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Nevilledog

(51,157 posts)
Tue Jan 12, 2021, 06:18 PM Jan 2021

Marc Elias comment on memo from The Joint Chiefs of Staff today



Tweet text:
Marc E. Elias
@marceelias
The military called the Jan 6 attack “sedition and insurrection.” The 14th Amendment bars from serving in Congress people who “engaged in insurrection.”

Seems to me like a big step towards barring/expelling a number of sitting members and senators.
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Marc Elias comment on memo from The Joint Chiefs of Staff today (Original Post) Nevilledog Jan 2021 OP
K&R! SheltieLover Jan 2021 #1
I'm ALL in favor of Expelling my senator Ted Coup Cruz and NOW not a moment sooner MagickMuffin Jan 2021 #2
Me too!! Laurelin Jan 2021 #6
LOL! "Bloated, sanctimonious toad." Perfect. :) (N/T) Old Crow Jan 2021 #28
+1 uponit7771 Jan 2021 #14
EX-Senator Josh Hawley belongs at the top of the expell list. magicarpet Jan 2021 #3
Hell yes! onecaliberal Jan 2021 #4
Please do it. Mike 03 Jan 2021 #5
And Gym Jordan, and the gun toting freshman woman rep from Colorado, and all 135 who voted to iluvtennis Jan 2021 #21
Start with these three: Biggs, Gosar and Brooks: From DailyKos: lindysalsagal Jan 2021 #7
While I think they are on the right side of history here, it does worry me... TheRealNorth Jan 2021 #8
In addition to making the lawlessness clear and dissuading Harker Jan 2021 #10
I don't think it's an "either", "or" situation. luvtheGWN Jan 2021 #18
I doubt Cruz or Hawley were aware of the plan to storm the Capitol, though anyone could tell that Gary 50 Jan 2021 #22
Donald "We love you" Trump also gave aid and comfort to the enemy. (n/t) thesquanderer Jan 2021 #9
This is a BFD. The military is onboard. DemoTex Jan 2021 #11
Milley's denouncement of his own show of military force after the "photo-op" theneworiginal Jan 2021 #38
I thing about 145 or so senators and Congress critters need to go NRaleighLiberal Jan 2021 #12
Great letter. WinstonSmith4740 Jan 2021 #13
This . . . is a Holy Shit significant moment in our nation's history. NBachers Jan 2021 #15
Wow. BobTheSubgenius Jan 2021 #16
Wow. That's a powerful letter. SpankMe Jan 2021 #17
I'd love it if they could expell Cruz and Hawley and make Manchin irrelevant. LiberalLovinLug Jan 2021 #19
TRUMP DEAD ENDERS more dangerous than ever nt Nululu Jan 2021 #20
From the 14th Amendment: lefthandedskyhook Jan 2021 #23
How do you get a 2/3 vote when more than 1/3 participated? Generic Brad Jan 2021 #26
Good question. Common sense says they'd be prohibited from voting Nevilledog Jan 2021 #29
X point,they don't get to be on their own jury questionseverything Jan 2021 #35
If I'm reading it correctly lefthandedskyhook Jan 2021 #37
At the very least, 14th Mo Brooks. maxsolomon Jan 2021 #24
Wouldn't it be sweet if they had to answer for their actions? JohnnyRingo Jan 2021 #25
KICK orangecrush Jan 2021 #27
Love the note but I must insist JCOS use an Oxford comma in these releases. It's TeamPooka Jan 2021 #30
Kickin Wawannabe Jan 2021 #31
That letter was a HUGE deal with regard to maintaining rule of law coti Jan 2021 #32
Seems to us too, Marc Elias.. Rt TY!! Cha Jan 2021 #33
full size image ... Hermit-The-Prog Jan 2021 #34
k&r Demovictory9 Jan 2021 #36

MagickMuffin

(15,949 posts)
2. I'm ALL in favor of Expelling my senator Ted Coup Cruz and NOW not a moment sooner
Tue Jan 12, 2021, 06:24 PM
Jan 2021

the terrorist in AL had Ted Cruz phone numbers in his possession. He knew he could call on Ted, Shaun (sp) Hannity and Mo Brooks.

He knew who to call if he needed help.

Were they going to tell him where to throw his napalm jars?

Mike 03

(16,616 posts)
5. Please do it.
Tue Jan 12, 2021, 06:35 PM
Jan 2021

After they get the senators, please come to the House and nab Rep Paul Gosar, because he played a part in this.

iluvtennis

(19,864 posts)
21. And Gym Jordan, and the gun toting freshman woman rep from Colorado, and all 135 who voted to
Tue Jan 12, 2021, 08:47 PM
Jan 2021

overturn the EC votes for Biden.

TheRealNorth

(9,481 posts)
8. While I think they are on the right side of history here, it does worry me...
Tue Jan 12, 2021, 07:11 PM
Jan 2021

It worries me that the Joint Chiefs even feel the need to issue this statement. Are they trying to intimidate/dissuade the MAGATS who think the military is going to join them if they rise up? Or is there a conspiracy within the Trump Admin that they are warning Trump not to try it.

I am not enthusiastic about throwing out Republican legislators UNLESS it is proven that they were active conspirators (meaning, they had foreknowledge of the plan to storm the Capitol and did/said nothing, and/or they actively assisted the insurgents with breaking the law).

Harker

(14,029 posts)
10. In addition to making the lawlessness clear and dissuading
Tue Jan 12, 2021, 07:37 PM
Jan 2021

active duty personnel from participating, it promotes alertness to foreign threats during a dangerous domestic situation.

luvtheGWN

(1,336 posts)
18. I don't think it's an "either", "or" situation.
Tue Jan 12, 2021, 08:02 PM
Jan 2021

I think they ARE warning the MAGATS and I believe they have some proof of the conspiracy within the Trump WH.

Yes, it's terrific that they have made this joint statement, and I hope it's also a warning to anyone in the military that court martial and (perhaps) death by firing squad may well be the punishment for any military magats.

Gary 50

(382 posts)
22. I doubt Cruz or Hawley were aware of the plan to storm the Capitol, though anyone could tell that
Tue Jan 12, 2021, 08:50 PM
Jan 2021

violence was coming, violence stoked by these and other liars meant to enrage Trumps useful idiots. But that is not the reason they should be expelled. They knowingly supported the big lie that Donald trump was cheated out of his second term, that the election should be overturned and Donald trump should be declared president by congress. This is sedition and more than enough reason to kick them out.

theneworiginal

(302 posts)
38. Milley's denouncement of his own show of military force after the "photo-op"
Wed Jan 13, 2021, 01:46 PM
Jan 2021

is why tRump had to rely on random malcontents to overthrow the government. Milley got taken to task by a number of current and ex-military elites on his misuse of the armed forces and he sternly recanted. Had this "dry run" been successful for tRump, we would all be singing a different tune today.

NRaleighLiberal

(60,016 posts)
12. I thing about 145 or so senators and Congress critters need to go
Tue Jan 12, 2021, 07:42 PM
Jan 2021

ALL who call this a Biden election theft. ALL. Toss them out.

WinstonSmith4740

(3,056 posts)
13. Great letter.
Tue Jan 12, 2021, 07:43 PM
Jan 2021

But words are cheap...recall those retired military that have already been identified & court martial them. I'm hoping the wheels are in motion to do just that.

BobTheSubgenius

(11,564 posts)
16. Wow.
Tue Jan 12, 2021, 07:50 PM
Jan 2021

What a tragic waste of funds, effort and potential if Josh Hawley, along with several others, were to be banished from Congress before any of them could land at least one good body shot on Democracy?

In another relevant case...those people got their money's worth over the years with Cruz, amirite?

SpankMe

(2,959 posts)
17. Wow. That's a powerful letter.
Tue Jan 12, 2021, 07:59 PM
Jan 2021

It's a letter to the entire military stating explicitly that Joe Biden will be the commander in chief. No fuzz, no uncertainty, no confusion, no "wait and see".

lefthandedskyhook

(964 posts)
23. From the 14th Amendment:
Tue Jan 12, 2021, 08:57 PM
Jan 2021

"Section 3
No Person shall be a Senator or Representative in Congress, or elector of President and Vice-President, or hold any office, civil or military, under the United States, or under any State, who, having previously taken an oath, as a member of Congress, or as an officer of the United States, or as a member of any State legislature, or as an executive or judicial officer of any State, to support the Constitution of the United States, shall have engaged in insurrection or rebellion against the same, or given aid or comfort to the enemies thereof. But Congress may by a vote of two-thirds of each House, remove such disability."

Generic Brad

(14,275 posts)
26. How do you get a 2/3 vote when more than 1/3 participated?
Tue Jan 12, 2021, 09:09 PM
Jan 2021

Are the 1/3 insurrectionists prohibited from casting a vote? If so, this is slam dunk expulsion. If not, they will circle the wagons and continue to make trouble.

Nevilledog

(51,157 posts)
29. Good question. Common sense says they'd be prohibited from voting
Tue Jan 12, 2021, 09:25 PM
Jan 2021

Another untested proposition because this is the first time we've had a party inciting an insurrection

JohnnyRingo

(18,638 posts)
25. Wouldn't it be sweet if they had to answer for their actions?
Tue Jan 12, 2021, 09:08 PM
Jan 2021

Just like in the real world where Donald Trump lost the election.

TeamPooka

(24,237 posts)
30. Love the note but I must insist JCOS use an Oxford comma in these releases. It's
Tue Jan 12, 2021, 09:29 PM
Jan 2021

"violence, sedition, and insurrection."

Cha

(297,446 posts)
33. Seems to us too, Marc Elias.. Rt TY!!
Wed Jan 13, 2021, 02:51 AM
Jan 2021

Be Sweet if all the Insurrectionists in Congress Lost their cushy jobs bc they Abused the Constitution.

This does not mean that those who work hard for the People they serve have it "cushy".

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