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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsLike stink on shit, the FBI is ALL OVER the invasion. Grand juries. More charges to come.
This is just the beginning
Sedition and conspiracy charges
Calling in specialized prosecutors.
Underscore that this is only the beginning.
Strike force for attacks on the media
The guys doing the briefing are amped up! Sounding like they really want to get everyone involved.
edit to add: This is from the FBI Press Conference at 3.15 EST
leftieNanner
(15,135 posts)Glad to hear that the FBI is on this.
As soon as we have a new AG, let's get these white supremacist groups on the Terrorist Watch List.
Raster
(20,998 posts)grumpyduck
(6,240 posts)He saw it coming?
CatWoman
(79,302 posts)sfdennis1
(31 posts)Abso-phukking-lutely that RAT saw the sedition and insurrection on the horizon and 'noped' out of there while the getting was good. Trying to save his own hide. But all the "prior atrocities" were AOK in his book....What an endless tar pit of human garbage Dump's supporters prove themselves to be, time and time again.....
StarfishSaver
(18,486 posts)You know it's gone to far when even Barr can't cross that line.
MyOwnPeace
(16,934 posts)is a classic and TRUE statement for sure!
And who ever would have predicted that "the line" would be SO FAR down that F-ing road?
Seriously, think about it - we're "thinking" that even BarrBarrHut has some line that has been crossed?
Lonestarblue
(10,030 posts)and decided that was a step too far for him. Barr was smart enough to avoid being part of the insurrection.
wnylib
(21,528 posts)planned and resigned in order to avoid criminal charges for the attempted coup.
disndat
(1,887 posts)if confirmed . Sweet justice.
malaise
(269,096 posts)FUCKED!
Miigwech
(3,741 posts)Nassy be dem!
Stinky The Clown
(67,812 posts)Raster
(20,998 posts)Stinky The Clown
(67,812 posts)njhoneybadger
(3,910 posts)StarfishSaver
(18,486 posts)njhoneybadger
(3,910 posts)KS Toronado
(17,282 posts)njhoneybadger
(3,910 posts)CatWoman
(79,302 posts)they're not fucking around
pfitz59
(10,382 posts)The Professionals have a lot of scores to settle. Trump and his allies made a big mistake belittling and undermining career investigators.
Stinky The Clown
(67,812 posts)Clint Watts says that's massive
russiamommy
(244 posts)They have been used and abused for four years. Time to let them do their jobs. Theyll finally be able to. Hallelujah.
Auggie
(31,177 posts)StarfishSaver
(18,486 posts)Gore1FL
(21,134 posts)I felt confidence after the briefing.
fierywoman
(7,686 posts)tRump sycophants?
helpisontheway
(5,008 posts)Stinky The Clown
(67,812 posts)niyad
(113,474 posts)paleotn
(17,931 posts)They're all Spartacus now. Then again, he may just ignore him. Practically speaking, there's not a damn thing Donnie can do about that.
2naSalit
(86,682 posts)Not that it would matter as I feel confident Wray isn't going anywhere.
mobeau69
(11,149 posts)selling their work more than just providing facts. I had the same feeling. Reminded me of trump bragging about accomplishments.
maxsolomon
(33,345 posts)FBI saying "well, we told the JTTF"... Yippee skippee; why wasn't the US Government ready to protect the Capitol?
mobeau69
(11,149 posts)wnylib
(21,528 posts)sure that the Capitol police and the Guard stood down.
Mayor Bowser did not want the Guard actively involved in the beginning out of concern for two things: 1) the way the Guard acted in the BLM protests, and 2) the possibility that Trump would declare an emergency and use the Guard to "establish order" his way.
Bad as it was, think what could have happened if Trump had used the Guard from the start, to aid the coup. Several legislators could have been killed.
Bowser's understanding was that the Capitol police would provide sufficient protection and call on the DC police for cooperative help if overwhelmed. She offered their help but Sund turned it down, said he had it under control.
Bowser's agreement was that the Guard would be called in as backup if, and as soon as, it appeared to be necessary. That's when the Pentagon refused all requests for Guard help, on Trump's orders.
So, the Capitol police did not have enough officers to handle the situation, intentionally it seems, since Sund lied that they had it covered. He refused help from the DC police in the beginning and did not call for them when it was obvious that they were needed. Then Trump refused to allow the Pentagon to use the Guard.
In other words, the whole thing was planned from the top on down. I heard a former Capitol cop saying that, in those words during an interview this morning on NPR's A1 program, based on his experience of who makes decisions, when, and how.
maxsolomon
(33,345 posts)But I want to hear it from AHJ.
StarfishSaver
(18,486 posts)The public needs to have a sense that they're doing their jobs and are protecting us. I don't blame them for doing a little cheerleading.
mobeau69
(11,149 posts)Hotler
(11,431 posts)And help the public understand the process. That way when the press write it doesn't sound like they are slow walking justice.
CanonRay
(14,108 posts)The FBIs smell blood in the water. Crap your pants MAGATS
liberalmuse
(18,672 posts)The MAGA insurrectionists are in for an unpleasant surprise.
spike jones
(1,682 posts)maxsolomon
(33,345 posts)Thanks, JTTF. Bang up job!
paleotn
(17,931 posts)the full power of federal law enforcement and Judiciary. Acting DC AG stated today we will be shocked by who's involved in this.
Roc2020
(1,616 posts)swallow his pride and all this would have been avoided. Now the full weight of the U.S investigative institutions will crash down on Trump his enablers and the traitors who stormed the capital. wowee
Traildogbob
(8,770 posts)DOD refused to allow new admin to have access to meetings or intel for weeks before the attack. A DOD Under the guidance of a 30 year idiot just appointed by trump the head the department. Ya think there was some things that needed to be secret. Firing squad!!!!! Enough of this treasonous GOP attack on the country. Unit, come together, let by Gones be. Fuck that, treat this just like 9-11. Hunt them alldobe, find them in their hide outs, congress people like included. If they resist arrest, we give an O Bin Ladin hello. And burial at sea so trumpets can not have a martyr site to worship.
We were attacked, more coming, just like the Japanese did on our soil. No uniting. Justice needs to happen first.
SunSeeker
(51,579 posts)We knew something was up when all that went down!
dutch777
(3,027 posts)I wonder if it wouldn't be prudent to juts investigate, locate and surveil the miscreants but not actually arrest and charge until after Trump is gone.
StarfishSaver
(18,486 posts)Who would he pardon and for what crimes - and how would he even describe it in a pardon?
I think it would be too vague and nebulous for a court to rule it valid.
dutch777
(3,027 posts)That's a long shot but I could see him try just to thumb his nose at Nancy and Co.
StarfishSaver
(18,486 posts)It doesn't help him.
The only reason to do it would be as a poke in the eye to law enforcement and Congress. But, by all accounts, he's also disgusted with the rioters because they didn't achieve his goal of stopping the count and they looked "low-class." So he's probably lost interest in them and doesn't care what happens to them now.
DanieRains
(4,619 posts)During the attack.
dutch777
(3,027 posts)yaesu
(8,020 posts)if sued in the future so tRump is pissed & refuses to pardon anymore if he can't get one.
dutch777
(3,027 posts)Of course, if I were Pence and got s**t on increasingly over the last four years, I'd nod about giving a pardon but then after he resigns and I am sworn in I wouldn't do it. Let Trump swing in the wind for a change.
Denzil_DC
(7,246 posts)they've indicated these are just relatively minor ones pro tem, with the possiblity of heavier ones to follow. I don't think even Trump can pardon random assholes for crimes not yet charged.
SunSeeker
(51,579 posts)Initech
(100,088 posts)We need to who was involved, why they were involved, why it got so bad, and the people who were involved need to be punished to the maximum extent of the law. This should not be allowed to stand, and no one involved should get to walk away without consequences.
BobTheSubgenius
(11,564 posts)Prison, prison, prison! Then more prison.
bucolic_frolic
(43,228 posts)Such as it takes time, perhaps half a day to prepare and be sure of not giving out too much, and there are high level things to do, and the press wants to know so much more, everything, when the top brass is there.
SpankMe
(2,959 posts)...then it sounds like the career FBI investigators and staff are finally able to properly investigate crimes like this since there's no Barr at the top. They're behaving like they're already working for Merrick Garland. With so few days left of a Trump administration, it sounds like there's no oppressive leadership at the top of DoJ to temper a full attack on these seditionists.
rdking647
(5,113 posts)AllaN01Bear
(18,297 posts)LibfromtheNorth
(39 posts)I'm just curious, will DU be providing bingo cards with all the usual suspects or do I have to get them myself?
Thanks,
byronius
(7,396 posts)Gosh, I'd chip in.
Maybe a self-printable photo with sentence and prison at the bottom --
Really, well done.
Vinca
(50,299 posts)A Trumphumper could build their own meth lab for that kind of money so the name will be forthcoming.