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Inbox: New York State Bar Association moves to remove Rudy Giuliani from membership (Original Post) sunonmars Jan 2021 OP
Aw, they didn't leave him, he left them. Hugin Jan 2021 #1
Get thee to the greatest page malaise Jan 2021 #2
I wonder if they're going to have the we can still be friends talk. Hugin Jan 2021 #5
Tea Party Republican, Tom Reed of NY, wnylib Jan 2021 #33
We're now squarely in the cheap box of chocolates phase of the abuse cycle. Hugin Jan 2021 #34
What she said! 👆 SheltieLover Jan 2021 #9
Good. These people need to be shunned. Every one of them Hassin Bin Sober Jan 2021 #3
Deportation is the ultimate shunning. CaptYossarian Jan 2021 #15
Saying It Plainly...Does This Mean He Will Be Disbarred? Me. Jan 2021 #4
Maybe, after due-process. Hugin Jan 2021 #7
It is a professional organization, not the NY State Bar madaboutharry Jan 2021 #6
This 👆 Nevilledog Jan 2021 #13
I agree completely. benfranklin1776 Jan 2021 #21
No way, not the trial by combat guy! Renew Deal Jan 2021 #8
The NYSBA should be disbarred. nt Hortensis Jan 2021 #10
Does he lose his license to practice in NY? vlyons Jan 2021 #11
No. Nevilledog Jan 2021 #14
WTF! How much crap do you have to do to lose your license to practice law? mdbl Jan 2021 #23
All that practice hasn't worked..... MyOwnPeace Jan 2021 #22
They are a few years too late I think nt doc03 Jan 2021 #12
How is he not already behind bars?? CoryTrevor Jan 2021 #16
He seems to have spent plenty of time in front of them. n/t Harker Jan 2021 #19
Beautiful! calimary Jan 2021 #17
Play stupid games, win stupid prizes! Initech Jan 2021 #18
Wasn't he cited and suspended for not paying his dues? Or what that another state (PA, GA, etc.)? George II Jan 2021 #20
Oh, no! Who else is left to defend Trump so ably?! PWPippinesq Jan 2021 #24
This message was self-deleted by its author Chin music Jan 2021 #25
It's a start VA_Jill Jan 2021 #26
He incited bdamomma Jan 2021 #27
take away his right to practice law license . AllaN01Bear Jan 2021 #28
I posted the below regarding disbarrment yesterday BumRushDaShow Jan 2021 #29
Trump is probably delusional enough to believe... cab67 Jan 2021 #30
Way past time. dchill Jan 2021 #31
This should have happened AT LEAST five years ago FakeNoose Jan 2021 #32

Hugin

(33,207 posts)
5. I wonder if they're going to have the we can still be friends talk.
Mon Jan 11, 2021, 11:00 AM
Jan 2021

Or if it will just be SCREW IT.

wnylib

(21,614 posts)
33. Tea Party Republican, Tom Reed of NY,
Mon Jan 11, 2021, 01:41 PM
Jan 2021

Last edited Mon Jan 11, 2021, 03:34 PM - Edit history (1)

co-chairman of Problem Solvers coalition, is already doing that. He made a rambling speech in Congress when they reconvened Wednesday night to complete the certification. He over-emoted about how much he loves the US and Congress and the military service of his relatives. He condemned the actions of the terrorists but never once even hinted that they were led by and incited by politicians in Congress and Donald Trump. He just spewed meaningless, safe words about opposing violence.

Then in the following days he released press statements and gave a news conference, which he does far more often than needed in order to keep his name in the public for his planned run as governor. It was infuriating to hear.

NY Congressman Tom Reed said that there was no need to restrain Donald Trump. Why? Because Trump had just given a statement condemning the people who perpetrated violence and seemed to half recognize that Congress had certified Biden. Therefore, Reed said that Trump posed no threat to the country. Reed opposed using the 25th or impeachment. "Not necessary" and "divisive." Trump has only a few days left and could do no harm to the country, nor is he likely to, according to Reed, who refused to admit that Trump incited the attack on the Capitol. He cinsidered the calls for impeachment to be unnecessary playing partisan politics with Wednesday's attack.

What else could we expect from someone who got into Congress on the 2010 Tea Party wave and now tries to distance himself from that connection as he projects a phony moderate image and calls Democrats "extremists."
Yet he was co-chairman for the 2020 campaign of the extremist Trump in NY. He was one of the first politicians in NY to endorse Trump from the start of Trump's campaign in 2016.

Reed is as phony as they come and skilled at gaslighting and Orwellian double speak.

Hugin

(33,207 posts)
34. We're now squarely in the cheap box of chocolates phase of the abuse cycle.
Mon Jan 11, 2021, 01:51 PM
Jan 2021

Oh, I'm so sorry for kicking democracy down the cellar stairs. Please, take me back I won't do it again. I promise. Just don't (report me) leave.

It's revolting and not becoming of anyone in a position of public trust.

CaptYossarian

(6,448 posts)
15. Deportation is the ultimate shunning.
Mon Jan 11, 2021, 11:11 AM
Jan 2021

These climate-denying traitors would feel safe on a melting glacier.

Rudy would keep tucking his shirt in just to keep warm.

benfranklin1776

(6,449 posts)
21. I agree completely.
Mon Jan 11, 2021, 11:30 AM
Jan 2021

Participating in a crime like seditious conspiracy and exhorting imminent violence are definite grounds for disbarment under the New York Rules of Professional Conduct as no person who commits such execrable acts is fit to practice law.

Formal disciplinary proceedings which can result in disbarment after appropriate due process may be commenced after investigation and a hearing conducted upon the filing of a formal complaint with this official agency responsible for policing the profession:

http://ww2.nycourts.gov/attorneys/grievance/complaints.shtml

mdbl

(4,976 posts)
23. WTF! How much crap do you have to do to lose your license to practice law?
Mon Jan 11, 2021, 11:41 AM
Jan 2021

Is fraudulent speech or lying one of their rules? Inciting insurrections to subvert democracy or the constitution is ok? What the hell?

calimary

(81,507 posts)
17. Beautiful!
Mon Jan 11, 2021, 11:21 AM
Jan 2021

That’s not the same as disbarment, though, is it?
If not, he should be disbarred there and anywhere else applicable.

Response to sunonmars (Original post)

BumRushDaShow

(129,535 posts)
29. I posted the below regarding disbarrment yesterday
Mon Jan 11, 2021, 12:50 PM
Jan 2021
https://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1014&pid=2666064

Rep. Bill Pascrell, Jr. got that process going with formal complaints.

Congressman seeks to have Rudolph Giuliani disbarred over attempts to overturn election

By Kim Bellware
November 24, 2020 at 10:34 a.m. EST

(snip)

Rep. Bill Pascrell Jr. (D-N.J.) filed complaints on Friday in five states against Giuliani and 22 other lawyers working with the Trump campaign, calling for them to be stripped of their law licenses for filing “frivolous” lawsuits and allegedly engaging in “conduct involving dishonesty, fraud, deceit, or misrepresentation.”

“Donald Trump has done great damage to this nation — but he has always had helpers. These lawyers are enabling his treachery and harming our democracy,” Pascrell told The Post through a spokesperson Monday. He called the campaign legal team’s effort to overturn election results with frivolous lawsuits "misconduct and an affront to the rule of law.”

Pascrell filed grievances with regulatory and disciplinary boards within the state bar associations in Arizona, Michigan, Nevada, Pennsylvania and Giuliani’s home state of New York.

Giuliani could not immediately be reached for comment but continued to make unsubstantiated claims of voter fraud and election theft during his daily talk-radio program on WABC on Monday.

More: https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2020/11/24/rudy-giuliani-disbar/


And noted that there would probably be some complicated process to adjudicate.

cab67

(3,009 posts)
30. Trump is probably delusional enough to believe...
Mon Jan 11, 2021, 01:12 PM
Jan 2021

...that a presidential pardon overturns disbarment decisions. Which it doesn't.

Or that he can somehow pressure or sue the necessary governing bodies to have Giuliani's license reinstated if it ever does get yanked. Which he can't.

If the stakes weren't so damn serious, this whole thing would actually be funny.

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