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kansasobama

(609 posts)
Fri Jan 15, 2021, 06:39 PM Jan 2021

Best advice for Democrats

Thomas Friedman- NY Times- Jan 13, 2021
Friedman -“Be smart: Ban the phrase “defund the police.” Talk instead about “better policing,” which everyone can get behind. Instead of “democratic socialism,” talk about “more just and inclusive capitalism.” And tone down the politically correct cancel culture”

In short, left wing should be smart and cool it. Increase majority in the House and Senate in 2022. That is very critical. Govern center-left.

https://www.sltrib.com/opinion/commentary/2021/01/13/thomas-l-friedman-trump/

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Best advice for Democrats (Original Post) kansasobama Jan 2021 OP
Hire a Frank Luntz type... kirby Jan 2021 #1
..and openly refer to the Republicans as "fascists" DonaldsRump Jan 2021 #2
Ya know, I so often think to myself... ret5hd Jan 2021 #3
This. n/t ms liberty Jan 2021 #4
*snort* OAITW r.2.0 Jan 2021 #5
Lot of times, left is after Biden even before he has taken office kansasobama Jan 2021 #6
This message was self-deleted by its author Celerity Jan 2021 #7
We could have hit Saudi Arabia. We could have hit Pakistan. We hit Iraq, because we could. Make7 Jan 2021 #8

DonaldsRump

(7,715 posts)
2. ..and openly refer to the Republicans as "fascists"
Fri Jan 15, 2021, 06:44 PM
Jan 2021

to counter the "socialist" and "communist" labels thrown at us.

Fair's fair. There is no high road right now until this other Trump virus is eradicated.

kansasobama

(609 posts)
6. Lot of times, left is after Biden even before he has taken office
Fri Jan 15, 2021, 06:47 PM
Jan 2021

AOC group should cool it. Let Biden govern. Try to increase house majority and increase Senate seats so that we are not hostage to Manchins. Manchin is going to suck us dry to get things passed.

Response to kansasobama (Original post)

Make7

(8,543 posts)
8. We could have hit Saudi Arabia. We could have hit Pakistan. We hit Iraq, because we could.
Fri Jan 15, 2021, 06:54 PM
Jan 2021
I think it was unquestionably worth doing Charlie, and I think that looking back that I now certainly feel I understand what the war was about and it’s interesting to talk about it here in silicon valley because I think looking back at the 1990s I can identify there are actually three bubbles of the 1990s, there was the Nasdaq bubble, there was the corporate governance bubble, and lastly there was what I would call the terrorism bubble, and the first two were based on creative accounting and the last two were based on moral creative accounting.

The terrorism bubble that built up over the 1990s said flying airplanes into the World Trade Center, that’s Ok. Wrapping yourself with dynamite and blowing up Israelis in the pizza parlour, that’s Ok. Because we’re weak and they’re strong and the weak have a different morality. Having your preachers say that’s Ok? That’s Ok. Having your charities raise money for people who do these kinds of things? That’s Ok. And having your press call people who do these kind of things martyrs? That’s Ok. And that build up as a bubble, Charlie. And 9/11 to me was the peak of that bubble. And what we learned on 9/11 in a gut way was that bubble was a fundamental threat to our society because there is no wall high enough no INS agent smart enough no metal detector efficient enough to protect an open society from people motivated by that bubble. And what we needed to do was to go over to that part of the world and burst that bubble.

We needed to go over there basically uhm, and, uh, uhm take out a very big stick, right in the heart of that world and burst that bubble. And there was only one way to do it because part of that bubble said ‘we’ve got you’ this bubble is actually going to level the balance of power between us and you because we don’t care about life, we’re ready to sacrifice and all you care about is your stock options and your hummers. And what they needed to see was American boys and girls going house to house from Basra to Baghdad uhm, and basically saying which part of this sentence don’t you understand. You don’t think we care about our open society, you think this bubble fantasy we’re going to just let it go, well suck on this. Ok. That, Charlie, was what this war was about. We could have hit Saudi Arabia. It was part of that bubble. We could have hit Pakistan, We hit Iraq, because we could. And that’s the real truth.

https://www.csmonitor.com/World/Security-Watch/Backchannels/2013/0318/Thomas-Friedman-Iraq-war-booster
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