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Who will citizen Trump hire to represent him in the impeachment trial"
I am hoping it's Sidney Powell.
lisa58
(5,755 posts)sheshe2
(83,898 posts)If they add Powell they will be the Three Stooges.
H2O Man
(73,605 posts)in order to be taken seriously. (grin)
I'm not really familiar with her past, but a friend told me that in years past, she seemed intelligent and capable. I am curious what happened? Was she merely feigning sanity in the past, or did she have a horrible break from reality?
sheshe2
(83,898 posts)Vivienne235729
(3,384 posts)a reporter noted that Dershowitz told her he won't be.
BainsBane
(53,066 posts)Giuliani might not take the case.
The Velveteen Ocelot
(115,837 posts)H2O Man
(73,605 posts)I plum forgot Lin. Hopefully, I can forget him twice.
alwaysinasnit
(5,072 posts)H2O Man
(73,605 posts)fully capable of screwing up two cases at once. While I recognize you are right, I still have hope.
alwaysinasnit
(5,072 posts)Response to H2O Man (Original post)
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GopherGal
(2,009 posts)Or his PAC? The one they diverted the "help us win the Georgia run-offs!" money to?
If the Tangerine Tyrant has a skill, it's spending other people's money.
Speculation on how he can spend his PAC money didn't really clarify anything for me:
[link:https://www.cbsnews.com/news/trumps-save-america-pac-is-raking-in-donations-what-can-that-money-be-spent-on/|]
[link:https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2020/12/01/what-trump-familys-new-political-committees-can-cant-do/|]
[link:https://www.huffpost.com/entry/trump-slush-fund_n_5fc6a4cac5b66bb88c6b0b2e|]
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H2O Man
(73,605 posts)Michael Cohen is happy tonight.
voteearlyvoteoften
(1,716 posts)Hoping for the incompetent lawyer appeal perhaps?
ms liberty
(8,597 posts)To whom does he owe the least amount of money? Who wants to ingratiate themselves with him or his family?
It will be someone in one of those groups. There seem to be any number of the repulsive things crawling around in the primordial ooze of the grifter's cesspool, so it's anybody's guess as to which one will win the contest.
H2O Man
(73,605 posts)Surely no one who anticipates being paid.
I have spoken with many people of my generation in the past few days. Everyone is in full agreement that this is the lowest point for our nation in our lifetimes. A waking nightmare.
Kid Berwyn
(14,955 posts)Better representation than Dump deserves, but the TLH might accept trade.
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Kid Berwyn
(14,955 posts)Maybe a GoFundMe can help retain Dan Muessig of the Commonwealth of Pennsylvania:
Thanks, Dan!
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That "commercial" defines the new reality of much of America today!
Could you have imagined it could possibly get this much worse after Nixon?
Kid Berwyn
(14,955 posts)Bell Book Says Officials Told Racist Jokes : Reagan Aide Says He Doubts Claim by Ex-Education Secretary
October 21, 1987|Associated Press
WASHINGTON President Reagan's first secretary of education says mid-level Administration officials made racist jokes and other scurrilous remarks during civil rights discussions, but Reagan's chief spokesman said Tuesday he does not believe it.
Terrel H. Bell, in a memoir of Reagan's first term, said the slurs included references to the late Dr. Martin Luther King Jr. as "Martin Lucifer Coon" and calling Title IX, a federal law guaranteeing women equal educational opportunity, "the lesbian's bill of rights."
SNIP...
Bell did not identify those who made the racist or scurrilous comments. He could not be reached for further comment.
In his book, he says the jokes about King were made as Reagan was deciding whether to sign or veto a bill establishing King's birthday as a national holiday. He eventually signed it.
Bell said: "I do not mean to imply that these scurrilous remarks were common utterances in the rooms and corridors of the White House and the Old Executive Office Building, but I heard them when issues related to civil rights enforcement weighed heavily on my mind."
Bell added: "It seemed obvious they were said for my benefit, since they often accompanied sardonic references to 'Comrade Bell.' "
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http://articles.latimes.com/1987-10-21/news/mn-9912_1_racist-jokes
Saving Private Property
Totally Tunsie
(10,885 posts)a commercial such as this will work to sell?
No wonder we're f*ed.
Kid Berwyn
(14,955 posts)In the 1930s, the Germans were fascinated by the global leader in codified racismthe United States.
IRA KATZNELSON
The Atlantic, NOVEMBER 2017
(Book review): Hitler's American Model: the United States and the Making of Nazi Race Law
BY JAMES Q. WHITMAN PRINCETON
There was no more extravagant site for Third Reich political theater than the spectacular parade grounds, two large stadiums, and congress hall in Nuremberg, a project masterminded by Albert Speer. From 1933 to 1938, he choreographed massive rallies associated with the annual conference of the Nazi Party, assemblies made famous by Leni Riefenstahls stunning documentaries of 1933 and 1935, The Victory of Faith and Triumph of the Will. Nuremberg was the setting for the September 1935 Party Rally of Freedom, at which a special session of the Reichstag passed, by acclamation, legislation that disqualified Jews as Reich citizens with political rights, forbade them to marry or have sex with persons identified as racial Germans, and prohibited any display by Jews of national colors or the new national flag, a banner with a swastika.
Just eight days after the Reich Citizenship Law, the Law on the Protection of German Blood and German Honor, and the Reich Flag Law were formally proclaimed by Adolf Hitler, 45 Nazi lawyers sailed for New York under the auspices of the Association of National Socialist German Jurists. The trip was a reward for the lawyers, who had codified the Reichs race-based legal philosophy. The announced purpose of the visit was to gain special insight into the workings of American legal and economic life through study and lectures, and the leader of the group was Ludwig Fischer. As the governor of the Warsaw District half a decade later, he would preside over the brutal order of the ghetto.
Every day brings fresh reminders that liberal and illiberal democracy can entwine uncomfortably, a timely context for James Q. Whitmans Hitlers American Model, which examines how the Third Reich found sustenance for its race-based initiatives in American law. Upon docking, the Germans attended a reception organized by the New York City Bar Association. Everyone in the room would have known about the recent events in Nuremberg, yet the quest by leading Nazi jurists to learn from Americas legal and economic systems was warmly welcomed.
Whitman, a professor at Yale Law School, wanted to know how the United States, a country grounded in such liberal principles as individual rights and the rule of law, could have produced legal ideas and practices that seemed intriguing and attractive to Nazis. In exploring this apparent incongruity, his short book raises important questions about law, about political decisions that affect the scope of civic membership, and about the malleability of Enlightenment values.
Pushing back against scholarship that downplays the impact in Nazi Germany of the U.S. model of legal racism, Whitman marshals an array of evidence to support the likelihood that the Nuremberg Laws themselves reflect direct American influence. As race laws global leader, Whitman stresses, America provided the most obvious point of reference for the September 1933 Preußische Denkschrift, the Prussian Memorandum, written by a legal team that included Roland Freisler, soon to emerge as the remarkably cruel president of the Nazi Peoples Court. American precedents also informed other crucial Nazi texts, including the National Socialist Handbook for Law and Legislation of 193435, edited by the future governor-general of Poland, Hans Frank, who was later hung at Nuremberg. A pivotal essay in that volume, Herbert Kiers recommendations for race legislation, devoted a quarter of its pages to U.S. legislationwhich went beyond segregation to include rules governing American Indians, citizenship criteria for Filipinos and Puerto Ricans as well as African Americans, immigration regulations, and prohibitions against miscegenation in some 30 states. No other country, not even South Africa, possessed a comparably developed set of relevant laws.
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https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2017/11/what-america-taught-the-nazis/540630/
Defenders with creativity arent always a good thing.