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SunSeeker

(51,745 posts)
Fri Jan 15, 2021, 03:02 AM Jan 2021

The idiot with the Confederate flag in the Capitol is from Delaware.

Last edited Fri Jan 15, 2021, 04:02 AM - Edit history (1)

"A man who was seen in the Capitol holding a Confederate flag during last week’s riot by supporters of President Donald Trump turned himself in to authorities on Thursday.

Kevin Seefried and his son Hunter surrendered to the U.S. Marshals' office Thursday morning in Wilmington, Delaware, the FBI confirmed to NBC News.

The Seefrieds face one count each of knowingly entering or remaining in any restricted building or grounds without lawful authority, violent entry and disorderly conduct on Capitol grounds and depredation of government property, according to the U.S. Attorney's Office for the District of Columbia.

Kevin Seefried admitted to investigators in a voluntary interview that he had brought the Confederate flag from his home in Delaware, where it is usually displayed outside, according to charging documents."

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/man-holding-confederate-flag-capitol-during-pro-trump-riot-turns-n1254307?cid=referral_taboolafeed


So much for the claim that the Confederate battle flag just represents "Southern pride." These guys are from Delaware. The Confederate battle flag represents white supremacy. Period.

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The idiot with the Confederate flag in the Capitol is from Delaware. (Original Post) SunSeeker Jan 2021 OP
Huh? The article and your excerpt both say he is from Delaware. (Nt) FreepFryer Jan 2021 #1
Sorry, I fixed it. Same point though. The guys are freaking yankees. SunSeeker Jan 2021 #8
True enough. Tbh, I was just glad the Canadian rumor turned out false :) FreepFryer Jan 2021 #9
What Canadian rumor? nt SunSeeker Jan 2021 #14
That was an in-line rumor on one of the most viewed twitter threads after he was named. FreepFryer Jan 2021 #15
What a crappy father. mahina Jan 2021 #2
And crappy neighbor. He flew that Confederate flag outside his home. SunSeeker Jan 2021 #16
Yes it does... CatMor Jan 2021 #3
Not only the rural areas - drive around South Philadelphia and you'll encounter the traitors flag. GoneOffShore Jan 2021 #17
Message auto-removed Name removed Jan 2021 #4
Delaware ornotna Jan 2021 #5
Yes. SunSeeker Jan 2021 #13
Agreed ornotna Jan 2021 #20
I've been to southern Delaware many times. They call it slower lower For a reason. fearnobush Jan 2021 #6
Some of those small eastern states surprised me... Buckeye_Democrat Jan 2021 #11
He's from Delaware, a former slave state, albeit one which did not secede in 1861. NNadir Jan 2021 #7
There were slaves in all 13 colonies, but Delaware was never a Confederate state. SunSeeker Jan 2021 #12
Delaware's rural southern region and the border area appalachiablue Jan 2021 #18
It represents white supremacy. Always has. JI7 Jan 2021 #10
Northwest of Chicago BeerBarrelPolka Jan 2021 #19
So with a son named Hunter oswaldactedalone Jan 2021 #21

FreepFryer

(7,077 posts)
9. True enough. Tbh, I was just glad the Canadian rumor turned out false :)
Fri Jan 15, 2021, 04:12 AM
Jan 2021

These people are cosplaytriots.

FreepFryer

(7,077 posts)
15. That was an in-line rumor on one of the most viewed twitter threads after he was named.
Fri Jan 15, 2021, 04:48 AM
Jan 2021

Not sure if he shares the name w a Canadian but it was claimed that he lived in CAN and ran a bike gang.

Clearly the reality (Delaware residing open seditionist) is waaaaay more cool.

SunSeeker

(51,745 posts)
16. And crappy neighbor. He flew that Confederate flag outside his home.
Fri Jan 15, 2021, 05:11 AM
Jan 2021

His neighbors, I am sure, were not surprised to hear he was involved.

CatMor

(6,212 posts)
3. Yes it does...
Fri Jan 15, 2021, 03:07 AM
Jan 2021

if you drive around rural areas in the north they are always around. The only good thing about it is the flag identifies the racists for what they are, deplorable.

GoneOffShore

(17,342 posts)
17. Not only the rural areas - drive around South Philadelphia and you'll encounter the traitors flag.
Fri Jan 15, 2021, 05:36 AM
Jan 2021

Plus there are people up in Northeast Philadelphia of the same ilk.

There's a whole thread on Facebook regarding a guy in a semi-gentrified neighborhood of Philadelphia where I used to live who has up the traitor's flag, pmurT flags, etc, etc. He's pretty far out there and all the neighbors can't stand him.

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fearnobush

(3,960 posts)
6. I've been to southern Delaware many times. They call it slower lower For a reason.
Fri Jan 15, 2021, 03:36 AM
Jan 2021

I’ve also been to rural Alabama, Mississippi, Louisiana Etc. Out of all those places there is none quite like interior southern Delaware.

Buckeye_Democrat

(14,858 posts)
11. Some of those small eastern states surprised me...
Fri Jan 15, 2021, 04:21 AM
Jan 2021

... in the past for having any rural areas at all. Lol!

I should visit those states someday. The upper NE USA and some other eastern states (such as DE) are about the only ones that I've never visited in the continental USA. Yet that area is the most amenable to interstate travel because of less distance.

SunSeeker

(51,745 posts)
12. There were slaves in all 13 colonies, but Delaware was never a Confederate state.
Fri Jan 15, 2021, 04:23 AM
Jan 2021

Last edited Fri Jan 15, 2021, 05:06 AM - Edit history (1)

 It was not until late into the Revolutionary War period that the former New England colonies began outlawing slavery fully. Vermont was first, followed by Massachusetts, New Hampshire, Connecticut, and Rhode Island in the 1840s. https://www.nationalgeographic.org/article/new-england-colonies-use-slaves/12th-grade/ Lincoln's 1863 Emancipation plan freed the slaves in the rebellious states, but those in border states like Delaware were not affected until the passage of the Thirteenth Amendment in December 1865, when Delaware finally became a free state, even though it was always a Union state.

appalachiablue

(41,182 posts)
18. Delaware's rural southern region and the border area
Fri Jan 15, 2021, 07:36 AM
Jan 2021

of Maryland had an active crime ring in the early 19th century that kidnapped blacks (slave and free) and transported or sold them to states in the deep south- as in the story of Solomon Northup. Eastern Maryland also had many 'slave growing farms' then which sold people south when cotton was rising. Harriet Tubman and Frederick Douglass are two notable black people from that area which is very racist to this day.

States that didn't join the Confederacy could still have horrible views on race. I lived in and have been going to Delmarva since childhood with Md. relatives who have been there for many years. There's also West Virginia which never had much slavery at all, seceded from Virginia in 1861 when the Civil War started and joined the Union, but is now considered 'southern' by the federal Census Bureau which is nuts.

BeerBarrelPolka

(1,202 posts)
19. Northwest of Chicago
Fri Jan 15, 2021, 08:32 AM
Jan 2021

In the northwest counties outside of Chicago there are many confederate flags as well as Trump flags. Wisconsin as well.

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