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HipChick

(25,485 posts)
Tue Jan 12, 2021, 02:57 AM Jan 2021

House Democrats Briefed On 3 Terrifying Plots To Overthrow Government...


WASHINGTON ― Capitol Police briefed Democrats on Monday night about three more potentially gruesome demonstrations planned in the coming days, with one plot to encircle the U.S. Capitol and assassinate Democrats and some Republicans.

On a private call Monday night, new leaders of the Capitol Police told House Democrats they were closely monitoring three separate plans that could pose serious threats to members of Congress as Washington prepares for Democrat Joe Biden’s presidential inauguration on Jan. 20.

The first is a demonstration billed as the “largest armed protest ever to take place on American soil.”

Another is a protest in honor of Ashli Babbitt, the woman killed while trying to climb into the Speaker’s Lobby during Wednesday’s pro-Trump siege of the Capitol.

And another demonstration, which three members said was by far the most concerning plot, would involve insurrectionists forming a perimeter around the Capitol, the White House and the Supreme Court, and then blocking Democrats from entering the Capitol ― perhaps even killing them ― so that Republicans could take control of the government

https://www.huffpost.com/entry/democrats-briefed-plot-overthrow-government_n_5ffd29a4c5b691806c4bf199?cte
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House Democrats Briefed On 3 Terrifying Plots To Overthrow Government... (Original Post) HipChick Jan 2021 OP
So, we now know their plans MagickMuffin Jan 2021 #1
Their minds have been poisoned beyond redemption DSandra Jan 2021 #9
Disgusting. And they've only made 100 arrests? SunSeeker Jan 2021 #2
Every single one should have been loaded into paddy wagons SheltieLover Jan 2021 #4
Right, the FBI has 37,000 employees. njhoneybadger Jan 2021 #5
Don't have any Congresspeople go to Congress during these days ... easy-peasy. mr_lebowski Jan 2021 #3
If they get enough people to even attempt this, I think they would need the military to put it down. RDANGELO Jan 2021 #6
Magats are bragging on their media wnylib Jan 2021 #12
Trump is a man of no conscience who will repeatedly and blatantly lie for is own benifit. RDANGELO Jan 2021 #13
We should have learned sooner. wnylib Jan 2021 #14
I still say Turin_C3PO Jan 2021 #15
And I still say that the notion wnylib Jan 2021 #16
You're right, they shouldn't be underestimated. Turin_C3PO Jan 2021 #17
Oh, we will defeat them. wnylib Jan 2021 #19
Yes. Turin_C3PO Jan 2021 #21
Once Biden is our president and wnylib Jan 2021 #22
Go big or stay home they say! Jesus! There's a chance those deep in Quackpot land won't even see brewens Jan 2021 #7
Fuck this, this is not THEIR America, America is for ALL OF US DSandra Jan 2021 #8
Since these fuckers are idiots, I hope some of us on our side can come up with traps DSandra Jan 2021 #10
It wouldn't be hard to impersonate one BigmanPigman Jan 2021 #11
I'm thinking Zoom superpatriotman Jan 2021 #18
Perpetrated by people who broke out in tears because they were on the No Fly List? tinrobot Jan 2021 #20

MagickMuffin

(15,949 posts)
1. So, we now know their plans
Tue Jan 12, 2021, 03:00 AM
Jan 2021

Therefore we surround them and shoot to kill if necessary!

I'm exhausted from all these insurrectionists.


DSandra

(999 posts)
9. Their minds have been poisoned beyond redemption
Tue Jan 12, 2021, 03:52 AM
Jan 2021

Thanks to decades of right wing programming, their minds are lost. They might as well be zombies.

SheltieLover

(57,073 posts)
4. Every single one should have been loaded into paddy wagons
Tue Jan 12, 2021, 03:03 AM
Jan 2021

& arrested! Not allowed to waltz off the grounds.

 

mr_lebowski

(33,643 posts)
3. Don't have any Congresspeople go to Congress during these days ... easy-peasy.
Tue Jan 12, 2021, 03:01 AM
Jan 2021

Then have about 200 sharpshooters posted on the roof of the Capitol Building.

Get too close ... your brain is splattered on the pavement.

Let's see how brave they are then.

RDANGELO

(3,433 posts)
6. If they get enough people to even attempt this, I think they would need the military to put it down.
Tue Jan 12, 2021, 03:34 AM
Jan 2021

I'm talking active duty not National Guard.

wnylib

(21,547 posts)
12. Magats are bragging on their media
Tue Jan 12, 2021, 06:13 AM
Jan 2021

that their "militia army" will be too large, strong, and well armed for any army to deal with.

I would expect to hear some Russian accents among the insurrectionists.

I feared something like this at least a year ago, but whenever I tried to wsrn about it, I was labelled an alarmist and a conspiracy theory promoter. My concerns were based on Trump's ego traits, behavior in office, and books by reliable authors like former Secretary of State Madeleine Albright on fascism and by Kathleen Belew on paramilitary RW organizations.

The usual response that I got was a very confident claim that American militia members were arm chair soldiers and overweight couch potatoes who were all talk and no action.

I wish they had been right. I believe that this insurrection will be put down, but we are in for some rough and violent times ahead before they are crushed.



RDANGELO

(3,433 posts)
13. Trump is a man of no conscience who will repeatedly and blatantly lie for is own benifit.
Tue Jan 12, 2021, 06:22 AM
Jan 2021

We have learned what damage a man like that can accomplish.

wnylib

(21,547 posts)
14. We should have learned sooner.
Tue Jan 12, 2021, 06:37 AM
Jan 2021

I never had any illusions about what he was capable of or who was supporting and aiding him. Maybe I had an edge on recognizing the danger since I once knew a malignant narcissist very well.

Turin_C3PO

(14,016 posts)
15. I still say
Tue Jan 12, 2021, 06:58 AM
Jan 2021

the vast majority of these play soldiers are cowards who wouldn’t dare shoot if there’s a chance they’d get shot back at or even arrested. Out of the thousands in the mob on Wednesday, I bet there were no more than maybe one hundred who were prepared to kill. That’s not to say this isn’t an urgent situation. It is. There are small elements within them who have advanced training and pose a real threat. But most of these idiots are untrained and don’t have what it takes to withstand a real war situation.

wnylib

(21,547 posts)
16. And I still say that the notion
Tue Jan 12, 2021, 07:39 AM
Jan 2021

of armed militias, many of whom are former military or current cops, are cowards is incredibly naive and poorly informed.

The videos from the Jan 6 riot show how aggressive and violent mob mentality is, and how willing to kill a large number of those people are. It's not necessary to be in a face to face shooting situation to take out people with the toss of a molotov cocktail or actual hand grenade. You don't need to be an expert sniper to fire into a crowd with a semi automatic. You can disable people with tear gas and tasers, which they have in their arsenal. Wearing combat quality protective armor provides a degree of confidence about one's own safety. Being zealously committed to a goal amps up adrenaline.

A group of rag tag Jewish survivors in the Warsaw ghetto in WWII held off the German military for over a month with smuggled weapons and home made bombs and ammunition. They did mot have heat, adequate clothing, or food. None of them were trained in combat prior to the Warsaw Uprising. All of them were civilian men, women, and children who learned to fight, invent, and coordinate their actions, holding off the Germans so others could smuggle children out through sewers.

They had nothing to lose since they were destined for transportation to death camps. It is amazing what people can accomplish when strongly motivated.

American militias and insurrectionists believe they are losing their way of life, freedoms, and rights. They are filled with the fanatic belief that they are revolutionary heroes, equivalent to George Washington's army. They believe that they have nothing to lose and have a mission to save the nation. They are strongly motivated and they have developed strategic planning.

It would be a much greater mistake to underestimate them than to overestimate them. Denial of a threat accomplishes nothing but false, feel good fuzzies. Facing a threat makes it possible to defeat it.

Turin_C3PO

(14,016 posts)
17. You're right, they shouldn't be underestimated.
Tue Jan 12, 2021, 07:52 AM
Jan 2021

They must be crushed and completely destroyed because they do have the potential to cause localized mayhem. All I’m saying is that if they think they can take out our government they are sorely mistaken.

wnylib

(21,547 posts)
19. Oh, we will defeat them.
Tue Jan 12, 2021, 08:39 AM
Jan 2021

I am sure of that. But it will be costly in lives, infrastructure, and the need to divert time, money, and attention to them.

I strongly suspect that they are being aided by foreign support in strategy and agents. When we defeat them, they must be crushed thoroughly, with no mercy. Same for any nation that abets them.

Turin_C3PO

(14,016 posts)
21. Yes.
Tue Jan 12, 2021, 08:42 AM
Jan 2021

I think we need to hit Russia hard. Not by attacking them militarily, obviously, but other strong measures that can be taken. I believe they amplify and create many of the conspiracy theories that proliferate on right wing websites.

wnylib

(21,547 posts)
22. Once Biden is our president and
Tue Jan 12, 2021, 08:46 AM
Jan 2021

Last edited Tue Jan 12, 2021, 10:20 AM - Edit history (1)

restores relations with our allies, we can work together multilaterally to cripple Russia. Maybe repay Putin by fostering a coup against him in return.

brewens

(13,605 posts)
7. Go big or stay home they say! Jesus! There's a chance those deep in Quackpot land won't even see
Tue Jan 12, 2021, 03:42 AM
Jan 2021

this and show up anyway. If all they watch is OAN, some of them won't know they're onto them.

DSandra

(999 posts)
8. Fuck this, this is not THEIR America, America is for ALL OF US
Tue Jan 12, 2021, 03:51 AM
Jan 2021

If they want to take it for themselves, every damn means of fighting back should be done!

DSandra

(999 posts)
10. Since these fuckers are idiots, I hope some of us on our side can come up with traps
Tue Jan 12, 2021, 03:58 AM
Jan 2021

Either traps to find out the plotters, traps to restrain or thwart potential participants from leaving their hometown, traps to screw them when they enter Washington, etc... Hacks are also welcome.

BigmanPigman

(51,615 posts)
11. It wouldn't be hard to impersonate one
Tue Jan 12, 2021, 06:00 AM
Jan 2021

since they look so similar (beard, cap, backpacks, white male). I read that there were plains clothes cops at the insurrection.

tinrobot

(10,909 posts)
20. Perpetrated by people who broke out in tears because they were on the No Fly List?
Tue Jan 12, 2021, 08:39 AM
Jan 2021

Most of them are not coming back. Doubtful you will see crowds that size again.

That said, we must absolutely be vigilant and have the National Guard in place.

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