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Posted without comment (Original Post) DemocratSinceBirth Jan 2021 OP
To quote Trump, "You knew ... I was a snake when you took me in." n/t Yonnie3 Jan 2021 #1
"I have backed this President through thick and thin for four years. I campaigned for him Dark n Stormy Knight Jan 2021 #2
What did that cop say? Oh yeah, "Thanks, but fuck you for being here." Wounded Bear Jan 2021 #5
This is an important point StarfishSaver Jan 2021 #3
PRECISELY DemocratSinceBirth Jan 2021 #4
And, just as important StarfishSaver Jan 2021 #6
Good point. Thanks, counsellor. :) Hortensis Jan 2021 #7
He didn't try to interrupt it because he was actually reveling in the violence. DemocratSinceBirth Jan 2021 #8
Trump's inaction after the riots began are evidence of his intent to incite them StarfishSaver Jan 2021 #9

Dark n Stormy Knight

(9,771 posts)
2. "I have backed this President through thick and thin for four years. I campaigned for him
Fri Jan 15, 2021, 12:32 AM
Jan 2021

and voted for him twice. But, this utter failure is inexcusable."

Better late than never, but you, Lovegrove, have for 4 years been complicit. You have blood on your hands. Lives were lost thanks to you and others in your craven, crooked, hypocritical party supporting the fascist in the WH through countless anti-democratic, reckless, self-serving acts. You enabled him in all of it. And with the least bit of clear, honest judgment could easily have seen this coming.

 

StarfishSaver

(18,486 posts)
3. This is an important point
Fri Jan 15, 2021, 12:36 AM
Jan 2021

Republicans don't have to go so far to acknowledge that Trump incited the riot. But they should be tee-totally pissed off that, once the insurrection began, he did absolutely nothing about it.

That, by itself, is more than enough to impeach and convict him.

DemocratSinceBirth

(99,711 posts)
4. PRECISELY
Fri Jan 15, 2021, 11:44 AM
Jan 2021

We can debate endlessly whether or not Trump's speech was protected by the First Amendment. What is not debatable is by consistently telling his supporters the election was stolen and they needed to right it he is morally responsible for the mayhem that took place on January 6th and continues to take place.

 

StarfishSaver

(18,486 posts)
6. And, just as important
Fri Jan 15, 2021, 11:51 AM
Jan 2021

Even accepting the bs argument that he was not responsible for inciting it, how can anyone justify his complete inaction once it began?

DemocratSinceBirth

(99,711 posts)
8. He didn't try to interrupt it because he was actually reveling in the violence.
Fri Jan 15, 2021, 12:00 PM
Jan 2021

Brandenburg V Ohio established that for speech to be criminally actionable it has to be "directed to inciting or producing imminent lawless action and is likely to incite or produce such action". Trump as he is always want to do sprinkled in directives to the mob to be "peaceful" while also telling them they needed to protect "strength".

Anyway lots of protected speech is potentially impeachable. It doesn't take much imagination to think of examples.

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