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dlk
(11,574 posts)Seriously?
sweetloukillbot
(11,045 posts)Deuxcents
(16,287 posts)Yesterday, he sang a different tune. Hes trying to be everything to his WV voters but he cant be counted on for anything.
SheltieLover
(57,073 posts)KPN
(15,647 posts)SheltieLover
(57,073 posts)jcgoldie
(11,635 posts)If they primary him they will lose the seat in the general. Joe Manchin at his worst is much better than josh hawley who beat blue dog claire mccaskill or whatever douchebag republican wins in West Virginia
JI7
(89,259 posts)Republicans that are considered "moderate".
jcgoldie
(11,635 posts)In my defense I still classify Susan Collins under whatever douchebag republican...
KPN
(15,647 posts)JonLP24
(29,322 posts)Paula Jean Swearingen won the 2020 Senate Primary. The runner-up was also progressive in his politics but she lost the general election badly. To be fair to Swearingen her opponent was the daughter of a popular West Virginia governor.
SheltieLover
(57,073 posts)Next time...
JI7
(89,259 posts)Budi
(15,325 posts)He plays this game often.
Both sides & to his base.
Celerity
(43,460 posts)safe atm, I figure 54 would have done it this time. 54 as you also have like 3 others besides him who lean to the moderate conservative (Manchin's own self description) side, in Sinema (for sure) and likely Kelly and Hickenlooper.
2022 is going to be a tough slog, as it is the first midterms for a Dem POTUS (historically a disaster for us, especially the last 2, 1994 and 2010), plus there are only 3 truly realistic great shots we have at pickups (open seats in NC and PA, plus that piece of dogshit Johnson in WI, Rubio in FL will be tougher and even if ancient Grassley rerires, IA is becoming pretty damn ruby red) but we have 4 at risk seats we have to defend as well (Warnock, then NV, NH, and Kelly in AZ, if the Rethugs find a decent candidate).
Primarying Manchin will not work, and IF the Rethugs take back the Senate in 2022, I can see him flipping to them in preparation for his re-election bid 2024.
marlakay
(11,480 posts)Big money to beat him.
berni_mccoy
(23,018 posts)Shell_Seas
(3,335 posts)Solly Mack
(90,778 posts)KPN
(15,647 posts)for someone with his views. We shouldnt make a move on any important legislation until we have all our goals and priorities solidified ... and have then involved him to find out what he wants/needs in return. Dont let the fucker nickle and dime us away from center-left. Find out whats most important to him and use it as leverage.
Budi
(15,325 posts)Seems like he's reiterating what's being shouted outloud.
Literally everywhere.
I even see it said here
BlueIdaho
(13,582 posts)I cant imagine being more out out of touch with this historic moment in our imperfect democracy. Shameful.
Cha
(297,421 posts)It's Not our Job to Coddle that Shit
kwolf68
(7,365 posts)My mom (Conservative Trumpist) just told me she liked Joe Manchin. And I heard Faux News playing in the background. I guess it's a start.
I don't have a problem having politicians like this in our party, but they should NOT be the primary spokespeople, especially if they are going to parrot right wing talking points which this guy typically does.
helpisontheway
(5,008 posts)RANDYWILDMAN
(2,673 posts)Rinse and repeat.
How long is it gonna take for WV to be woke ? Asking for a friend
Goodheart
(5,334 posts)And you know that.
You're a coward. You're opposed to punishing somebody who absolutely deserves punishment.
GeorgeGist
(25,322 posts)Midnight Writer
(21,771 posts)edhopper
(33,597 posts)when it reaches the Senate.
Baitball Blogger
(46,750 posts)Is that only for black and brown people?