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Finally
Hugin
(33,207 posts)Breakups are so bitter-sweet.
malaise
(269,182 posts)Lock him up!
Hugin
(33,207 posts)Or if it will just be SCREW IT.
wnylib
(21,614 posts)Last edited Mon Jan 11, 2021, 03:34 PM - Edit history (1)
co-chairman of Problem Solvers coalition, is already doing that. He made a rambling speech in Congress when they reconvened Wednesday night to complete the certification. He over-emoted about how much he loves the US and Congress and the military service of his relatives. He condemned the actions of the terrorists but never once even hinted that they were led by and incited by politicians in Congress and Donald Trump. He just spewed meaningless, safe words about opposing violence.
Then in the following days he released press statements and gave a news conference, which he does far more often than needed in order to keep his name in the public for his planned run as governor. It was infuriating to hear.
NY Congressman Tom Reed said that there was no need to restrain Donald Trump. Why? Because Trump had just given a statement condemning the people who perpetrated violence and seemed to half recognize that Congress had certified Biden. Therefore, Reed said that Trump posed no threat to the country. Reed opposed using the 25th or impeachment. "Not necessary" and "divisive." Trump has only a few days left and could do no harm to the country, nor is he likely to, according to Reed, who refused to admit that Trump incited the attack on the Capitol. He cinsidered the calls for impeachment to be unnecessary playing partisan politics with Wednesday's attack.
What else could we expect from someone who got into Congress on the 2010 Tea Party wave and now tries to distance himself from that connection as he projects a phony moderate image and calls Democrats "extremists."
Yet he was co-chairman for the 2020 campaign of the extremist Trump in NY. He was one of the first politicians in NY to endorse Trump from the start of Trump's campaign in 2016.
Reed is as phony as they come and skilled at gaslighting and Orwellian double speak.
Hugin
(33,207 posts)Oh, I'm so sorry for kicking democracy down the cellar stairs. Please, take me back I won't do it again. I promise. Just don't (report me) leave.
It's revolting and not becoming of anyone in a position of public trust.
SheltieLover
(57,073 posts)Well stated, Malaise!
Hassin Bin Sober
(26,343 posts)CaptYossarian
(6,448 posts)These climate-denying traitors would feel safe on a melting glacier.
Rudy would keep tucking his shirt in just to keep warm.
Me.
(35,454 posts)Hugin
(33,207 posts)Which is as it should be. Also, a discovery process!
madaboutharry
(40,223 posts)He needs to lose his law license.
Nevilledog
(51,201 posts)benfranklin1776
(6,449 posts)Participating in a crime like seditious conspiracy and exhorting imminent violence are definite grounds for disbarment under the New York Rules of Professional Conduct as no person who commits such execrable acts is fit to practice law.
Formal disciplinary proceedings which can result in disbarment after appropriate due process may be commenced after investigation and a hearing conducted upon the filing of a formal complaint with this official agency responsible for policing the profession:
http://ww2.nycourts.gov/attorneys/grievance/complaints.shtml
Renew Deal
(81,875 posts)Hortensis
(58,785 posts)vlyons
(10,252 posts)nt
mdbl
(4,976 posts)Is fraudulent speech or lying one of their rules? Inciting insurrections to subvert democracy or the constitution is ok? What the hell?
MyOwnPeace
(16,939 posts)he's still lousy!
doc03
(35,382 posts)CoryTrevor
(77 posts)Harker
(14,040 posts)calimary
(81,507 posts)Thats not the same as disbarment, though, is it?
If not, he should be disbarred there and anywhere else applicable.
Initech
(100,104 posts)George II
(67,782 posts)PWPippinesq
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VA_Jill
(9,999 posts)Now disbar his stupid ass. (Grandma continues to be outta fucks today)
bdamomma
(63,923 posts)the insurrection too. Disbar him or arrest him.
He did say "trial by combat" it can not get any clearer that that.
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2021/01/07/donald-trump-rudy-giuliani-capitol-riots-mob-criminal-charges/6588112002/
AllaN01Bear
(18,439 posts)BumRushDaShow
(129,535 posts)Rep. Bill Pascrell, Jr. got that process going with formal complaints.
By Kim Bellware
November 24, 2020 at 10:34 a.m. EST
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Rep. Bill Pascrell Jr. (D-N.J.) filed complaints on Friday in five states against Giuliani and 22 other lawyers working with the Trump campaign, calling for them to be stripped of their law licenses for filing frivolous lawsuits and allegedly engaging in conduct involving dishonesty, fraud, deceit, or misrepresentation.
Donald Trump has done great damage to this nation but he has always had helpers. These lawyers are enabling his treachery and harming our democracy, Pascrell told The Post through a spokesperson Monday. He called the campaign legal teams effort to overturn election results with frivolous lawsuits "misconduct and an affront to the rule of law.
Pascrell filed grievances with regulatory and disciplinary boards within the state bar associations in Arizona, Michigan, Nevada, Pennsylvania and Giulianis home state of New York.
Giuliani could not immediately be reached for comment but continued to make unsubstantiated claims of voter fraud and election theft during his daily talk-radio program on WABC on Monday.
More: https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2020/11/24/rudy-giuliani-disbar/
And noted that there would probably be some complicated process to adjudicate.
cab67
(3,009 posts)...that a presidential pardon overturns disbarment decisions. Which it doesn't.
Or that he can somehow pressure or sue the necessary governing bodies to have Giuliani's license reinstated if it ever does get yanked. Which he can't.
If the stakes weren't so damn serious, this whole thing would actually be funny.