Trump's ultimate goal was to throw the election to the House

[Proud liberal 80]

His thinking was that Republicans had the most State delegations....I am not even sure that would have worked because Liz Cheney (the single Wyoming vote) would have probably voted Biden

[leftieNanner]

1. Oh, I bet you are right

And Liz Cheney has designs on the Oval Office herself.

[wryter2000]

2. I doubt one R vote would have changed the outcome

And if the assholes hadn't invaded the capitol, I doubt there would have been any more votes for Biden.

[qazplm135]

4. her one vote

makes it 25-25 state delegations if she had voted for Biden.

[wryter2000]

5. Really?

Who would have won the tie?

[qazplm135]

8. they keep voting until the tie is broken

historically we've seen double digit votes.

I believe the delegations are 26-24 R-D, so I believe her delegation of one flipping ties it.

[Celerity]

13. there would have been no tie, the other poster is wrong with their numbers

https://www.democraticunderground.com/100214906477#post12

[Celerity]

12. no, you are off with your numbers, the Rethugs control 27 delegations, we control 20, 3 are tied

WY flipping does nothing, as they still have 26, the minimum number needed, and it only takes us to 21

Iowa is now full Red, we lost the IA 2nd district by SIX votes, which gave the Rethugs control of the state delegation, and thus their 27th delegation (we had control of it before 2020, so it was straight flip)

so IF it had come down to the House choosing, and Wyoming was the only state to break ranks

six people basically elected Trump at that point (and actually only 3 or 4, if they had flipped from R to D) as IA is the 26th Rethug delegation

https://www.270towin.com/news/2020/11/12/117th-congress-partisan-composition-us-house-state_1129.html

[qazplm135]

15. I'm only off by one then

because you still need a majority (26 states) to win, so if she flipped, you'd need flip only one more Republican delegation.

So it still makes a difference as you need only one of the close delegations to flip.

[Celerity]

17. yes, but you also said it (WY flipping) would give us 25, when it only would gives us 21 nt

[qazplm135]

19. Doesn't matter what we have

Matters what they need.

[Proud liberal 80]

9. Liz Cheney's vote is very important and could change outcome

Seeing that she is the entire state delegation

[Celerity]

14. not unless another Rethug delegation flips, as WY alone still leaves them 26, the bare number needed

https://www.democraticunderground.com/100214906477#post12

[qazplm135]

16. which makes her vote very important

and could still change the outcome.

Just because one more delegation is needed doesn't make her vote not important and not potentially outcome changing.

[Celerity]

18. odds are very high that IF it had went to the House there would have been no insurrection

invasion of the Capitol, thus no WY flip, so this entire thing is speculative revisionist history. I have been deep into a House vote (due to a 269-269 tie) for well over a year on here. The only shot we had at taking away a Rethug state, so 25 in toto post election (in theory, also lost MN, MI, and IA in reality), was Florida, with FL-15 the only legit shot we had there for a R to D flip. When it was called for the Rethug early, I knew FL overall was in deep shit for us, both with vulnerable House members,(we lost 2) and also Trump winning it for POTUS)

We came within 43K or so votes (so less than 22K potential Biden to Trump flippers in just 3 states, AZ, GA, and WI) of that 269-269 tie actually happening.

[qazplm135]

20. It's ALL speculative

Including yours.

[Celerity]

22. I posted correct maths and tallies, and I have no idea why you are so combative

done here

have a nice night

[qazplm135]

25. Combative?

Lol no names called, just disagreeing with your apparent argument that getting within one state of a tie isn't significant and close, but that's combative? Ok then

[marble falls]

3. Seriously? That's even worse than the Electorial College!

[StarfishSaver]

23. That only happens if no candidate gets a majority of votes in the Electoral College

[TlalocW]

6. I thought the state delegations only voted

When the electoral votes were a tie, or there was no one with 270 votes? For that to happen, first there would have to have been alternate slates of electors, and there were none, and any objections would have had to pass a vote in the Senate and the House, and they were all going to be DOA in the House, since objections are voted on on an individual basis.

TlalocW

[Proud liberal 80]

7. I am not saying his effort was legit or going to happen

It obviously didn’t happen...I was just saying that is what he was hoping for.

[Crunchy Frog]

10. He was delusional.

[bluestarone]

11. He WAS! BUT

RETHULICONS were following him! (That's the scary part)

[StarfishSaver]

21. He's too stupid to know that they ONLY way it goes to a state-by-state vote in the House

is if neither candidate gets a majority of votes in the Electoral College.

[jcgoldie]

24. Trumps "ultimate goal" ends after the next thing hes thinking about

Expecting that he had some grand plan gives him too much credit. He has no long term thought process. It ends at what makes trump feel big next.

Ie:

Step 1 : patriots “fight for trump”
Step 2: everybody sees how powerful I am
Step 3: wut?!? Is that a bucket of chicken?

[cntrfthrs]

26. isnt this a moot point?