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NRaleighLiberal

(60,016 posts)
Tue Jan 12, 2021, 05:27 PM Jan 2021

538 - long, good read "How Much Danger is American Democracy In"?

https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/how-much-danger-is-american-democracy-in/

(I'm going to cherry pick a few bits, but it is all worth a scan, if not a read)

This violent episode raises many questions about the future of democracy in America — not only its continued health, but the extent to which the U.S. has already become less democratic. So let’s first unpack this question by diving into this data point: Polls show while the majority of Americans condemn what happened on Wednesday, a plurality of Republican voters support it. What does that say about the current state of democracy in the U.S.?

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lee.drutman (Lee Drutman, senior fellow at New America and FiveThirtyEight contributor): Democracy requires parties that are committed to free and fair elections and will accept the outcome — even if they lose. So if the dominant position in the Republican Party is that the only free and fair elections are those where Republicans win, and anything else is “stolen” and fraudulent, then we’re on the precipice of not having a democracy.

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jennifer.mccoy: The politics of resentment, written about by a number of scholars, including Kathy Cramer and Arlie Hochschild, who wrote definitive books on the topic, derives from perceptions of unfairness or injustice that accompany the diversification of one’s workplace or community, changing the power structures that Cyrus spoke about. The urban-rural divide in America’s politics exemplifies this. Rural Americans, mostly Republicans, perceive urban dwellers, more Democratic and more racially diverse, as receiving more than their “fair share” of tax revenues and opportunities. With wage stagnation and the growing service-based economy, white males without a college degree, in particular, feel a loss of social status that can lead to rage and support for more authoritarian politics. This is why “identity politics” are arguably more of an issue for the GOP than the Democratic Party today. What’s particularly troubling here, though, is that the political rhetoric from politicians and media personalities are really whipping up latent attitudes of resentment to create the politics of outrage we saw on display last Wednesday. Republicans have gone further than Democrats in using vilifying language and painting horrific scenarios if the “radical, liberal, socialist Democrats” and their “anarchic mobs” take over.

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jennifer.mccoy: And the future of the Republican Party is absolutely key to what happens to U.S. democracy. Early signs after Jan. 6 are not encouraging — the party reelected Trump’s hand-picked candidates for the RNC, chair Ronna McDaniel and co-chair Tommy Hicks, and many party leaders have also avoided calling for any accountability for Trump, instead saying that this will further divide the country when we need to unify.

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cyrus.samii: If there is no accountability, then the lesson for Republicans will be that they can continue to use illiberal means to maintain a grip on power. And on the left, this might play into the hands of those who would say there is no point in sticking with liberal institutional processes when the other side doesn’t. A clear recipe, in other words, for escalation.

jennifer.mccoy: And if there isn’t any accountability for what happened Wednesday, it gives organized citizens, as well as the next generation of political leaders, license to engage in the same — or worse. Political learning is a real thing, and it can be positive or negative.

If Congress or others fail to act, the road remains open to Trump (and anyone else) to continue to act with impunity, run for office again or support future violent acts. Congress has the ability to impeach Trump and take the extra step of disqualifying him from running again, and the power to censure and even expel the members of Congress who spread the same disinformation about the election and voted against the certification of results in two states. This is important because failing to condemn the exclusionary and hate-filled rhetoric Trump used in his presidency means that catering to the fears, anxieties and resentments of a portion of the electorate might remain a viable political path moving forward.

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so, so much more to read and unpack in this interesting discussion

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538 - long, good read "How Much Danger is American Democracy In"? (Original Post) NRaleighLiberal Jan 2021 OP
great read llashram Jan 2021 #1
thanks, I appreciate your comment. NRaleighLiberal Jan 2021 #2
RIF was a thing llashram Jan 2021 #3

llashram

(6,265 posts)
1. great read
Tue Jan 12, 2021, 05:42 PM
Jan 2021

they have their fingers on the pulse of this question. Diversity of America vs white resentment of that all-inclusive diversity "embodied by President Barack Obama". Tat's just one of the excellent points covered. Saved for later to do some in-depth reading of discussion. Thank You. This is important reading for understanding America at this time of political unrest.

NRaleighLiberal

(60,016 posts)
2. thanks, I appreciate your comment.
Tue Jan 12, 2021, 06:03 PM
Jan 2021

I feel like we can never dig deep enough to really understand where we are.

reading.... it's fundamental (there was an ad aimed at children years ago that stated that. Stuck with me. I am ill suited for the sound bite twitterverse!)

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