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struggle4progress

(118,356 posts)
Mon Jan 11, 2021, 07:47 AM Jan 2021

Army investigating officer who led group to DC

by: Associated Press
Posted: Jan 10, 2021 / 10:25 PM PST / Updated: Jan 10, 2021 / 10:26 PM PST

... Commanders at Fort Bragg are reviewing Captain Emily Rainey’s involvement in last week’s events in the nation’s capital, but she said she acted within military regulations and that no one in her group broke the law ...

Rainey, 30, is assigned to the 4th Psychological Operations Group at Fort Bragg, according to Maj. Daniel Lessard, a spokesman for 1st Special Forces Command. Known as PSYOPS, the group uses information and misinformation to shape the emotions, decision-making and actions of American adversaries.

Rainey made headlines back in May after she posted a video online of her pulling down caution tape at a playground that was closed under North Carolina’s COVID-19 restrictions.

Police in Southern Pines, a community about 30 miles (48 kilometers) west of Fort Bragg, charged her with injury to personal property over the incident. The police told WRAL-TV that they let her off with warnings twice before after she tore down the tape closing off the playground ...

https://ktla.com/news/nationworld/u-s-army-investigating-officer-who-led-group-to-d-c-trump-rally-turned-riot/

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Army investigating officer who led group to DC (Original Post) struggle4progress Jan 2021 OP
Psy-ops ???? essaynnc Jan 2021 #1
But don't you think that there is a large percentage who are Squinch Jan 2021 #4
I think you've hit the nail on the head Turin_C3PO Jan 2021 #6
I think it is true of my trumper relative, and it makes his trumpism Squinch Jan 2021 #8
Same with my uncle and grandpa. Turin_C3PO Jan 2021 #9
Are they Rebl2 Jan 2021 #28
Not sure. Turin_C3PO Jan 2021 #35
Sounds like tRump. SammyWinstonJack Jan 2021 #12
Um d_r Jan 2021 #19
A Psy Ops Capt. Mc Mike Jan 2021 #2
Unbelievable I'm ashamed my alma mater the Eighty deuce TEB Jan 2021 #3
Good. ancianita Jan 2021 #14
Conduct unbecoming might be a useful charge. Fortinbras Armstrong Jan 2021 #25
133 is always thrown in on any formal charge sarge43 Jan 2021 #29
Pisses me off sarge TEB Jan 2021 #34
For the past five years pissed off has been my default. sarge43 Jan 2021 #36
I'm frustrated as well friend TEB Jan 2021 #37
From your monitor to the Chair, JCoS sarge43 Jan 2021 #38
Traitor to our oath to constitution makes me angry TEB Jan 2021 #41
What more can I say? Oh wait sarge43 Jan 2021 #42
This message was self-deleted by its author Fortinbras Armstrong Jan 2021 #26
K&R Solly Mack Jan 2021 #5
She's cut and run. Resigned her commission. How very brave of her. sarge43 Jan 2021 #39
I hope so, too. Solly Mack Jan 2021 #40
So now I hope people don't get shocked anymore Proud liberal 80 Jan 2021 #7
I don't think there's any evidence they're crazier Turin_C3PO Jan 2021 #10
How is this fucking nimrod still on active duty? maxrandb Jan 2021 #11
+1 ProfessorGAC Jan 2021 #13
I remember doing a positive vetting interview for a friend. plimsoll Jan 2021 #16
Article 94 UCMJ 4Q2u2 Jan 2021 #15
Hmmm. plimsoll Jan 2021 #18
Who is her dad, or mom? Someone important? gab13by13 Jan 2021 #17
One week from noon Wednesday... llmart Jan 2021 #20
Loose cannon who needs to be assigned to Roisin Ni Fiachra Jan 2021 #21
PSYOPS had the best mess hall on Bragg when I was stationed there. Ligyron Jan 2021 #22
this was a military coup attempt januoro Jan 2021 #23
She almost sounds like s Russian sleeper agent. nt Ilsa Jan 2021 #24
Career. Over! Grins Jan 2021 #27
Army Capt. Emily Rainey dalton99a Jan 2021 #30
If the media had focused on the Trump supporters in the military, board rooms and C-suites instead WhiskeyGrinder Jan 2021 #31
many like this? llashram Jan 2021 #32
She just forgot to read that part to defend and protect the Constitution... but insurrection turbinetree Jan 2021 #33

essaynnc

(801 posts)
1. Psy-ops ????
Mon Jan 11, 2021, 07:51 AM
Jan 2021

You'd have thought she could see through the b.s. !!!! I guess she doesn't recognize her own craft when she sees it..

Squinch

(51,021 posts)
4. But don't you think that there is a large percentage who are
Mon Jan 11, 2021, 07:55 AM
Jan 2021

perfectly aware the stories they spout are bullshit and they just spout them as a cynical excuse for their hatred?

Turin_C3PO

(14,077 posts)
6. I think you've hit the nail on the head
Mon Jan 11, 2021, 07:59 AM
Jan 2021

in regards to this woman. I believe she knows what she spouts is bullshit but uses it because it suits her agenda, whatever that may be.

Squinch

(51,021 posts)
8. I think it is true of my trumper relative, and it makes his trumpism
Mon Jan 11, 2021, 08:01 AM
Jan 2021

somehow worse than if it had been just stupidity.

Turin_C3PO

(14,077 posts)
9. Same with my uncle and grandpa.
Mon Jan 11, 2021, 08:04 AM
Jan 2021

My uncle is a retired Lt. Colonel and my grandpa a retired PhD of psychology professor. Both seem way too smart for Trumpism but still seem to believe some of the bullshit. I think the root of their problem is racial bigotry. One good thing is that they were horrified about what happened Wednesday.

TEB

(12,904 posts)
3. Unbelievable I'm ashamed my alma mater the Eighty deuce
Mon Jan 11, 2021, 07:54 AM
Jan 2021

Her claim as private citizen will not hold water under ucmj.

sarge43

(28,945 posts)
36. For the past five years pissed off has been my default.
Mon Jan 11, 2021, 11:44 AM
Jan 2021

Now I'm hearing the Song of my Celtic ancestors: Never forget; never forgive. We served honorably, TEB and that trash insulted and demeaned us. Oh yeah and that AF Lt Col. I want to see his head on a pike.

Being a traditionalist, I'd want the old way brought back - sword broken, every bit of insignia removed right down to the buttons. Then frog marched to the gate and thrown out into the cold and dark.

Yes, I'm somewhat vexed.

TEB

(12,904 posts)
37. I'm frustrated as well friend
Mon Jan 11, 2021, 12:03 PM
Jan 2021

At 17 or enlisting we swore oath and not realizing that oath carried us we were bound by oath. Under a trumpig presidency and vets that broke oath to constitution let them suffer consequences.

Response to TEB (Reply #3)

sarge43

(28,945 posts)
39. She's cut and run. Resigned her commission. How very brave of her.
Mon Jan 11, 2021, 12:27 PM
Jan 2021

Hope FBI comes tap tapping on her door.

Proud liberal 80

(4,167 posts)
7. So now I hope people don't get shocked anymore
Mon Jan 11, 2021, 07:59 AM
Jan 2021

When they hear that 55% of white women voted for Trump.....with the two newest nut jobs in the House, Blackburn and Hyde-Smith in the senate, the lady who died trying to climb into a glass door and this lady, they are rabid and crazier than their male counterparts

Turin_C3PO

(14,077 posts)
10. I don't think there's any evidence they're crazier
Mon Jan 11, 2021, 08:07 AM
Jan 2021

than the males. Most in the Capitol were white males and all across the nation the crazy ass militias are populated by primarily white men.

maxrandb

(15,360 posts)
11. How is this fucking nimrod still on active duty?
Mon Jan 11, 2021, 08:51 AM
Jan 2021
"Police in Southern Pines, a community about 30 miles (48 kilometers) west of Fort Bragg, charged her with injury to personal property over the incident. The police told WRAL-TV that they let her off with warnings twice before after she tore down the tape closing off the playground ..."

It really hasn't been that long ago that I retired, but holy fuck! It appears that we used to demand more of military officers.

Officers are "selected", and they serve in "positions of trust".

It's mostly ceremonial, but even officer promotions at the lowest rank require Congressional confirmation. Every fucking promotion list MUST be confirmed by Congress.

It's time to NOT FUCKING CONFIRM one more promotion list until there is a serious fucking top to bottom, bottom to top investigation and review of military standards of behavior and good order and discipline.

If I, or an officer I served with had displayed this type of behavior, two warnings and a injury to personal property charge we would be riding a fucking desk and facing "relief of duty for cause".

Here's why this is so fucking important.

This fucking officer is in a position to order young men and women to go in harms way and die. She has been given authority to risk the treasure of our country...our own sons and daughters.

She should NEVER, EVER be put in a position of trust.

plimsoll

(1,670 posts)
16. I remember doing a positive vetting interview for a friend.
Mon Jan 11, 2021, 09:45 AM
Jan 2021

It appears we allow less trustworthy people to command our troops than we permit to look at mechanical engineering data.

 

4Q2u2

(1,406 posts)
15. Article 94 UCMJ
Mon Jan 11, 2021, 09:44 AM
Jan 2021

States that not only is Mutiny and Sedition punishable by death, but
section 3 states that you have an obligation to stop it or at least report it to higher while it is happening.
If not you are still culpable and the penalty is DEATH.

10 U.S. Code § 894 - Art. 94. Mutiny or sedition
U.S. Code
Notes
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(a)Any person subject to this chapter who—
(1)with intent to usurp or override lawful military authority, refuses, in concert with any other person, to obey orders or otherwise do his duty or creates any violence or disturbance is guilty of mutiny;
(2)with intent to cause the overthrow or destruction of lawful civil authority, creates, in concert with any other person, revolt, violence, or other disturbance against that authority is guilty of sedition;
(3)fails to do his utmost to prevent and suppress a mutiny or sedition being committed in his presence, or fails to take all reasonable means to inform his superior commissioned officer or commanding officer of a mutiny or sedition which he knows or has reason to believe is taking place, is guilty of a failure to suppress or report a mutiny or sedition.
(b)A person who is found guilty of attempted mutiny, mutiny, sedition, or failure to suppress or report a mutiny or sedition shall be punished by death or such other punishment as a court-martial may direct.
(Aug. 10, 1956, ch. 1041, 70A Stat. 68.)

plimsoll

(1,670 posts)
18. Hmmm.
Mon Jan 11, 2021, 09:51 AM
Jan 2021

She admits organizing a group to go to the coup.

Does that count as "in concert?"

I'm not an expert here, but if she took a group of enlisted personal wouldn't that jack up the consequences.

This looks to me like a very bad apple. It's a shame the military can't "police" itself.

llmart

(15,555 posts)
20. One week from noon Wednesday...
Mon Jan 11, 2021, 10:03 AM
Jan 2021

President Biden will be our new Commander in Chief. His administration needs to clean out the military of these sorts from top to bottom. I guarantee you it isn't just a handful.

Roisin Ni Fiachra

(2,574 posts)
21. Loose cannon who needs to be assigned to
Mon Jan 11, 2021, 10:11 AM
Jan 2021

Fort Greely Army Base near Fairbanks, Alaska, and put in charge of latrine maintenance.

Ligyron

(7,639 posts)
22. PSYOPS had the best mess hall on Bragg when I was stationed there.
Mon Jan 11, 2021, 10:15 AM
Jan 2021

I used to eat there every night before we drove home to our house in Hope Mills on The All American Highway.

Grins

(7,234 posts)
27. Career. Over!
Mon Jan 11, 2021, 10:30 AM
Jan 2021

If she had any thoughts about staying in the military for 20+ years - well that's over come her next OER. Poor performance is a sure way you will not be promoted nor retained. THIS is a whole other level on top of that!

WhiskeyGrinder

(22,448 posts)
31. If the media had focused on the Trump supporters in the military, board rooms and C-suites instead
Mon Jan 11, 2021, 10:40 AM
Jan 2021

of the local diners, they might not have been surprised.

turbinetree

(24,720 posts)
33. She just forgot to read that part to defend and protect the Constitution... but insurrection
Mon Jan 11, 2021, 10:43 AM
Jan 2021

and treason, sedition is just fine.................forfeit all pay, strip her of her command rank, and then throw her ass in jail............right along with Michael Flynn...........

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