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DonViejo

(60,536 posts)
Tue Jan 12, 2021, 10:24 AM Jan 2021

This chaotic moment has one root cause: Trump's refusal to accept his loss



Jan. 12, 2021, 9:08 AM EST

By Chuck Todd, Mark Murray, Carrie Dann and Melissa Holzberg

WASHINGTON — The president begging Georgia’s secretary of state to overturn the election results … More than 140 House and Senate Republicans objecting to the Electoral College count … Trump addressing supporters in Washington (“You will have an illegitimate president … And we can't let that happen.”) … Many of those supporters later storming the Capitol … Trump saying that he won’t attend the inauguration (and getting banned from Twitter) … The drafting of articles of impeachment … And now authorities warning of more armed protests.

All of these events have taken place in just the last 10 days.

And of all them have a simple root cause — the president of the United States refusing to concede an election he clearly lost. (Yes, he acknowledged there would be a new administration and a transition of power, but that’s as far as he’s gone.)

If Trump conceded an election in which he got 7 million fewer votes than his opponent, you wouldn’t have had a president begging state elections officials to overturn election results … You wouldn’t have seen as many GOP senators and members of Congress objecting to the Electoral College count … You wouldn’t have had a president addressing a “Stop the Steal” rally … You wouldn’t have had rioters storming the Capitol… You wouldn’t have had a second round of impeachment … And you wouldn’t have had the warnings of more armed protests — at least on this scale.

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This chaotic moment has one root cause: Trump's refusal to accept his loss (Original Post) DonViejo Jan 2021 OP
1-1/14 of a week left. no_hypocrisy Jan 2021 #1
trump couldn't do this on his own. elected republicans supported trumps refusal to concede. Merlot Jan 2021 #2
But Hillary waited 5 minutes to call and congratulate Trump in 2016. So, pretty much the same thing. Make7 Jan 2021 #3
In his mind he's never lost before... TreasonousBastard Jan 2021 #4

Merlot

(9,696 posts)
2. trump couldn't do this on his own. elected republicans supported trumps refusal to concede.
Tue Jan 12, 2021, 10:40 AM
Jan 2021

republicans who didn't immediately acknowledge trumps loss gave him the support he needed.

trump will be gone but enabling republicans will still be here. They will continue to damag our democracy unless held accountable.

Make7

(8,543 posts)
3. But Hillary waited 5 minutes to call and congratulate Trump in 2016. So, pretty much the same thing.
Tue Jan 12, 2021, 10:45 AM
Jan 2021

Republicans are just following the precedent set by Democrats.

Like in 2005 when a single Representative and a single Senator objected to the electoral votes from Ohio. Not to change the outcome of the election, as they repeatedly stated, but to highlight voting irregularities and call for election reform in a forum unable to be ignored. This year is virtually an identical situation, right?

TreasonousBastard

(43,049 posts)
4. In his mind he's never lost before...
Tue Jan 12, 2021, 10:50 AM
Jan 2021

Bankrupt casinos? He was smart enough to get out before the industry downturn.

Failure to get NBC to move uptown? NBC was too stupid to know what good deal he was offering.

He never, ever loses. He always comes up with a "win".

A bullshit win-- just a bragging point.

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