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When the cameras rolled Mitt Romney's performance beganproblem is that's all it was.
Published on Oct 7, 2012 by BarackObamadotcom
Senior Obama campaign adviser Robert Gibbs: Romney Gave a 'Masterful Theatrical Performance'
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porphyrian
(18,530 posts)writes3000
(4,734 posts)bigtree
(85,998 posts)Romney's expressions are priceless and the tone is universal, while highlighting the one event. I think this was as stellar an ad as they've produced so far.
OldDem2012
(3,526 posts)...the debate, all based on the lies Romney told. Any so-called "advantage" Romney gained from his manic behavior during the debate is being completely countered.
bigtree
(85,998 posts)Last edited Sun Oct 7, 2012, 01:34 PM - Edit history (1)
I think the number is higher, but, you're right about the level of their responses.
They're also strategically targeted to specific markets over local networks, internet, social media, and other sources. It's still an ongoing fight, as you can see from the tone and substance of this latest effort, but, I think you're correct that Romney is being aggressively countered by the Obama camp.
ywcachieve
(365 posts)He acted like he was on 'speed'.
treestar
(82,383 posts)Hopefully people are getting tired of the Reaganesque qualities of Presidents who just take the part while the real work is done by somebody like Cheney and Rove.
Whisp
(24,096 posts)Qutzupalotl
(14,317 posts)When Romney THINKS no one is watching, he rattles off things like the 47 percent line. When he gets caught, he says he was completely wrong.
The unspoken message is clear and powerful.
awake
(3,226 posts)keep them coming
littlemissmartypants
(22,692 posts)awake
(3,226 posts)I have been a viewer for years and just decided to ad my 2 cents to the board.
efhmc
(14,731 posts)longship
(40,416 posts)R&
WinkyDink
(51,311 posts)HopeHoops
(47,675 posts)Wounded Bear
(58,670 posts)After all, Romney's performance at the debate basically wrote a bunch of ads for Team Obama.
I'd be really disappointed if they weren't producing these.
mnhtnbb
(31,392 posts)lunatica
(53,410 posts)Even in spite of the DU Fear Brigade.
heaven05
(18,124 posts)'du fear brigade' i WAS part of it, so I'm laughing at myself. Go Team!!!
littlemissmartypants
(22,692 posts)bigtree.
efhmc
(14,731 posts)progressivebydesign
(19,458 posts)BumRushDaShow
(129,096 posts)Especially when he's on the stump and saying that we don't know which Rmoney is showing up for a debate.
Those zingers the Prez has started trumpeting on the stomp post debate should be used in some sort of advertisement as well; preferably paid television. The ad above, though, is a thing of beauty. And let me tell you, if I'm reading the tea-leaves correctly, Plouffe may be aware of some other footage that has RMoney denigrating the "47%". Now wouldn't that be GRAND?
If David Corn is sitting on such a scoop----that APOLOGY TOUR o'l Mitt has been on will come back to bite. HARD!
jaysunb
(11,856 posts)welcome to DU
Jay! This is my first welcome. Much appreciated
I'm excited about joining up with REAL supporters who are ready to fight!
I LOVE TO FIGHT........no cowering should be tolerated. 29 days to go!
Honeycombe8
(37,648 posts)PCIntern
(25,556 posts)speedoo
(11,229 posts)If that message is put out widely enough, the election is over.
mucifer
(23,550 posts)Response to bigtree (Original post)
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Tom_x
(41 posts)The only way you measure a politician is by what they do fore the average joe.
I dont care who they fuck. I don't care what drugs they take or don't take.
People that talk to you about character or morality in politicians are changing the subject from political issues. Its the clergy that deal with morality and character. Not politicians.
BlueStreak
(8,377 posts)There are much better ways to get the point across. See #31.
uponit7771
(90,347 posts)ywcachieve
(365 posts)bigtree
(85,998 posts)The characterization of the President's character has EVERYTHING to do with political issues and the substance of his job; and nothing at all to do with clergy or some morality play.
Here's Joe Biden describing Barack Obama's 'character:
Folks, tonight, I want to tell you about Barack Obama. The Barack Obama Ive come to know. I want to show you the character of a leaderwho had what it took, when the American people stood at the brink of a new Depression. A leader who has what it takes to lead us over the next four yearsto a future as great as our people.
I want to take you inside the White House to see the President, as I see him every day. Because I dont see him in sound bites. I walk down the hall, 30 steps to the Oval Office, and I see him in action.
Four years ago, middle class incomes were already falling. Then the bottom fell out. The financial crisis hit. You remember the headlines: Markets Plummet Worldwide, Highest Job Losses in 60 Years, and Economy on the Brink
From the moment President Obama sat behind the Resolute desk in the Oval Office, he knew he had to restore the confidence not only of the nation but the whole world. He knew, that one false move could bring a run on the banks, or a credit collapse, that could throw millions out of work. America and the world needed a strong president with a steady hand, with the judgment and vision to see us through.
Day after day, night after night, I sat beside him, as he made one gutsy decision after anotherto stop the slide and reverse it. I watched him stand up to intense pressure and stare down choices of enormous consequence. Most of all, I saw what drove him: His profound concern for the American people.
He knew, that no matter how tough the decisions he had to make in the Oval Office were, families all over America had to make decisions every bit as tough for themas they sat around their kitchen tables. Barack and I have been through a lot together. And weve learned a lot about each other. I learned of the enormity of his heart. And he learned of the depth of my loyalty. And there was another thing that bound us. We both had a pretty good idea what these families were going throughin part because our own families had gone through similar struggles.
Barack had to sit at the end of his moms hospital bed and watch her fight cancer and fight her insurance companies at the same time. I was a kid, but I can remember the day that my dad sat at the end of my bed, and said, things are going to be tough for a while. I have to go to Delaware to get a new job. But its going to be better for us. The rest of my life, my dad never failed to remind methat a job is about a lot more than a paycheck. Its about dignity. Its about respect. Its about being able to look your children in the eyeand say honey, its going to be okay, and believe it was going to be okay. When Barack and I were growing up, there was an implicit understanding. If you took responsibility, youd get a fair shot at a better deal. The values behind that dealwere the values that shaped us both. And today, they are Baracks guiding star.
Folks, Ive watched him. He never wavers. He steps up. He asks the same thing over and over again: How is this going to work for ordinary families? Will it help them? And because of the decisions hes made, and the strength the American people have demonstrated every day, America has turned the corner. After the worst job loss since the Great Depression, weve created 4.5 million private sector jobs in the past 29 months.
President Obama and Governor Romney are both loving husbands and devoted fathers. But they bring vastly different values and visions to the job. Tonight Id like to focus on two crisesthat show the character of the leadership each man will bring to the job. The first is the rescue of the automobile industry.
Let me tell you about how Barack saved more than 1 million American jobs. In our first days in office, General Motors and Chrysler were on the verge of liquidation. If the President didnt act immediately, there wouldnt be an industry left to save.
We listened to Senators, Congressmen, outside advisors, even some of our own advisors saywe shouldnt step in, the risks were too high, the outcome too uncertain. The President patiently listened. But he didnt see it their way. He understood something they didnt. He understood that this wasnt just about cars. It was about the Americans who built those cars and the America they built.
In those meetings, I often thought about my dad. My dad was an automobile man. He would have been one of those guysall the way down the linenot in the factorynot along the supply chainbut one of those guys selling American cars to the American people. I thought about what this crisis would have meant for the mechanics, the secretaries, the sales people who he managed. And I know for certain, that if my dad were here today, he would be fighting for this President, who fought to save all those jobs, his job, and the jobs of all the people he cared about. He would respect Barack Obama for having the guts to stand up for the automobile industry, when others walked away.
When I look back now on the Presidents decision, I also think of another son of an automobile manMitt Romney. Mitt Romney grew up in Detroit. His father ran American Motors. Yet he was willing to let Detroit go bankrupt. Its not that hes a bad guy. Im sure he grew up loving cars as much as I did. I just dont think he understoodI just dont think he understood what saving the automobile industry meant-to all of America. I think he saw it the Bain way. Balance sheets. Write-offs.
Folks, the Bain way may bring your firm the highest profit. But its not the way to lead your country from its highest office.
When things hung in the balance, the President understood it was about a lot more than the automobile industry. It was about restoring Americas pride. He knew what it would mean to leave 1 million people without hope or work if we didnt act. He knew the message it would have sent to the rest of the world if the United States of America gave up on the industry that helped put America on the map. Conviction. Resolve . . .
more: http://www.demconvention.com/speech/vice-president-joe-biden/
valerief
(53,235 posts)benefit from the suppression and utilization of the masses. They have nothing to do with character.
BlueStreak
(8,377 posts)That will immediately turn off a lot of people. They should have opened with some sources that the average person thinks are less partisan.
This is a buullshit ad. Very bad idea. I hope they don't waste any of my money paying for this to run on TV.
IT is attacking Romney's character directly, which comes across as mud slinging. They should stick with the facts. Simply show Romney saying he's going to cut rates by 20%, then show him denying it is a $5 trillion cut, then show Chris Wallace of Fox trying desperately to get the facts out of him.
The message is it is a pig in a poke. How can you vote for a person who won't tell you the whole truth about his plans -- hell, he won't even tell Fox News the truth about his plans? That is how you get to the character issue.
. . . that's just a mish-mosh of themes they've already produced and marketed in the form of ads and other media appeals. In advertising, the Obama campaign is light years ahead of anything you described here.
BlueStreak
(8,377 posts)No. I don't think so. This was the work of a low level hack in the middle of the night who didn't get very good direction from the people in the campaign who understand these things a lot better.
Hopefully they won't spend a penny on running this spot until they fix the various problems. As it sits, it does more harm than good. Oh, it makes the partisan bed wetters feel good, but it won't persuade a single person we actually need to reach.
Who do you think 'we' need to reach?
BlueStreak
(8,377 posts)It is about INFLUENCE.
If you saw a pro-Romney ad and the "evidence" for Romney's position was quotes from O'Reilly and Gingrich, how influenced would you be?
If anything you would be influenced more AGAINST Romney.
Straight up. This ad will not win over a single person we need to reach and it very definitely could push some people away.
It is so unnecessary. There are other ways to present this material more powerfully that don't have the MSNBC problem.
We don't need to be wasting any time on money on ads that just preach to the choir.
NYC Liberal
(20,136 posts)It wouldn't matter if the ad quoted CNN or Fox as well.
BlueStreak
(8,377 posts)bigtree
(85,998 posts). . . but as BumRushDaShow says, so politely below*, there are plenty of other ads, many which do exactly what you describe here; using conservative sources to burn Romney on a wide range of issues.
read:
Obama is running anti-Romney expandable ads on key swing state news sites with a message aimed squarely at younger voters, along with a more-general anti-Romney ad takeover mirroring the #ForwardNotBack theme on HuffingtonPost.com.
The Obama paid trend links to search results topped with a video tweet from the Obama camp: therein lies about a minute-and-a-half of mainstream media response to the debate, all suggesting statements by Republican Mitt Romney were light on facts. TV coverage clips are coupled with several screenshots of equally damning conclusions on Twitter about Romney statements from non-partisan fact-checking groups FactCheck.org and Politifact.
"The results are in. Romney played fast and loose with the facts," states text that introduces (yesterday's) Obama video. (Same format as today's)
Before the debate, Obama's campaign surrogates played down his chances of scoring high points last night, in part because Romney had more recent debate experience and more time to prepare. Today's video-enhanced Twitter move seems to follow that strategy. Rather than highlighting the President and his own words, the video uses trusted media outlets to reinforce one of Obama's primary messages last night: Romney's claims regarding issues such as healthcare and his tax plan are not based in fact.
http://www.clickz.com/clickz/news/2214850/obama-attacks-swiftly-on-twitter-jabs-romney-on-swing-sites
As I said above, most of the news sources used so far were actually adversarial sources which had very damaging statements to bolster the President's argument. I suggest you go here and here.
. . . take a look through the multitude of video efforts, understanding that this is a strategic, targeted effort which doesn't appear to require second-guessing or the derision you've expressed.
BlueStreak
(8,377 posts)This is just a poorly conceived ad. Sorry, it can't be rationalized away. There are better ways to get this point across, whether to the base or to the people we actually need to influence.
Yes, it is one of many. One that should go into the trash can, and probably will once the senior people see it.
bigtree
(85,998 posts)This is a smart way to convey one of the President's strongest assets over Romney: That he cares more for the needs and concerns of the average American than his republican rival.
And, I don't think that it's time for the softball, let's not offend anyone' stuff right now, either. This ad succeeds at, both defining the focus and measure of the President, and, at reinforcing the very successful theme for the campaign of portraying Romney as out-of-touch and phony. Very effective.
ywcachieve
(365 posts)uponit7771
(90,347 posts)bigtree
(85,998 posts)they know 'familiar'
BumRushDaShow
(129,096 posts)And others have been posted on DU. There are a bunch out there.
Here's one -
BlueMTexpat
(15,369 posts)on this one.
d_b
(7,463 posts)JackN415
(924 posts)perhaps it's just me, biased against Romney (oh.. the horror!), but he looked so fake. Just an act.
bigtree
(85,998 posts). . . but, you're right, Jack, his facial expressions are golden. What a ham!
Tom_x
(41 posts)LBJ had pretty terrible character yet he started those fantastic great society programs that cut poverty in half.
If LBJ could run for office I'd vote for him in a second because he passed the Good Politician test with flying colors.
He took care of joe six pack.
Response to Tom_x (Reply #38)
valerief This message was self-deleted by its author.
You're projecting a false definition of character based on the worst possible aspects of the term.
First you defined character as 'morality' and something to do with 'clergy.'
The President serves the definition of 'character' in doing exactly what you describe here: 'Taking care of' the average American. Political will to do the right thing by Americans; as opposed to serving the interests of a privileged few.
You've overshot the point by a mile. Most posters responding seem to get it.
Tom_x
(41 posts)>> You're projecting a false definition of character based on the worst possible aspects of the term.
Is that a fact.
projection/bias . . . false premise/false conclusion
uponit7771
(90,347 posts)...deductions away from the middle class
treestar
(82,383 posts)If he supported the bills that took "care of Joe Six-Pack" what was wrong with his character?
Tom_x
(41 posts)in the typical way that it has been used (weaponized) in the past 30 years. That is it has been used to "assassinate" politicians on the left that screwed around or didn't make a public display of their religion enough to satisfy all the other conspicuously religious groups.
Thats the bastardized definition of character in todays context and thats the way it is currently being used.
valerief
(53,235 posts)Nancy Waterman
(6,407 posts)Much clearer than the earlier ones!
BigD_95
(911 posts)One of the best
skeewee08
(1,983 posts)Liberal_in_LA
(44,397 posts)Sekhmets Daughter
(7,515 posts)We are being buried in Romney ads...The only thing I watch on the Fox Network is football and the pre-game show...I lost count of the number of times the same ad ran during just that hour....
Glimmer of Hope
(5,823 posts)horseshoecrab
(944 posts)oswaldactedalone
(3,491 posts)Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin
(108,034 posts)Give Mitt enough rope to hang himself.
amuse bouche
(3,657 posts)Romney is going crazy down here with B.S. ads. Did you know the Prez and the liberals plan on rising middle class taxes 4k a year and that Romney will create 12 million jobs? These type of ads are running 24/7. It's scary
Rose Siding
(32,623 posts)hrmjustin
(71,265 posts)ywcachieve
(365 posts)BrainMann1
(460 posts)Good job guys.