David Frum: "The central concept in modern conservatism is victimhood."

[Nevilledog]

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McKay Coppins
@mckaycoppins
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Jan 11, 2021
It's remarkable how many on the right continue to place the burden of "healing" and "unity" on Joe Biden. You know Donald Trump is still president, right? And still lying to his supporters about the election being stolen? Maybe we should start there!

Kimberley Strassel
@KimStrassel
Imagine how helpful it would be if @JoeBiden were to show some grace, call on Democrats to stand down, practice the healing he keeps preaching. Why won't he?

McKay Coppins
@mckaycoppins
"The central concept in modern conservatism is victimhood. Responsibility, accountability—those are standards they apply to others, never to themselves. Even as they confront their stark record of complicity and culpability, they cannot absorb it."

Conservatism Reaches a Dead End
The movement has been led into a moral wreck by Trump.
theatlantic.com

https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2021/01/conservatism-reaches-dead-end/617629/

[turtleblossom]

1. No, it's white supremacy

Why else do they refer to themselves a conservatives. Exactly what are they're trying to conserve?

[hibbing]

4. This n/t

[JI7]

7. Yes, but it's connected . How they view themselves as Victims because they are white

[Mariana]

11. Yes, they do.

They've convinced themselves that they're persecuted for being (select all that apply): white, male, Christian, straight, southern, rural, US citizens, etc. etc. etc.

[Locrian]

20. yes

They cant stand "others" getting anything because it "hurts" them.
Never mind that it might benefit them as well - it takes away their feeling of superiority/privilege - and that is "hurting" or "evil" or "Un-American" or whatever to them.

[NEOBuckeye]

15. Victimhood Insecurity

Underlying everything is a sense of entitlement and deep insecurity about any threat posed to that sense.

[Montauk6]

16. I've wondered similarly about the term "Southern pride"

[Marie Marie]

2. Call on Democrats to stand down?????

She's kidding, right - right???? For her to use that phrasing for the Democrats takes elephantitis of the testicles.

[Phoenix61]

3. I used to counsel victims of domestic violence

I was always happy when they went from “If I hadn’t _____ he would’t have hit me” to “He hit be because he’s a batterer” They did bad things because they chose to. It’s not up to us to “heal” them or seek “unity” with them.

[Cha]

5. Fuck"unity" with the Gaslighting LIARS.

[Cha]

6. P.S. Kimberly Strassei is

Full of Elephant Shit.

[Buckeye_Democrat]

8. It's a big part of it now.

They also want to be "the deciders" about everything even when they're incompetent and poorly-educated boobs.

My past debates with them was like a teacher dealing with forever-skeptical and questioning students.

If I pointed out an error in their thinking, whether from lack of facts or logic, they'd just move onto another question for me without acknowledging their repeated fallibility. "Oh, yeah? Well, what about such-and-such?!"

They're exhausting.

Edit: They might as well have just said, "You're always the one on trial! Never us!"

[Dark n Stormy Knight]

9. Hey, Kimberley Strassel...

Never mind. I can't think of anything to say that could possibly get through that mind-bogglingly thick skull of yours.

[smirkymonkey]

10. Whiny little snowflakes!

They whole lot of them. They are all such little, baby whingers!

[DSandra]

12. Their M.O. is projection, they victimize others and make others responsible for things, but...

never themselves. They are about the slimiest, cunning, pathetic excuse of a human being, hurting others (especially innocent people) for self gain. They are the wheelchair thieves, the ones that steal from the beggar's coin jar, the ones that con grandma out of her savings. They are incredibly deplorable and should be treated as such.

[muriel_volestrangler]

13. Strassel: exhibit A in how the WSJ editorial section is a cesspit of stupidity and bad faith

She touts her book on her Twitter bio, which 'argues that the all-out "Resistance" has become dangerously reckless in its obstruction of President Trump'. No, really, the blurb still says

"Among the most consistent and aggressive criticisms of Donald Trump is that he is a threat to American democracy -- a human wrecking ball demolishing our most basic values and institutions. Resistance (At All Costs) makes the opposite case -- that it is Trump's critics, in their zeal to oppose the president, who are undermining our foundations."

She's still pumping out the lies and propaganda - the tweet thread goes on: "There are still tens of millions of conservatives still waiting for someone to be held "accountable" for three years of a Russia-collusion hoax--the Democrats' own effort to overturn the 2016 election."

What a piece of human excrement.

[FakeNoose]

14. They cannot win an election unless they cheat

Therefore the Repuke Party is perfectly OK with cheating. As a matter of fact, it's one of their cornerstones. Whatever lies they need to tell the "party faithful" are also perfectly OK and necessary. People who join the Repuke Party are faced with 2 options: either refuse to accept the lies and quit the party, or accept the lies and disbelieve their own eyes and ears.

[UTUSN]

17. K&R

[Ford_Prefect]

18. How very Passive-Aggressive of them...Quelle Surprise!!!

Now what should we do with bullies like them????

Offer them milk & cookies?

[Bernardo de La Paz]

19. It's an excellent read. Frum is a good writer. . . . nt

[JHB]

22. But he still puts most of the blame on Trump and only takes it back to 2008...

...which is still within the Trump timeline because he was king of the birthers.

But the Movement Conservatives have been wrapping this rope around the GOP's neck for 40 years.

[JHB]

21. David, Victimhood has been central to the Conservative Movement since...

...its very inception. Victimhood is part of the concrete mix of its foundation.

1952: Northeastern liberal Republicans stole the nomination from Taft and wrecked out big chance top reverse the New Deal!

1960: Daley stole Illinois for Kennedy! (Basic Math Newsflash: if Illinois had gone for Nixon, Kennedy still would have won)

1964: Another election stolen thanks to traitorous liberal Republicans who didn't vote for Goldwater!

Need I go on? There's plenty more where those come from, decades' worth.

[Klaralven]

23. Victimhood is a central concept of politics. It's a way to solidify group identity by blaming others

[Fortinbras Armstrong]

24. As I've said previously, repentance is necessary before one can have reconciliation

The Republicans haven't repented yet, and I'm not holding my breath until they do.