been an effective teacher for over 20 years and suddenly, when they are at the top of their game.....they get punched in the gut. And my special ed teacher friends are taking this even harder. Those folks are the PhD rock stars of education world.
yardwork
(61,650 posts)At this point our goal is to persuade undecided voters to support Obama. Folks who are still undecided at this point are people who aren't very interested in politics. Many of them are turned off by overly political statements. The genius of Big Bird and Sesame Street is that they are not overtly political, while carrying a very radical message - one of tolerance, love of learning, sharing, and kindness.
Big Bird and SNL did the job last night.
Zambero
(8,964 posts)Not much needed to be said. The value of "presence".
lunatica
(53,410 posts)That you didn't have to explain what the 1% is.
That's the gift that OWS gave us and probably much more important than Big Bird.
But I do love the importance and impact of the Big Bird reference! Don't get me wrong.
tavalon
(27,985 posts)I meant to say the 53% but my mind wasn't that quick and 1% just rolled off the tongue and yet, he knew exactly what I was referencing.
mainstreetonce
(4,178 posts)wear a little Big Bird pin with his American flag pin this week.
lunatica
(53,410 posts)Great idea!
tavalon
(27,985 posts)things. He would love it. Understated and yet, front and center.
babylonsister
(171,070 posts)do anything for Halloween, so thanks!
tavalon
(27,985 posts)I'm kind of hoping it will be a little like Alice's Restaurant, Sesame Street style!!!!! Oh, and thank you for my new desktop. Romney spray painted brown to blend in with the Latinos was getting old. Out with the old, in with the new! LOL
Night all. I guess this could be called pimping my own post but if just one of us does this, it's funny. If a whole bunch of us do this, singing in harmony, it might just be called a movement!
juajen
(8,515 posts)What unites us, powers us! Go Big Birders! Was there ever a man so wonderful as Jim Hansen?
valerief
(53,235 posts)CrispyQ
(36,478 posts)There one out there with Big Bird & a sign that says, "Show your taxes." I like it too. But this one really rocks.
toby jo
(1,269 posts)straw hat or something. Shit, too funny. Have BB holding it up out front.
I'm working on a 'Like Bush, you'll LOVE Romney' sign. Hell I thought that was bold.
Astazia
(262 posts)Mitt on the other hand always has had a price!
(saved pic for phone screen)
heaven05
(18,124 posts)i always dress as the grim reaper, sign going on scythe? BIG BIRD IS NEXT.
davidthegnome
(2,983 posts)Love the way you wrote it, too. After reading college text books, I'm always relieved when I read something with spirit, uniqueness and humor.
You know, I was never crazy about Sesame Street - I think I had a Big Bird stuffed animal as a kid, but beyond that... I was more interested in GI Joes and girls. Still, it's rather absurd that a man running for President has taken issue with a big, fake, fluffy yellow bird.
Ah, I've got a solution for dear old Mitt... go hunting with Dick Cheney!
jumptheshadow
(3,269 posts)...was "How many Big Birds and Muppets will show up in the Greenwich Village Halloween Parade this year?"
I bet there will be some hilarious stuff.
Samantha
(9,314 posts)check the link below. There is hope we might see a good number of trick or treaters going out as Big Bird:
http://www.google.com/#hl=en&sclient=psy-ab&q=Halloween+costumes+Big+Bird&oq=Halloween+costumes+Big+Bird&gs_l=hp.12..0i30l2j0i5i30j0i8i30.6069.16406.0.20197.27.27.0.0.0.0.159.2083.25j2.27.0.les%3Bcpsugrpq2..0.0...1.1.2MLXbmAhRV0&pbx=1&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.r_qf.&fp=3266efb6d9a31251&biw=1152&bih=665
Also Bert and Ernie costumes are being sold!
Hope you find something suitable. There are a variety of sources and different price ranges.
I don't have any little ones to take out, but I am wondering if I could get something and stuff it as a yard decoration. Maybe the Big Bird decoration could be holding a sign appropriate for the occasion.
Sam
James48
(4,436 posts)garthranzz
(1,330 posts)And encourage them to vote if they were?
drm604
(16,230 posts)I'd rather it be economics, healthcare, and foreign affairs but hey, if this helps I'm all for it.
graham4anything
(11,464 posts)Jim Henson was suppose to be originally, but he didn't seem to adapt to the walk of it.
Jim Henson was of course is legendary for his liberal causes.
It's too bad last week Frank Oz (voice of many muppet and also Yoda) was doing publicity on all the stations for the rerelease had it happened this week he could have commented on it (and maybe he will.)
johnlucas
(1,250 posts)In 1969, the year after Martin Luther King & Robert Kennedy were assassinated, here comes this show set in an urban neighborhood with people of all different ethnic & financial backgrounds living together in harmony & learning from each other.
There were scary vampires who liked to count, googly-eyed monsters who liked cookies, overgrown yellow birds, green grouches living in trash cans, orange & yellow roommates that reminded you of the Odd Couple & Black people...LOTS of Black people!
And Hispanic people!
And Asian people!
And blue sentimental monsters named Grover who hugged those different people along with the White people.
He didn't do one armed hugs either. Full on hugs! There was no "EW" factor with him.
Black little kids, White little kids, Hispanic little kids, Asian little kids, kids of every background imaginable.
And you get to learn Spanish on this street called Sesame.
And you get to listen to Stevie Wonder & other hip musical acts on this street.
All while learning your ABCs & 123s.
Then the king of the Muppets the green frog Kermit who's known for singing a song called It's Not Easy Bein' Green comes on & teaches you further.
Teaching impressionable kids about how different doesn't mean wrong, that different doesn't mean bad.
Big yellow birds play with big brown snuffleupaguses.
Monsters are not really MONSTERS. They got feelings just like you & me. From worrywart Telly to happy-go-lucky Elmo.
I GUARANTEE that a lot of the social progress we have made as a country came DIRECTLY from this show.
Jim Henson was a long-haired hippie.
His Muppets were for Progress.
That's why it's no surprise that his children withdrew the Muppets from supporting Chick-Fil-A after the chicken chain's stance on Gay Marriage.
The Muppets are STILL for Progress.
I grew up watching the Muppet Babies cartoon as a kid & one of the most impressionable lessons I learned from that show was the thing about Baby Gonzo & the 'weirdo' label.
That episode showed that we're ALL 'weirdos' & just because we don't understand something or somebody doesn't make them wrong.
I mean a pig married a frog in one of those Muppet movies. Take on interracial romance perhaps?
The Muppets like Jim Henson are about Progress.
Rest In Peace Jim Henson & thank you.
John Lucas
B Stieg
(2,410 posts)BB has always been a polite, respectful, nice guy.
Mr. Romney, not so much.
K Gardner
(14,933 posts)a huge argument about Big Bird and Elmo at lunch time. He said they were slinging mac and cheese all over the place, LOL !~ (this is a catholic school, and he said even the teachers were arguing)
renate
(13,776 posts)Most of the kids wouldn't have known what the real issue was; they just saw two grown women getting into a fight about Big Bird and Elmo....
Funny how Big Bird struck such a chord. And the really funny thing is that Romney had obviously planned ahead to do his little riff on "I like Big Bird. I like you, Jim," or whatever the words were. It was very practiced and he looked so pleased with himself. What a dumb move, especially since he could have gone after something like Masterpiece Theater instead.
treestar
(82,383 posts)A lot of people don't know who Tweety is too and may have reacted on their own to the debate. And then those low info who did not watch the debate are hearing about Big Bird.
Ruricolous1
(16 posts)According to GOP we as a nation can't afford PBS, but we always have the cash to help "Java-the-Hate" (AKA Rush Limbaugh) spread his hate worldwide over the Armed Forces Network.
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Riley18
(1,127 posts)We simply do not matter. A friend and I were texting back and forth during the debate, and I really only focused on the outrage I felt at Sesame Street being fired. The rest of his words were lost to me as I couldn't stop focusing on his smirk. That one comment broke through my complete distaste for that man. I am beyond happy that he spoke his mind with regard to PBS, and things the average person finds important - like food and shelter for the many and not just for the few.
hue
(4,949 posts)1monster
(11,012 posts)One wears a Mitt Romney mask and is otherwise dressed as Elmer Fudd in his hunting attire. The other dresses as Big Bird carrying a sign that says "HELP! MITT ROMNEY WANTS TO DO AWAY WITH ME!".
At every trick or treat stop, they push the door bell and when someone answers, Big Bird goes running in circles calling for help while Elmer Romney chases him yelling "Come back you wrascally Big Bird!"
I'd bet the two would clean up even in BIG RED country.
coalition_unwilling
(14,180 posts)Mitt's chances. But I'll take his political demise by a giant yellow bird. Somewhere in heaven Seamus and John Lauber are smiling.
SweetieD
(1,660 posts)I find it strange too but I agree with you. I think most people see the defunding of PBS as an extreme measure. Big Bird is an american icon. Nearly everyone knows that character and knows Sesame Street. By Romney making any hint that he might detriment it, is seen as a bad thing. Romney comes off as a grinch. It was definitely an ill placed reference. He could've just mentioned Lehrer and stopped at that. But nope he had to go further and mention Sesame Street.
ReallyIAmAnOptimist
(357 posts)Some have noticed that Dems have a chance at taking back the House. That's looking less so due to deeper number crunching on the effects of GOP Gerrymandering... this is why we need everybody registered and voting! (And pushing back on calling liars "winners".) Otherwise, we'll end up in the same conundrum as the past two years. Since the Senate looks safe Dem, doing everything we can for the House matters big time. I for one want the gavel back in Nancy's hand.
From: http://election.princeton.edu/2012/10/06/predictions-october-6th-house/#more-6867
"I have evaluated incumbency and redistricting advantages quantitatively. I now believe that these two phenomena contribute approximately equally to an overall advantage of R+2.5+/-1.0%. In other words, Democrats need to win the popular vote by 2.5+/-1.0% in order to achieve near-parity in House seats. I was wrong about thinking there was little tilt in the playing field. Its substantial.
Todays prediction uses the generic Congressional ballot median since the conventions, currently D+2.5+/-1.0% (18 polls). Between now and the election, it is likely to move a few points in one direction or the other. Undecideds are at 10.5+/-0.8%. This month, a very large shoe will drop.
It is critical to pay attention to the uncertainty here: +/-11 seats.
House prediction, October 6th:
Two-party popular vote share: D 51.3 +/- 1.5 %, R 48.7 +/- 1.5%.
Seats*: D 217.5 +/- 11 seats, R 217.5 +/- 11 seats.
Uncertainties are 1-sigma (68% of outcomes).
Technical notes on this calculation are here. I would rather you not focus on the party-control probability, which is basically 50-50.
In the coming weeks, a better prediction will be possible two ways: (1) the freshest available generic polls, and (2) using district-specific polls, as collected by RealClearPolitics or Pollster.com."
siligut
(12,272 posts)Obama being reelected looks quite feasible, but it would really be so much better if he has a Congress that will work with him.
Spitfire of ATJ
(32,723 posts)Big Bird is our "Joe The Plumber".
bread_and_roses
(6,335 posts)(I'm older than dirt so can't remember which Admin it was - but the result was the same - Big Bird to the rescue and general outrage and disgust.
Can't believe one of R_Money's advisors didn't remember that - lots of them older than dirt too, I'm sure.
Warpy
(111,277 posts)was not in talking about PBS on the chopping block, something every ignorant right winger thinks is a great idea, but reminding them that what they watched and loved as kids was what was on the chopping block, not all the wonkish stuff in prime time that makes their brains hurt.
I am delighted the man is that tone deaf and clueless. If sinking Sesame Street is what kills off what's left of his disaster of a campaign, that's great.
I know no woman whose only hour of assured peace and quiet every day was during Sesame Street is going to vote for him now.
Indpndnt
(2,391 posts)The biggest, stupidest mistake he could ever make.
Hooray!
Cha
(297,322 posts)"Made it into the psyche"! Very good at expressing your experience with the whole Big Bird Thing! Thanks!
Buns_of_Fire
(17,182 posts)Millions of Big Birds hitting the streets.
Big Bird buttons being worn throughout the country.
"Save Big Bird" bumperstickers.
"Why Do Republicans Hate Big Bird?" editorials.
Big Bird Apocalypse!
Hey, if it works, it works.
Shiraz
(302 posts)I bought my great nephew an Elmo costume ! I think incorporating any of the muppets into some type of message would work. I usually post something when it applies to my autistic son. He is now 22 and has always and still loves anything Sesame Street ! Just today I gave him The Muppet Movie to get through a boring day without much stimulation , VHS, which I picked up at a thrift store for .99. Honestly I can't imagine what our life would have been like without Muppets.
progree
(10,909 posts)underthematrix
(5,811 posts)BIG BIRD dolls when we go to vote early. We figure BIG BIRD has a right to know who's in his corner in this fight.
FailureToCommunicate
(14,014 posts)'the psyche' also. Everyone - the 99% - easily uses "the 1%" as shorthand for rich plutocrats.
(And I'm a huge fan of Carroll Spinney and you know who)
Really like your writing, tavalon.
Zalatix
(8,994 posts)spooky3
(34,458 posts)She also was appalled by Romney's 47% remarks, but the comment about Big Bird was the first thing out of her mouth. She couldn't believe he was so stupid as to go after PBS.
I also think there is a "straw that broke the camel's back" thing happening with some voters.
Wednesdays
(17,380 posts)Thursday morning while I was reading DU's freak-out on my phone browser, my wife was on the computer, howling over all the Big Bird memes flooding her Facebook page!
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MADem
(135,425 posts)99th_Monkey
(19,326 posts)here: http://www.democraticunderground.com/1251125317
I'm loving how Big Bird showed up, and is weighing in big time
in the 2012 Election. Woot!