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Stinky The Clown

(67,812 posts)
Tue Jan 12, 2021, 04:29 PM Jan 2021

Like stink on shit, the FBI is ALL OVER the invasion. Grand juries. More charges to come.

This is just the beginning

Sedition and conspiracy charges

Calling in specialized prosecutors.

Underscore that this is only the beginning.

Strike force for attacks on the media

The guys doing the briefing are amped up! Sounding like they really want to get everyone involved.



edit to add: This is from the FBI Press Conference at 3.15 EST

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Like stink on shit, the FBI is ALL OVER the invasion. Grand juries. More charges to come. (Original Post) Stinky The Clown Jan 2021 OP
And Barr's not there to shut it down leftieNanner Jan 2021 #1
And there's the key words right there.... Raster Jan 2021 #2
Hmmm... wonder if that's why he left. grumpyduck Jan 2021 #3
no doubt CatWoman Jan 2021 #8
You Got It sfdennis1 Jan 2021 #12
Yup StarfishSaver Jan 2021 #32
THAT..... MyOwnPeace Jan 2021 #62
He was probably in some meetings where the coup was brought up, Lonestarblue Jan 2021 #58
I believe that Barr knew what was wnylib Jan 2021 #25
Merrrick Garland, disndat Jan 2021 #28
They are malaise Jan 2021 #4
So well put! Haaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa Miigwech Jan 2021 #33
Saying they will be using investigative tools they use with international terrorists Stinky The Clown Jan 2021 #5
GOOD!!! They ARE terrorists! Raster Jan 2021 #10
Saying they are doing lower charges to just to get these people on the hook. Bigger charges to come. Stinky The Clown Jan 2021 #11
Talk is cheap njhoneybadger Jan 2021 #6
And yet, here you are, talking ... StarfishSaver Jan 2021 #34
You got me njhoneybadger Jan 2021 #37
This made me chuckle, and you did a nice job of responding with humor instead of anger KS Toronado Jan 2021 #54
We're all on the same side njhoneybadger Jan 2021 #57
lol CatWoman Jan 2021 #7
With Trump's political goons out of the way pfitz59 Jan 2021 #9
They have hundreds of thousands pieces on information. Stinky The Clown Jan 2021 #14
Lots of career civil servants smiling today russiamommy Jan 2021 #47
I feel good about this. And I bet the FBI is just itching to prove itself after Trump. Auggie Jan 2021 #13
That's how I feel, too. StarfishSaver Jan 2021 #35
Ditto Gore1FL Jan 2021 #67
And they'll start bringing charges AFTER Jan 20 to avoid the last remaining fierywoman Jan 2021 #15
I'm surprised Trump did not fire Wray. Nt helpisontheway Jan 2021 #16
Agreed. I am too. Stinky The Clown Jan 2021 #17
He still has a week. niyad Jan 2021 #19
Won't matter.... paleotn Jan 2021 #39
He'll be right back in a week. 2naSalit Jan 2021 #60
McCabe said that it sounded like they were mobeau69 Jan 2021 #18
No explanation of why the Cap Po got caught with their pants down. maxsolomon Jan 2021 #24
The short guy was a nervous freaking wreck. mobeau69 Jan 2021 #31
Because Trump intervened to make wnylib Jan 2021 #50
This is where my mind is at, too. maxsolomon Jan 2021 #52
An important part of their job is to "sell their work" StarfishSaver Jan 2021 #36
The public needs to know they're doing their job. mobeau69 Jan 2021 #40
I think they were try to reassure the public that they weren't fucking around. Hotler Jan 2021 #55
Nobody can shut this down CanonRay Jan 2021 #20
These guys don't play. liberalmuse Jan 2021 #21
All over it like grease on opossum gravy. n/t spike jones Jan 2021 #22
Hindsight is 20/20! maxsolomon Jan 2021 #23
They're all about to feel paleotn Jan 2021 #26
All he had to was concede Roc2020 Jan 2021 #27
Let's not forget Traildogbob Jan 2021 #29
Good point!! SunSeeker Jan 2021 #44
Can Trump just issue a blanket pardon and undermine all the arrests? dutch777 Jan 2021 #30
I don't think he can StarfishSaver Jan 2021 #38
I hope you are right...of course, he would have to care about these people dutch777 Jan 2021 #42
Exactly - another reason I don't think he will StarfishSaver Jan 2021 #45
He Said He Loved Them Remember? DanieRains Jan 2021 #53
Yeah, but there was a footnote to that in fine print..."As long as you keep sending me money". dutch777 Jan 2021 #56
His lawyers already told him he can't pardon himself do to making it easier to prove liability yaesu Jan 2021 #48
His best play is to resign now and let Pence pardon him...but he can't see past his anger dutch777 Jan 2021 #51
Even if he could pardon for current charges, Denzil_DC Jan 2021 #61
You should add a link to the video from the presser in your OP. It's only 22 minutes long. SunSeeker Jan 2021 #41
I want to see Nuremberg style trials. Initech Jan 2021 #43
OH, how I hope these lofty ideals translate into equivalent action. BobTheSubgenius Jan 2021 #46
Twittersphere was critical of the low-level briefing, but I'm thinking there were good reasons 4 it bucolic_frolic Jan 2021 #49
If this is true... SpankMe Jan 2021 #59
i wonder how many open cells there are at the supermax or gitmo.... rdking647 Jan 2021 #63
hope these go all the way to the top, trump. AllaN01Bear Jan 2021 #64
Sorry but I'm somewhat new to DU LibfromtheNorth Jan 2021 #65
What an awesome idea. byronius Jan 2021 #69
The $50,000 reward for the pipe bomb planter was a surprise. Vinca Jan 2021 #66
I bet they're saving the best for last. dchill Jan 2021 #68
My gods I hope so Hekate Jan 2021 #70

leftieNanner

(15,135 posts)
1. And Barr's not there to shut it down
Tue Jan 12, 2021, 04:31 PM
Jan 2021

Glad to hear that the FBI is on this.

As soon as we have a new AG, let's get these white supremacist groups on the Terrorist Watch List.

sfdennis1

(31 posts)
12. You Got It
Tue Jan 12, 2021, 04:42 PM
Jan 2021

Abso-phukking-lutely that RAT saw the sedition and insurrection on the horizon and 'noped' out of there while the getting was good. Trying to save his own hide. But all the "prior atrocities" were AOK in his book....What an endless tar pit of human garbage Dump's supporters prove themselves to be, time and time again.....

MyOwnPeace

(16,934 posts)
62. THAT.....
Tue Jan 12, 2021, 06:27 PM
Jan 2021

is a classic and TRUE statement for sure!
And who ever would have predicted that "the line" would be SO FAR down that F-ing road?
Seriously, think about it - we're "thinking" that even BarrBarrHut has some line that has been crossed?

Lonestarblue

(10,030 posts)
58. He was probably in some meetings where the coup was brought up,
Tue Jan 12, 2021, 05:59 PM
Jan 2021

and decided that was a step too far for him. Barr was smart enough to avoid being part of the insurrection.

wnylib

(21,528 posts)
25. I believe that Barr knew what was
Tue Jan 12, 2021, 05:10 PM
Jan 2021

planned and resigned in order to avoid criminal charges for the attempted coup.

pfitz59

(10,382 posts)
9. With Trump's political goons out of the way
Tue Jan 12, 2021, 04:38 PM
Jan 2021

The Professionals have a lot of scores to settle. Trump and his allies made a big mistake belittling and undermining career investigators.

russiamommy

(244 posts)
47. Lots of career civil servants smiling today
Tue Jan 12, 2021, 05:29 PM
Jan 2021

They have been used and abused for four years. Time to let them do their jobs. They’ll finally be able to. Hallelujah.

paleotn

(17,931 posts)
39. Won't matter....
Tue Jan 12, 2021, 05:19 PM
Jan 2021

They're all Spartacus now. Then again, he may just ignore him. Practically speaking, there's not a damn thing Donnie can do about that.

2naSalit

(86,682 posts)
60. He'll be right back in a week.
Tue Jan 12, 2021, 06:13 PM
Jan 2021

Not that it would matter as I feel confident Wray isn't going anywhere.

mobeau69

(11,149 posts)
18. McCabe said that it sounded like they were
Tue Jan 12, 2021, 04:54 PM
Jan 2021

“selling” their work more than just providing facts. I had the same feeling. Reminded me of trump bragging about “accomplishments”.

maxsolomon

(33,345 posts)
24. No explanation of why the Cap Po got caught with their pants down.
Tue Jan 12, 2021, 05:09 PM
Jan 2021

FBI saying "well, we told the JTTF"... Yippee skippee; why wasn't the US Government ready to protect the Capitol?

wnylib

(21,528 posts)
50. Because Trump intervened to make
Tue Jan 12, 2021, 05:32 PM
Jan 2021

sure that the Capitol police and the Guard stood down.

Mayor Bowser did not want the Guard actively involved in the beginning out of concern for two things: 1) the way the Guard acted in the BLM protests, and 2) the possibility that Trump would declare an emergency and use the Guard to "establish order" his way.

Bad as it was, think what could have happened if Trump had used the Guard from the start, to aid the coup. Several legislators could have been killed.

Bowser's understanding was that the Capitol police would provide sufficient protection and call on the DC police for cooperative help if overwhelmed. She offered their help but Sund turned it down, said he had it under control.

Bowser's agreement was that the Guard would be called in as backup if, and as soon as, it appeared to be necessary. That's when the Pentagon refused all requests for Guard help, on Trump's orders.

So, the Capitol police did not have enough officers to handle the situation, intentionally it seems, since Sund lied that they had it covered. He refused help from the DC police in the beginning and did not call for them when it was obvious that they were needed. Then Trump refused to allow the Pentagon to use the Guard.

In other words, the whole thing was planned from the top on down. I heard a former Capitol cop saying that, in those words during an interview this morning on NPR's A1 program, based on his experience of who makes decisions, when, and how.

 

StarfishSaver

(18,486 posts)
36. An important part of their job is to "sell their work"
Tue Jan 12, 2021, 05:17 PM
Jan 2021

The public needs to have a sense that they're doing their jobs and are protecting us. I don't blame them for doing a little cheerleading.

Hotler

(11,431 posts)
55. I think they were try to reassure the public that they weren't fucking around.
Tue Jan 12, 2021, 05:39 PM
Jan 2021

And help the public understand the process. That way when the press write it doesn't sound like they are slow walking justice.

paleotn

(17,931 posts)
26. They're all about to feel
Tue Jan 12, 2021, 05:11 PM
Jan 2021

the full power of federal law enforcement and Judiciary. Acting DC AG stated today we will be shocked by who's involved in this.

Roc2020

(1,616 posts)
27. All he had to was concede
Tue Jan 12, 2021, 05:12 PM
Jan 2021

swallow his pride and all this would have been avoided. Now the full weight of the U.S investigative institutions will crash down on Trump his enablers and the traitors who stormed the capital. wowee

Traildogbob

(8,770 posts)
29. Let's not forget
Tue Jan 12, 2021, 05:13 PM
Jan 2021

DOD refused to allow new admin to have access to meetings or intel for weeks before the attack. A DOD Under the guidance of a 30 year idiot just appointed by trump the head the department. Ya think there was some things that needed to be secret. Firing squad!!!!! Enough of this treasonous GOP attack on the country. Unit, come together, let by Gones be. Fuck that, treat this just like 9-11. Hunt them alldobe, find them in their hide outs, congress people like included. If they resist arrest, we give an O Bin Ladin hello. And burial at sea so trumpets can not have a martyr site to worship.
We were attacked, more coming, just like the Japanese did on our soil. No uniting. Justice needs to happen first.

dutch777

(3,027 posts)
30. Can Trump just issue a blanket pardon and undermine all the arrests?
Tue Jan 12, 2021, 05:13 PM
Jan 2021

I wonder if it wouldn't be prudent to juts investigate, locate and surveil the miscreants but not actually arrest and charge until after Trump is gone.

 

StarfishSaver

(18,486 posts)
38. I don't think he can
Tue Jan 12, 2021, 05:19 PM
Jan 2021

Who would he pardon and for what crimes - and how would he even describe it in a pardon?

I think it would be too vague and nebulous for a court to rule it valid.

dutch777

(3,027 posts)
42. I hope you are right...of course, he would have to care about these people
Tue Jan 12, 2021, 05:22 PM
Jan 2021

That's a long shot but I could see him try just to thumb his nose at Nancy and Co.

 

StarfishSaver

(18,486 posts)
45. Exactly - another reason I don't think he will
Tue Jan 12, 2021, 05:27 PM
Jan 2021

It doesn't help him.

The only reason to do it would be as a poke in the eye to law enforcement and Congress. But, by all accounts, he's also disgusted with the rioters because they didn't achieve his goal of stopping the count and they looked "low-class." So he's probably lost interest in them and doesn't care what happens to them now.

yaesu

(8,020 posts)
48. His lawyers already told him he can't pardon himself do to making it easier to prove liability
Tue Jan 12, 2021, 05:29 PM
Jan 2021

if sued in the future so tRump is pissed & refuses to pardon anymore if he can't get one.

dutch777

(3,027 posts)
51. His best play is to resign now and let Pence pardon him...but he can't see past his anger
Tue Jan 12, 2021, 05:34 PM
Jan 2021

Of course, if I were Pence and got s**t on increasingly over the last four years, I'd nod about giving a pardon but then after he resigns and I am sworn in I wouldn't do it. Let Trump swing in the wind for a change.

Denzil_DC

(7,246 posts)
61. Even if he could pardon for current charges,
Tue Jan 12, 2021, 06:22 PM
Jan 2021

they've indicated these are just relatively minor ones pro tem, with the possiblity of heavier ones to follow. I don't think even Trump can pardon random assholes for crimes not yet charged.

Initech

(100,088 posts)
43. I want to see Nuremberg style trials.
Tue Jan 12, 2021, 05:24 PM
Jan 2021

We need to who was involved, why they were involved, why it got so bad, and the people who were involved need to be punished to the maximum extent of the law. This should not be allowed to stand, and no one involved should get to walk away without consequences.

bucolic_frolic

(43,228 posts)
49. Twittersphere was critical of the low-level briefing, but I'm thinking there were good reasons 4 it
Tue Jan 12, 2021, 05:30 PM
Jan 2021

Such as it takes time, perhaps half a day to prepare and be sure of not giving out too much, and there are high level things to do, and the press wants to know so much more, everything, when the top brass is there.

SpankMe

(2,959 posts)
59. If this is true...
Tue Jan 12, 2021, 06:04 PM
Jan 2021

...then it sounds like the career FBI investigators and staff are finally able to properly investigate crimes like this since there's no Barr at the top. They're behaving like they're already working for Merrick Garland. With so few days left of a Trump administration, it sounds like there's no oppressive leadership at the top of DoJ to temper a full attack on these seditionists.

LibfromtheNorth

(39 posts)
65. Sorry but I'm somewhat new to DU
Tue Jan 12, 2021, 06:33 PM
Jan 2021

I'm just curious, will DU be providing bingo cards with all the usual suspects or do I have to get them myself?

Thanks,

byronius

(7,396 posts)
69. What an awesome idea.
Wed Jan 13, 2021, 02:23 AM
Jan 2021

Gosh, I'd chip in.

Maybe a self-printable photo with sentence and prison at the bottom --

Really, well done.

Vinca

(50,299 posts)
66. The $50,000 reward for the pipe bomb planter was a surprise.
Tue Jan 12, 2021, 06:36 PM
Jan 2021

A Trumphumper could build their own meth lab for that kind of money so the name will be forthcoming.

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