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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsThe far right will not win this showdown. They count on overwhelming apathy and indifference
In other words, they depend on "good men doing nothing in order for evil to succeed." As long as fascism just kept creeping forward, rather than full frontal rearing it's ugly head, it was well on its way toward victory. But beating cops to death with American flags doesn't play so well on national TV, and in order for the right to seize power and/or at the very least totally destabilize our government, they are going to have to do a lot more than murder a few cops. If and when they do, those acts will be met with wide scale revulsion.
The Oklahoma City bombing, which happened inside one of the reddest of states in America, didn't usher in the start of a right wing revolution, instead it set those "efforts" back. Until Trump took office there was a much greater federal emphasis on combating right wing extremism in the wake of the Oklahoma City bombing. The rise of Islamic extremist jihadists blurred that focus somewhat, and then Trump buried it, but the more violent the right becomes now the more it will turn average Americans against it. The far right has been flushed out of hiding now, the shadows that they gathered in are being hit by spotlights. They increasingly are pushed toward violence because the political cover that allowed them to organize openly is being stripped away with the return of Democratic control of the Federal Government. Their plans are being revealed so they must rush to execute whichever ones they still can, but those are premature by at least a couple of years. The far right ate the Republican Party but didn't get time to fully digest it. They were counting on a second Trump term as President to consolidate their hold over national security, over the Justice Department, over the FBI, over law enforcement at local levels.
Even corporate America is peddling furiously away from any possible linkage to the far right now. Corporate America has thrived in America as we have come to know it, so it does not welcome dramatic wide scale social unrest that severely rocks the boat they are cruising on. The far right can't afford to go dormant now while a Biden appointed Attorney General goes full steam against them, they have to play their cards now before more of their members are rounded up. That means increased violence of the sort that will sicken most Americans, which will serve to isolate the extreme far right, spurring their neighbors and co-workers to turn them in. FBI Tip lines are already burning up, but it's just the beginning. Extremists can terrorize Americans for a time, but they will be buried under the backlash to any carnage that they cause.
fearnobush
(3,960 posts)Beating cops to death with them.
Gotta respect the GOPs hate for America. They truly are Profacsa
Voltaire2
(13,095 posts)they could very well win next time.
If their plan is to attack all 50 state capitols, which is entirely possible, they could very well occupy and control a significant number of state capitols by the 20th and use those buildings to install their own legislatures and create a rump fascist government. It could take weeks to suppress that mess, and it is still unclear how much support they have at all levels of law enforcement and in the state and national military organizations.
They are not a joke.
Tom Rinaldo
(22,913 posts)If Americans, on the whole, back away from forcefully confronting them, literally as well as figuratively, they very well could succeed. I assume that they do have some support at all levels of law enforcement and in the state and national military organizations. I assume there will be some armed showdowns. If sane America blinks we probably will lose. If we don't, they will.
Archae
(46,340 posts)It's no wonder the tinfoil-hat crowds, white supremacists, and other radical right-wingers are getting active more and more.
https://www.mediamatters.org/grant-stinchfield/newsmax-host-democrats-are-ones-seeking-coup
https://www.mediamatters.org/newsmax/newsmax-host-calls-joe-biden-be-impeached-over-non-existent-election-fraud
Tom Rinaldo
(22,913 posts)But I know that's just wishful thinking and not wanting to face reality. I've known ever since Bundy was able to pretty much get away with his armed seizure of public property that more armed show downs were inevitable. We expect our military to take casualties, even thousands of them, in order to preserve our democracy. I'm afraid that it will take civilian casualties also now before it can be preserved.
Archae
(46,340 posts)I watched 8 years of the Obama-hatred, beginning with the "Birther" bullshit.
(Which is still going on, BTW.)
Right-wingers latched on to any and every wild rumor, lie, innuendo and conspiracy theory during that time.