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MelissaB

(16,420 posts)
Tue Jan 12, 2021, 05:33 PM Jan 2021

Breaking Big: Senator Mitch McConnell is said to believe President Trump committed impeachable offe

Breaking News: Senator Mitch McConnell is said to believe President Trump committed impeachable offenses, and to be pleased Democrats are moving to impeach him.






McConnell is said to be pleased about impeachment, believing it will make it easier to purge Trump from the Republican Party.

Senator Mitch McConnell, the Republican leader, has told associates he believes President Trump committed impeachable offenses and that he is pleased that Democrats are moving to impeach him, believing that it will make it easier to purge him from the party, according to people familiar with his thinking. The House is voting Wednesday to formally charge Mr. Trump with inciting violence against the country.

At the same time, Representative Kevin McCarthy, the minority leader and one of Mr. Trump’s most steadfast allies in Congress, has asked other Republicans whether he ought to call on Mr. Trump to resign in the aftermath of last week’s riot at the Capitol, according to three Republican officials briefed on the conversations.

While Mr. McCarthy has said he is personally opposed to impeachment, he and other party leaders have decided not to formally lobby Republicans to vote “no,” and an aide to Mr. McCarthy said he was open to a measure censuring Mr. Trump for his conduct. In private, Mr. McCarthy reached out to a leading House Democrat to see if the chamber would be willing to pursue a censure vote, though Speaker Nancy Pelosi has ruled it out.

Taken together, the stances of Congress’s two top Republicans — neither of whom has said publicly that Mr. Trump should resign or be impeached — reflected the politically fraught and fast-moving nature of the crisis that the party faces in the wake of last week’s assault by a pro-Trump mob during a session to formalize President-elect Joseph R. Biden Jr.’s electoral victory.

More: https://www.nytimes.com/2021/01/12/us/mcconnell-impeachment-trump-mc.html?smid=tw-nytimes&smtyp=cur
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Breaking Big: Senator Mitch McConnell is said to believe President Trump committed impeachable offe (Original Post) MelissaB Jan 2021 OP
Well, let's see how long he waffles on it. grumpyduck Jan 2021 #1
Yeah, he'll send a spokesman out to deny it, so that leaves doubt in either direction-- BusyBeingBest Jan 2021 #9
So call the senate back and remove the MFer lisa58 Jan 2021 #2
Yes, is he going to do that, no then STFU Walleye Jan 2021 #5
👍 and Kevin McCarthy needs to tell his caucus to vote for impeachment lisa58 Jan 2021 #10
Yep, let's see if he actually walks the walk or if it is all talk. Vivienne235729 Jan 2021 #31
We shall see lisa58 Jan 2021 #34
Maybe this is the thing that unifies us. Survival instinct Walleye Jan 2021 #3
Sure and with 9 days to go, why not? Turbineguy Jan 2021 #4
Exactly TxDemChem Jan 2021 #54
Oh... LovingA2andMI Jan 2021 #6
Well, I would add that when the corporate $$$$ spigot started to close, Moscow Mitch had an alwaysinasnit Jan 2021 #22
This. SergeStorms Jan 2021 #26
I think that it was the closing off the money stream AND the fact that little Donnie McDollHands The_REAL_Ecumenist Jan 2021 #67
And yet ... StarfishSaver Jan 2021 #7
"is said to believe"? DBoon Jan 2021 #8
He really is a piece of s***. He turns on anyone and everyone. Srkdqltr Jan 2021 #11
But not pleased enough to move up consideration of the article Qutzupalotl Jan 2021 #12
Impeachment or sect. 3; 14 Amend. ( about which I'm still learning) marybourg Jan 2021 #13
They can finish him off if they have the guts BeyondGeography Jan 2021 #14
Mitch doesn't have the guts; that's why he's leaving it to Schumer William Seger Jan 2021 #65
Seems bdamomma Jan 2021 #15
Another snip... MelissaB Jan 2021 #16
"Move on the weakened lame duck" central scrutinizer Jan 2021 #33
At this point, I'll take it. MelissaB Jan 2021 #35
As long as impeachment moves forward to votes central scrutinizer Jan 2021 #41
Turtle Man serves a purpose. nt Tommy_Carcetti Jan 2021 #17
His own power. As always. Volaris Jan 2021 #53
Sen. Mitch McConnell? The SML? From Kentucky, USA? yonder Jan 2021 #18
The Hill: Schumer calls on McConnell to let Trump impeachment trial start immediately onetexan Jan 2021 #19
i'm watching that presser with schumer on cspan now orleans Jan 2021 #39
They're reading the polls Wednesdays Jan 2021 #20
I also think it hit too close to home JonLP24 Jan 2021 #29
This is the GOP's chance to rid the party of Trumpism, try and get their big donors back Fiendish Thingy Jan 2021 #21
Absolutely LeftInTX Jan 2021 #27
Always working an angle. But whatever it takes to get it accomplished. sprinkleeninow Jan 2021 #45
I said right after the election, they'll turn on him once he's no longer useful to them. kysrsoze Jan 2021 #23
He was impeachable the first time.... SergeStorms Jan 2021 #24
The turtle has fallen on his back and can't get up srose58089 Jan 2021 #61
Nope. I don't believe it. nt Catherine Vincent Jan 2021 #25
He can go to hell..if he cared he would have a trial now..not after Trump leaves. Nt helpisontheway Jan 2021 #28
Great - just tell us what you will vote you slimy weasel turtle! cbdo2007 Jan 2021 #30
To save his own ass. moondust Jan 2021 #32
I'm sure he believes it DFW Jan 2021 #36
Hes a liar! occupant Jan 2021 #37
CNN confirms this reporting. MelissaB Jan 2021 #38
Does he want raving lunatics to mob him at airports? Catherine Vincent Jan 2021 #40
Looking like handily passing the 50 vote margin to prevent tRump from ever holding office. . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Jan 2021 #48
Probably only because volstork Jan 2021 #42
See? Unity! CoryTrevor Jan 2021 #43
fuck 'em both - entirely complicit - you can bet they both withheld vital info and support bringthePaine Jan 2021 #44
Would NOW be a good time to remind McConnell that he had a chance to do this in early 2020 Mr. Ected Jan 2021 #46
I'm beginning to think now that there will be Three (3) parties on the right Bernardo de La Paz Jan 2021 #47
Mitch's Revenge.. Well trump Did.. Cha Jan 2021 #49
Nothing shocking -- he just wants political cover and credit for the words tandem5 Jan 2021 #50
He believed it was impeachable last time too Borderer Jan 2021 #51
McTurtle saw corporate money drying up and is hitting NoMoreRepugs Jan 2021 #52
I'm sure he wants Trump to go away dansolo Jan 2021 #55
Zero trust in anyone with an "R" after their name. liberalmuse Jan 2021 #56
Trying to avoid complicity, Mitch? dchill Jan 2021 #57
Looks like Goldwater Gambit? Nasruddin Jan 2021 #58
Uncle Mitch says: Aussie105 Jan 2021 #59
Sounds like he and McCarthy are cutting bait on poopy pants. paleotn Jan 2021 #60
He doesn't want Trump to be able to run again, and probably win. LiberalLovinLug Jan 2021 #62
Then why is he blocking fast-tracking it? SunSeeker Jan 2021 #63
Whether he said this, or whether he didn't... BobTheSubgenius Jan 2021 #64
McConnell is completely untrustworthy dlk Jan 2021 #66
Don't be fooled, he's only trying to blunt the progressive agenda bucolic_frolic Jan 2021 #68

BusyBeingBest

(8,058 posts)
9. Yeah, he'll send a spokesman out to deny it, so that leaves doubt in either direction--
Tue Jan 12, 2021, 05:36 PM
Jan 2021

always self-serving, McTurtle.

The_REAL_Ecumenist

(727 posts)
67. I think that it was the closing off the money stream AND the fact that little Donnie McDollHands
Tue Jan 12, 2021, 08:04 PM
Jan 2021

sent his mouthbreathing, knuckledragging lunatics to MURDER them all...but I'm just sayin'. I mean, what do I know.

DBoon

(22,383 posts)
8. "is said to believe"?
Tue Jan 12, 2021, 05:35 PM
Jan 2021

By whom? On what basis? Even if we had an attribution from a credible source, this is still a very weak statement.

Srkdqltr

(6,307 posts)
11. He really is a piece of s***. He turns on anyone and everyone.
Tue Jan 12, 2021, 05:37 PM
Jan 2021

I'm glad he thinks that. But don't trust him. Not for a minute.
He has shown he will knife either side.

Qutzupalotl

(14,320 posts)
12. But not pleased enough to move up consideration of the article
Tue Jan 12, 2021, 05:37 PM
Jan 2021

before Trump's term ends. What a coward.

BeyondGeography

(39,377 posts)
14. They can finish him off if they have the guts
Tue Jan 12, 2021, 05:38 PM
Jan 2021

I hate the bastard with all my might, but if this is true Mitch is thinking like a leader.

bdamomma

(63,913 posts)
15. Seems
Tue Jan 12, 2021, 05:38 PM
Jan 2021

like the turtle is getting his revenge on tRump, after tRump threw his chances of being Majority Leader after the Georgia win.

They are eating their own.

MelissaB

(16,420 posts)
16. Another snip...
Tue Jan 12, 2021, 05:39 PM
Jan 2021
Mr. McConnell, Republican of Kentucky has indicated he wants to see the specific article of impeachment that the House is set to approve on Wednesday, which is expected to draw support from as many as a dozen Republicans, potentially including Representative Liz Cheney of Wyoming, the party’s No. 3 in the House. But he has made clear in private discussions that he believes now is the moment to move on the weakened lame duck, whom he blames for Republicans losing the Senate.


central scrutinizer

(11,653 posts)
41. As long as impeachment moves forward to votes
Tue Jan 12, 2021, 06:35 PM
Jan 2021

If Drumpf resigns due to the walls closing in, I can see the Republicans saying drop impeachment and let’s get to work on the nation’s business. We can’t have them take over the narrative and try to sweep their complicity under the rug. Get them on the record by forcing a vote.

yonder

(9,668 posts)
18. Sen. Mitch McConnell? The SML? From Kentucky, USA?
Tue Jan 12, 2021, 05:39 PM
Jan 2021

That McConnell?

Holy Shit, are they issuing spines in the Senate now?

onetexan

(13,048 posts)
19. The Hill: Schumer calls on McConnell to let Trump impeachment trial start immediately
Tue Jan 12, 2021, 05:39 PM
Jan 2021
https://thehill.com/homenews/senate/533861-schumer-calls-on-mcconnell-to-allow-trump-impeachment-trial-immediately

"Schumer calls on McConnell to let Trump impeachment trial start immediately
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Senate Democratic Leader Charles Schumer (N.Y.) on Tuesday called on Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-Ky.) to reconvene the chamber immediately to allow an impeachment trial of President Trump before Inauguration Day.

Schumer disputed McConnell’s claim laid out in a memo circulated to colleagues Friday asserting it would take all 100 senators to agree to allow business to proceed on the Senate floor before senators are scheduled to return on Jan. 19. Under McConnell’s interpretation, a second Trump impeachment trial in the Senate could not begin until 1 p.m. on Jan. 20, about an hour after President-elect Joe Biden is slated to be sworn into office.

“Leader McConnell is saying you can’t call the Senate back after the House votes for impeachment because it requires unanimous consent — the consent of every senator. That’s not true,” Schumer said at a televised press conference in New York.

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Schumer argued that legislation passed in 2004 allows the leaders of both parties to reconvene the Senate at any time.

“There was legislation passed in 2004 that allows the Senate minority and majority leader to jointly reconvene the Senate in times of emergency. This is a time of emergency,” Schumer said.

“I’ve asked him to call the Senate back — all he needs is my agreement. I’m still minority leader,” Schumer said.

The Democratic leader called on the Senate to “come back ASAP and vote to convict Donald Trump and get him out of office now before any further damage is done.”

The House is expected to pass an article of impeachment on Wednesday."


I hope they can work something out quickly.

orleans

(34,068 posts)
39. i'm watching that presser with schumer on cspan now
Tue Jan 12, 2021, 06:16 PM
Jan 2021

people need to know that the senate can be called back NOW
this is an EMERGENCY

(mcconnell is such as asshole--always dodging the tough work)

JonLP24

(29,322 posts)
29. I also think it hit too close to home
Tue Jan 12, 2021, 05:46 PM
Jan 2021

That is probably a big reason why there is bipartisan support especially this close to January 20.

Fiendish Thingy

(15,644 posts)
21. This is the GOP's chance to rid the party of Trumpism, try and get their big donors back
Tue Jan 12, 2021, 05:40 PM
Jan 2021

Mitch sees the writing on the wall, the GOP is crumbling before his eyes...

kysrsoze

(6,022 posts)
23. I said right after the election, they'll turn on him once he's no longer useful to them.
Tue Jan 12, 2021, 05:42 PM
Jan 2021

McTurtle never gave a shit about him, and obviously hates him. The knives are out.

SergeStorms

(19,204 posts)
24. He was impeachable the first time....
Tue Jan 12, 2021, 05:43 PM
Jan 2021

but you wouldn't even allow evidence and witnesses to be presented before you and your Republican sheep voted NO. Screw you, Mitch. We laid everything out in front of you and you laughed. We told you over and over what Trump was, but you wanted your precious judges. Fuck off Mitch!

moondust

(20,001 posts)
32. To save his own ass.
Tue Jan 12, 2021, 05:57 PM
Jan 2021

He sees all these companies, the PGA, Belichek, etc., dumping Dump and now he's dumping Dump to try to save what's left of the corrupt mob he leads.

DFW

(54,415 posts)
36. I'm sure he believes it
Tue Jan 12, 2021, 06:10 PM
Jan 2021

I’m just as sure he still believes any Republican ought to get away with it.

MelissaB

(16,420 posts)
38. CNN confirms this reporting.
Tue Jan 12, 2021, 06:12 PM
Jan 2021
Sources confirm that McConnell has indicated that this impeachment effort will help rid Trump/Trumpism from the party. But McConnell has not said if he will vote to convict. McConnell pins the blame squarely on Trump for failure in GA and costing them Senate. They haven’t spoken.



volstork

(5,403 posts)
42. Probably only because
Tue Jan 12, 2021, 06:43 PM
Jan 2021

he sees some sort of angle he can play to benefit him and the criminals he works for....

Mr. Ected

(9,670 posts)
46. Would NOW be a good time to remind McConnell that he had a chance to do this in early 2020
Tue Jan 12, 2021, 06:57 PM
Jan 2021

And he refused to even hear evidence.

All this could have been avoided. We would have had a completely different approach to COVID. Mitch has got blood on his hands, a lot of it. Damn the GOP. They are opportunistic MF'ers that absolutely lack a soul.

Bernardo de La Paz

(49,020 posts)
47. I'm beginning to think now that there will be Three (3) parties on the right
Tue Jan 12, 2021, 06:59 PM
Jan 2021

1) Real conservatives like Lincoln Project conservatives who are willing to work with Democrats.

2) Rotting Elephant Carcass Party remnants of the Greed Over People party.

3) MAGA Q God Emperor of the US party.

Cha

(297,421 posts)
49. Mitch's Revenge.. Well trump Did..
Tue Jan 12, 2021, 07:04 PM
Jan 2021

& would have been shocked that mitch agrees.

But I read he is"Pissed & Never speaking to the Treasonous asshole Again".

tandem5

(2,072 posts)
50. Nothing shocking -- he just wants political cover and credit for the words
Tue Jan 12, 2021, 07:05 PM
Jan 2021

without any sort of meaningful action or follow-through.

Borderer

(50 posts)
51. He believed it was impeachable last time too
Tue Jan 12, 2021, 07:06 PM
Jan 2021

Whatever he is he isn't stupid.

If he is "pleased" about impeachment this time its only because he has taken the attack on his own life personally. Or possibly because he sees a cynical partisan benefit in it as a means of taking up Senate time in the incoming administration which might otherwise be devoted to undoing his nefarious life's work.

dansolo

(5,376 posts)
55. I'm sure he wants Trump to go away
Tue Jan 12, 2021, 07:08 PM
Jan 2021

He got his tax cuts and judges. Trump is no longer useful, and has already gotten in the way of Mitch remaining as Majority Leader.

liberalmuse

(18,672 posts)
56. Zero trust in anyone with an "R" after their name.
Tue Jan 12, 2021, 07:10 PM
Jan 2021

Say it publicly, Mitch. Better yet, take action! I'm sick of all this third hand "private concern" we keep hearing about from the GOP camp just to make themselves appear to be anything more than a soulless bunch of charlatans who would sell their country for a nickel. I've never witnessed a more spineless bunch in all my years.

Nasruddin

(754 posts)
58. Looks like Goldwater Gambit?
Tue Jan 12, 2021, 07:15 PM
Jan 2021

In '74 Goldwater & some Republican leadership went to the Whitehouse & told Nixon he was going to be impeached & convicted.

It looks to me like some Republican leadership is trying to do this, with notorious slow-learner Mr Trump.

Impeachment is a forgone conclusion with the House, but the Senate, well... If McConnell wants him out, Mr Trump is probably gone. But the cost would be fatal to many senatorial careers, let alone reps. Resigning would solve most of the immediate problems and leave the door open for Mr Trump to run another day.

I don't see him taking the offer but ....

Aussie105

(5,412 posts)
59. Uncle Mitch says:
Tue Jan 12, 2021, 07:22 PM
Jan 2021

Yeah, Trump was an experiment in getting the GOP a sock puppet as POTUS, but it all went wrong.
People caught on.
Experiment failed.
Now let's clean up this mess - impeachment will do it.
Once that is done, we can try to find a more suitable candidate for 2024 to get us that end game goal - GOP in power, in perpetuity!

In short, Mitch isn't an uncle you can trust.

BobTheSubgenius

(11,564 posts)
64. Whether he said this, or whether he didn't...
Tue Jan 12, 2021, 07:45 PM
Jan 2021

...I'll believe it if it's still operative when the rubber hits the road.

bucolic_frolic

(43,236 posts)
68. Don't be fooled, he's only trying to blunt the progressive agenda
Tue Jan 12, 2021, 08:19 PM
Jan 2021

by getting out in front of it in some way. Mitch is nothing if he's not a realist.

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