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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsI'm SICK of so many repukes claiming Dems did not call out nor criticize violence over last summer
many did. I know Biden and Harris did.
MANY did!
This flat out lying and revisionist history is beyond disgusting as they gaslight a goddamn INSURRECTION!
ace3csusm
(969 posts)Mr.Bill
(24,319 posts)was that we encouraged it.
kimbutgar
(21,188 posts)And I dont remember the BLM protesters breaking into the capitol building, trashing it and breaking windows and stealing electronics.
Caliman73
(11,744 posts)They are purposely conflating the violence, which was very likely carried out in large part, but outsiders and right wingers trying to provoke a response; and the largely peaceful protestors like BLM.
Every Democrat said that the violence was unacceptable and needed to be stopped. They also said they understood why BLM and their allies were protesting (peacefully) the continued killing of unarmed Back Americans by police.
exboyfil
(17,865 posts)Including burning down a police station
maxsolomon
(33,400 posts)I wish there was a non-RW source that catalogued everything that "burned down".
All I know is the the Police Station at Seattle's CHAZ is still standing, and running like nothing happened.
exboyfil
(17,865 posts)maxsolomon
(33,400 posts)Black Panthers, huh?
Walleye
(31,045 posts)roamer65
(36,747 posts)They dont cancel each other out.
WRONG.
Ohioboy
(3,243 posts)The riots over the summer were subsequent to peaceful protests over a man being killed on video. They were the result of thugs taking advantage of unrest. Often times they were fights between Trump supporters(Proud Boys) and "Antifa" (the right's favorite faux enemy).
What happened at the capital was insurrection! Two entirely different things.
BeyondGeography
(39,379 posts)The way I see it, these people try their hardest to make us miserable and if we get killed in the process thats ok too.
Generic Brad
(14,275 posts)That statement was tossed around too. But the sources of the quotes were never identified or attributed to an elected Democratic leader.
GreatShakes66
(79 posts)or did they all just stick to their prepared speeches?
Roland99
(53,342 posts)BumRushDaShow
(129,440 posts)MR. SPEAKER, SOME OF US OBJECTED FOUR YEARS AGO AS A PROTEST VOTE TO RAISE CONCERNS ABOUT WHAT ALL OF OUR INTELLIGENCE AGENCIES HAD STATED CLEARLY -- THAT RUSSIA INTERFERED IN OUR ELECTION. BUT WHAT THE GENTLEMAN FAILS TO ACKNOWLEDGE IS THAT WE ALL ACKNOWLEDGED THAT DONALD TRUMP WAS THE PRESIDENT THE DAY AFTER THE ELECTION. HILLARY CLINTON CONCEDED THE DAY AFTER THE ELECTION. AND NONE OF US PUSHED CONSPIRACY THEORIES, LIKE SOME OF MY FRIENDS ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE AISLE HAVE BEEN DOING AND THIS PRESIDENT THAT SOMEHOW THAT IF THE PRESIDENT WON IN A LANDSLIDE. GIVE ME A BREAK. YESTERDAY IN THE RULES COMMITTEE I ASKED THE GENTLEMAN FROM OHIO IF HE WOULD JUST SAY FIVE SIMPLE WORDS. HE WAS TALKING ABOUT HEALING. FIVE SIMPLE WORDS THAT YOU CAN SAY THAT WILL HELP HEAL THIS NATION, THAT THE ELECTION WAS NOT STOLEN. THAT'S IT. FIVE SIMPLE WORDS. HE REFUSED. HE SAID HE NEVER SAID THE ELECTION WAS STOLEN. WELL, THE EVIDENCE SHOWS OTHERWISE. LET ME QUOTE FROM THIS DANA MILLBANK PIECE SAYING, FIVE PESKY LITTLE WORDS KEEP STUMPING JIM JORDAN. AND MR. SPEAKER, THE BOTTOM LINE IS THIS -- WE -- THIS CAPITOL WAS STORMED. PEOPLE DIED BECAUSE OF THE BIG LIES THAT WERE BEING TOLD BY THIS PRESIDENT AND BY TOO MANY PEOPLE ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE AISLE. ENOUGH. PEOPLE SHOULD BE OUTRAGED AS TO WHAT HAPPENED. IT WAS UNFORGIVEABLE, UNCONSCIONABLE, AND COMING UP ON THIS FLOOR AND TALKING ABOUT WHAT ABOUTISM AND TRYING TO MAKE THESE FALSE EQUIVALENCIES, GIVE ME A BREAK. THE PRESIDENT INSTIGATED, INSTIGATED AN ATTEMPTED COUP IN THIS COUNTRY. PEOPLE DIED. YOU SHOULD BE OUTRAGED, WHETHER YOU'RE DEMOCRAT OR REPUBLICAN. IF THIS IS NOT AN IMPEACHABLE OFFENSE, I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE HELL IS. THIS PRESIDENT IS NOT FIT TO REMAIN IN OFFICE. WITH THAT, I YIELD ONE MINUTE TO THE GENTLEMAN FROM OREGON, MR. DEFAZIO.
McGovern was referencing this regarding Gymsuit's refusal to say "five simple words" -
Link to tweet
TEXT
@Milbank
Impeaching Trump for inciting a violent attack on Congress is necessary but insufficient. His co-conspirators must be held to account, too.
Opinion | As more MAGA violence looms, impeaching Trump is insufficient
Even if Trump were removed in his final week, the punishment would be inadequate, because it lets his co-conspirators off the hook.
washingtonpost.com
8:10 PM · Jan 12, 2021
Opinion by Dana Milbank
Columnist
Jan. 12, 2021 at 8:02 p.m. EST
As lawmakers took up a resolution Tuesday to urge President Trumps removal under the 25th Amendment to the Constitution, Rep. Jim Jordan (Ohio), a captain of the Republican attempt to overturn the election, defended the months-long effort, which culminated in last weeks deadly riot at the Capitol. House Rules Committee Chairman Jim McGovern (D-Mass.) pleaded with his colleague to cut it out. There are still serious concerns about another attack here in Washington, D.C., and in every corner of this country because of the lies that the election was stolen, McGovern cautioned, noting FBI warnings about armed protests planned for Sunday at all 50 state capitols.
For the sake of the country, it would be helpful if you would simply state for the record that this election was not stolen," he urged Jordan. Those five words, I think, will go a long way to dissuading some of these people. Those five words were too much for Jordan. Now, you have to say exactly what the left wants, he complained. As for the election, Jordan added, I never once said it was stolen.
No? Right after the election, Jordan stood on the steps of the state Capitol in Harrisburg, Pa., at a Stop the Steal rally, surrounded by Stop the Steal signs and greeted by chants of Stop the Steal. He shouted into a bullhorn that our elections should have integrity. Later, he alleged, President Trump got 11 million more votes than he did in 2016 but somehow the guy who never left his house wins the election? He added that 60 million Americans think it was stolen.
Two days before the riot, he was on Newsmax complaining about the fraud and the unconstitutional fashion in which these elections were held. Jordan said, Its time for us to fight. On the day of the insurrection, he claimed Democrats did an end-run around the Constitution. In Trumps infamous speech last week, the president thanked Jordan by name for fighting the House. On Monday, he repaid Jordan by giving him the Presidential Medal of Freedom, the nations highest civilian honor. Yet now, after a MAGA mob sacked the Capitol, leaving five dead, Jordan claims he said nothing about the election being stolen? People like Jordan are why the effort to impeach Trump, which the House takes up Wednesday, is both imperative and insufficient.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2021/01/12/more-maga-violence-looms-impeaching-trump-is-insufficient/
malaise
(269,157 posts)Last edited Thu Jan 14, 2021, 08:06 AM - Edit history (1)
not the same as trying to overthrow the legislative branch of government so that your leader remains president.
Insurrection is neither a protest not a riot.
And you are right - they are liars.
JHB
(37,161 posts)...whereas the other "protest" was based top-to-bottom on sheer paranoid fantasy.
"Stolen election"? Nothing held up in court, even when Trump-appointed judges presided.
And their fear of an apocalyptic communist takeover? That's not "your brain on drugs" fried, it's a whole case of eggs tossed into an industrial incinerator.
malaise
(269,157 posts)As Rep Lizzie Fletcher said it was gaslighting, but it was also obfuscation - muddying the fucking water as if they were remotely similar. People have the right to protest but sedition is a crime.
DeeDeeNY
(3,356 posts)Republicans will divert any subject to bring up something about Democrats: What about ...? Even though the the situations are never in the least bit analogous.