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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region Forums"the press does not know how to handle untruths", Paul Krugman, commenting on the failure of the
Press to do their job on the untruths Romney told
Perhaps the most telling part of how disgraceful the republican party is, was that Peggy nunan, and matalin, said it was not the job of the press to report untruths, but Obama
Then I would ask what good is the press if they don't report the truth
xchrom
(108,903 posts)Point out the obvious.
Such is the state of our affairs.
Indpndnt
(2,391 posts)Then why are they there?! Giggles and grins?
Noonan and Matalin are even more twisted than I thought.
still_one
(92,219 posts)say is wow
porphyrian
(18,530 posts)If it means reporting lies, they do it and laugh about it all the way to the bank. Integrity in journalism is almost extinct. Meanwhile, many people still believe the news is fair and accurate (don't some networks claim that's what they are, after all?).
LiberalAndProud
(12,799 posts)It is their job to report fact and myth with equal standing. Why doesn't Krugman understand this?
Edit:
brush
(53,787 posts)WTF? Don't you realize how wrong you are? Their job is to expose myth (lies), not give it equal standing with the truth. Where'd you get your J-school degree, out of Crackerjack box?
OldDem2012
(3,526 posts)...that's the sound of sarcasm sailing over your head at 50,000 feet.
brush
(53,787 posts)And people are supposed to read your mind?
Ghost in the Machine
(14,912 posts)You can't tell tone and/or inflection in written words, but once you've read enough posts, and get to understand the online personalities of posters here, you'll understand it better...
Welcome to DU,...
Peace,
Ghost
LiberalAndProud
(12,799 posts)Overseas
(12,121 posts)And if you didn't, please read "What Liberal Media?" by Eric Alterman. It details the background of the Liberal Media myth and how it has been used and promoted by right wing think tanks for decades now.
Here's a summary article:
http://www.thenation.com/article/what-liberal-media#
LiberalAndProud
(12,799 posts)Indpndnt
(2,391 posts)It was very obvious without it.
JHB
(37,160 posts)...given how often jaw-droppingly appalling things are said and meant that way by the people who state them in this post-parody world.
Give the guy a pass and just use the sarcasm tag.
LiberalAndProud
(12,799 posts)My apologies to Brush.
brush
(53,787 posts)Why not just straight forward posts? Say what you mean. I guess that wouldn't be clever enough though.
Indpndnt
(2,391 posts)Try to open your mind and discover different styles of communicating. Then, you will get it and enjoy more than your own way of doing things. You're missing out on a lot, otherwise.
brush
(53,787 posts)Good communication doesn't lead to misunderstanding where I come from. There's nothing wrong with clarity.
Indpndnt
(2,391 posts)Not everyone needs to adapt to your way of communicating.
brush
(53,787 posts)But it would be nice if the posts are clear. In other words, if it's satire, use the satire icon. It's that simple.
Fumesucker
(45,851 posts)Some of us have been around the proverbial track more than a few times and the scenery gets boring after a while. For one thing no matter how hard you try to be "clear" there is always someone who will misinterpret what you say, sometimes even by accident.
There is no "satire" smilie, there is however a "sarcasm" one, like this .
I actually have an OP up in Meta about the gullibility of a lot of DUers, suffice it to say that if something just doesn't make sense then you should at least suspect that someone might be having a snark attack, it's pretty common around here. For instance anything by Third Way Manny should definitely not be taken at face value, although we probably won't see Third Way until after the election.
http://sync.democraticunderground.com/1240137023
iemitsu
(3,888 posts)and bosses and owners have always tended to be conservative but there used to be a lot more owners than there are now. and that circumstance worked to promote honest journalism.
people want the truth and they want accurate information. given choice, they will buy the product that best fulfills those needs.
today the media is owned by four mega-corporations and their interests are all the same. there is no choice.
these corporations have consolidated their holdings and now efficiently disseminate their homogenized news through partisan pundits.
we get no analysis except that which promotes corporate interests.
and, IMO, it has had a terrible effect on the thinking skills of average americans.
wishlist
(2,795 posts)Friday night ABC had a good report with Jonathan Karl at the Bureau of Labor Statistics. He concluded that comments suggesting the unemployment numbers had been rigged should be considered "crazy talk". He was also on the ABC morning talk show explaining that so many other economic trends were also showing improvement, while Mary Matalin held her head in her hands like her head would explode!
I don't know how the media could speak of Jack Welch as respected when he has been one of the most disgustingly rabid anti-Obama right wing ranters on CNBC for a long time now.
treestar
(82,383 posts)Then it should be just to show the debate and nothing else.
Why are we listening to their opinions if they make no effort at research?
Why isn't it Rmoney's job to tell the truth?
still_one
(92,219 posts)still_one
(92,219 posts)meow2u3
(24,764 posts)and just come out and tell the truth bluntly and without pulling any punches.
still_one
(92,219 posts)jerks name, but he yelled at the President, "you lie", which was a lie itself
Donkees
(31,417 posts)meanit
(455 posts)that everything is for sale, even the truth. Hence, if a news outlet is conservative owned, then they are entitled to sell their version (or non-version) of the "truth".
In the land of Conservatism there is no true or false, just conservative and liberal opinion, and money and power.
ncav53
(168 posts)Obama should now realize that the media is nothing more than a tool to use for your own benefit. These dummies in the media just parroted the "conventional wisdom" that Romney "won" and Obama "lost". To hell with the truth and fact-checking, let's just say Obama lost because he was looking down taking notes.