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Hydra

(14,459 posts)
6. Why is being Pro-China a good thing?
Sun Oct 7, 2012, 03:38 PM
Oct 2012

Not that I think the TPTB are really against it- China is their hero on how to have capitalism work.

tarheelsunc

(2,117 posts)
7. Didn't you know?
Sun Oct 7, 2012, 03:50 PM
Oct 2012

You can't be pro-America unless you hate every other country in the world. Romney pretty much says as much in his official campaign, he believes in "American exceptionalism." This is a great country, but to believe it is absolutely better than every other country in the world as every single aspect is ignorant. This is why the Obama presidency has allowed us to regain a positive view among other countries, because he treats other countries as equals instead of our subordinates.

ProudToBeBlueInRhody

(16,399 posts)
14. There's a whole ad where Obama questions Rmoney's loyalty to America....
Sun Oct 7, 2012, 08:22 PM
Oct 2012

....in relation to his business dealings in China. It's quite effective too.

DainBramaged

(39,191 posts)
15. China is home to huge numbers of the denial of service attacks and hackers in the world
Sun Oct 7, 2012, 08:30 PM
Oct 2012

Eastern Europe is small potatoes in comparison to China



Pentagon hacked, Chinese Army suspected: report


If you live in China, don't even think of using the Internet to read up on Tiananmen Square or surf for porn. But if you want to take a shot at hacking into American military computer systems, there may be a place for you in the Chinese military. Reports are spreading that US government sources are confirming their beliefs that the Chinese military has "hacked" into Pentagon computer systems, including one that serves the office of Defense Secretary Robert Gates.

The story first appeared at the Financial Times, where an unidentified source is quoted as saying that there was a "very high level of confidence... trending towards total certainty" that the attacks were the responsibility of the People's Liberation Army. Although it doesn't appear that sensitive data was compromised, the report is troubling because it shows China can strike at even high-level military systems and even knock some offline (some Pentagon computers were off-network for a week after the attack).

Of course, the article rightly notes that the US itself is engaged in an international game of probing military networks around the globe, so this could be a tit-for-tat attempt at hacking. With secure networks now providing battlefield intelligence, live feeds from drone aircraft, and communications channels for much of the military, network warfare and defense are becoming increasingly crucial.

The threats don't always come from governments, either. Entire nations can have web services disrupted by criminals utilizing vast botnets to choke off access to government agencies or web sites. In fact, this appears to have happened to Estonia earlier this year when a massive DDoS attack kept several state sites down for multiple days. Suspicion in the Estonia attack focused quickly on Russia, with some NATO officials worried enough about the situation to journey to Estonia in order to "observe" the attack firsthand.


http://arstechnica.com/security/2007/09/chinese-military-accused-of-hacking-pentagon-computers/

zbdent

(35,392 posts)
8. They must be reading the RW talking points
Sun Oct 7, 2012, 04:58 PM
Oct 2012

which have some bogus, "Six degrees of Kevin Bacon" to make it all tie to Obama ...

DainBramaged

(39,191 posts)
10. The fear is justified, you think China looks out for our National interests?
Sun Oct 7, 2012, 07:57 PM
Oct 2012

Now we know where you stand.


China, worst at protecting copyrights, worst at counterfeiting, worst at intellectual theft, and you say it's the anti-China train?


http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0912/81610.html

DainBramaged

(39,191 posts)
11. The Real Problem With China
Sun Oct 7, 2012, 08:09 PM
Oct 2012

When China’s president, Hu Jintao, visits here next week, the exchange rate between Chinese and American currency will inevitably become a big topic of conversation.

China has been holding down the value of its currency, the renminbi, for years, making Chinese exports to the United States cheaper and American exports to China more expensive. The renminbi’s recent rise has been too modest to change the situation, and Mr. Hu’s state visit is sure to highlight the real tensions between the countries.

Yet the focus on the currency has nonetheless become excessive. The truth is that the exchange rate is not the main problem for American companies hoping to sell more products in China and, in the process, create more jobs in this country. The exchange rate does not need to be the focus of next week’s meetings.

For the United States, the No. 1 problem with China’s economy is probably intellectual property theft. Technology companies, for example, continue to notice Chinese government agencies downloading software updates for programs they have never bought, at least not legally.

http://www.nytimes.com/2011/01/12/business/economy/12leonhardt.html?_r=0

pampango

(24,692 posts)
12. If you substitute "the USSR" for "China", the "be afraid of China" mantra sounds like McCarthy and
Sun Oct 7, 2012, 08:19 PM
Oct 2012

the Red Scare of the early 1950's with his list of communists that worked for the US government and would undermine our way of life.

DainBramaged

(39,191 posts)
13. We didn't depend on the internet then for our way of life
Sun Oct 7, 2012, 08:21 PM
Oct 2012

You can compare all you'd like, the proof is real the threat is real.

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