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It's watched Bill Mahr and am furious that the first voice I had to listen to was . . . post (Original Post) Liberal In Red State Jan 2021 OP
it's washed? Skittles Jan 2021 #1
Yikes Catcar Jan 2021 #2
He ridiculed her well enough. I'm enjoying watching these losers and enablers Hoyt Jan 2021 #3
I thought he let her make a fool of herself demtenjeep Jan 2021 #5
Yep, and Maher smirked every time. Thought it was a good show. Hoyt Jan 2021 #7
Bill Maher...such a self serving jerk. No thanks Thekaspervote Jan 2021 #4
Washed??? USALiberal Jan 2021 #6
most of the time.... quickesst Jan 2021 #8
What uncomfortable truths? Dem4Life1102 Jan 2021 #9
just one example........ quickesst Jan 2021 #11
That was definitely one of Maher's best rants Silent3 Jan 2021 #12
that's a very good analogy.... quickesst Jan 2021 #14
Tired of the left bashing JonLP24 Jan 2021 #17
That's not an uncomfortable truth Dem4Life1102 Jan 2021 #13
Lol, nice try! Nt USALiberal Jan 2021 #15
No it's the truth Dem4Life1102 Jan 2021 #16
Here is the thing. quickesst Jan 2021 #18
I agree that the left doesn't have a hive mentality Dem4Life1102 Jan 2021 #19
How so? quickesst Jan 2021 #20
Because the left doesn't have a hive mentality Dem4Life1102 Jan 2021 #21
what part of.... quickesst Jan 2021 #22
But your original statement didn't say many Dem4Life1102 Jan 2021 #23
reading comprehension quickesst Jan 2021 #24
When you don't qualify it Dem4Life1102 Jan 2021 #25
just because.... quickesst Jan 2021 #26
You provided one example that wasn't Dem4Life1102 Jan 2021 #28
last post quickesst Jan 2021 #31
Big deal Dem4Life1102 Jan 2021 #32
last last post quickesst Jan 2021 #33
Nice dodge Dem4Life1102 Jan 2021 #36
Conway sucked but Couric was good. jalan48 Jan 2021 #10
I like her, but found it super annoying moonscape Jan 2021 #27
Bill Maher is a smarmier Dick Cavett with less charisma, no moral compass and pothead rage. FreepFryer Jan 2021 #29
Don't restrict the "gives a shit" comment to the under-50 crowd. Paladin Jan 2021 #34
Nice FreepFryer Jan 2021 #35
He gave three million dollars to PACs to get Democrats elected. betsuni Jan 2021 #30
 

Hoyt

(54,770 posts)
3. He ridiculed her well enough. I'm enjoying watching these losers and enablers
Sat Jan 16, 2021, 12:03 AM
Jan 2021

try to rationalize — lie about — the last 4 years plus 2016 campaigning.

 

Hoyt

(54,770 posts)
7. Yep, and Maher smirked every time. Thought it was a good show.
Sat Jan 16, 2021, 12:13 AM
Jan 2021

Lot of different views in discussion group.

quickesst

(6,280 posts)
8. most of the time....
Sat Jan 16, 2021, 12:50 AM
Jan 2021

.... The vilification of Bill Maher is usually caused by his not being afraid to confront the right wing which a lot of Democrats take completely out of context as offering a platform for right-wing views. I see it as exposing them to the public. Another reason for his vilification is his courage to speak some uncomfortable truths about the left. It would be nice, but we are not perfect, and Bill Maher does not preach to the choir.

quickesst

(6,280 posts)
11. just one example........
Sat Jan 16, 2021, 07:43 AM
Jan 2021

.... and if you don't believe Bill Maher, listen to the Democratic politicians in this segment. People on the left don't want to hear rhetoric like this, but they need to in order to improve their message.

https://m.

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Silent3

(15,221 posts)
12. That was definitely one of Maher's best rants
Sat Jan 16, 2021, 08:06 AM
Jan 2021

I think he can be an asshole sometimes too, and I certainly don't agree with him on some issues. But it's GOOD to listen to people you don't agree with. In fact, that's a big part of what Maher is on about when it comes to Democrats -- we've got to give up having so many "woke" purity tests.

You can either have a very small group of allies who fit into some rigid orthodoxy, or you have a big group of allies, and all the extra votes and power that brings, by learning to be tolerant of not just racial and ethnic and sexual and physical diversity, but tolerant of some philosophical and political diversity as well.

JonLP24

(29,322 posts)
17. Tired of the left bashing
Sat Jan 16, 2021, 11:02 AM
Jan 2021

When right wing extremists stormed the Capitol. We don't have to do shit. The right need to keep their extremists in line who BTW are also hate groups.

DC is secured like a war zone and the right wing is to blame.

 

Dem4Life1102

(3,974 posts)
13. That's not an uncomfortable truth
Sat Jan 16, 2021, 09:18 AM
Jan 2021

It’s something that has been well discussed here and in many other venues.

So any other examples?

quickesst

(6,280 posts)
18. Here is the thing.
Sat Jan 16, 2021, 11:04 AM
Jan 2021

I could spend my time chasing down more examples for you, but no matter how many I present there will always be people who have discussed each one and do not view it as uncomfortable. On the other hand, there are many on the left who would take umbrage with every example I might present. Everyone on the left does not think exactly the same as you do. The left is not a hive with a hive mentality. Our opinions and the ways we deal with certain issues are many, and are highly diverse.

 

Dem4Life1102

(3,974 posts)
19. I agree that the left doesn't have a hive mentality
Sat Jan 16, 2021, 11:18 AM
Jan 2021

and opinions are highly diverse. All of which disprove your original claim.

 

Dem4Life1102

(3,974 posts)
21. Because the left doesn't have a hive mentality
Sat Jan 16, 2021, 12:14 PM
Jan 2021

as you said what might be uncomfortable for some is not for others. Thus there are no uncomfortable truths for all the left.

quickesst

(6,280 posts)
22. what part of....
Sat Jan 16, 2021, 06:46 PM
Jan 2021

.... "many on the left" do you not understand? I never said, nor implied that all of the left took umbrage to what Bill Maher has said. Show me anywhere in my posts the phrase, "All the left".

 

Dem4Life1102

(3,974 posts)
23. But your original statement didn't say many
Sat Jan 16, 2021, 07:08 PM
Jan 2021

It said:

Another reason for his vilification is his courage to speak some uncomfortable truths about the left.

Which indicated all.

quickesst

(6,280 posts)
24. reading comprehension
Sat Jan 16, 2021, 07:23 PM
Jan 2021

He does speak some uncomfortable truths about the left, but as I have told you, nowhere in my posts, original or otherwise did I state that it made all of the left uncomfortable. Taking my words completely out of context will not morph your accusation into a true statement. There is only one person I can think of that could pull off that hat trick.🤔

 

Dem4Life1102

(3,974 posts)
25. When you don't qualify it
Sat Jan 16, 2021, 07:38 PM
Jan 2021

It implies all the left. And you still haven’t shown an example for any of these “uncomfortable truths”.

quickesst

(6,280 posts)
26. just because....
Sun Jan 17, 2021, 12:35 AM
Jan 2021

.... You did not take umbrage, or feel uncomfortable, as you claim, with the examples I presented in the video that does not mean everyone on the left felt the same way. For some reason you seem to not be able to get away from the concept of a hive mentality on the left. As for what you deem qualifying, I believe there is a difference when it comes to understanding a simple concept by a reasonable adult which should not require qualification, and a complicated multi-level concept that may require qualification for that same reasonable adult. All I can say is, if you fail to understand my point by now, then further explanation will not change that, and would only be a waste of both our time.

 

Dem4Life1102

(3,974 posts)
28. You provided one example that wasn't
Sun Jan 17, 2021, 03:59 AM
Jan 2021

an uncomfortable truth but something well discussed. You failed to provide any other examples and you brought up hive mentality, not me, which undermines your original statement.

quickesst

(6,280 posts)
31. last post
Sun Jan 17, 2021, 08:53 AM
Jan 2021

It seems that of the several replies I have received concerning my original statement, yours is the only negative I can see. I am good with that outcome. Stay safe.

quickesst

(6,280 posts)
33. last last post
Sun Jan 17, 2021, 09:08 AM
Jan 2021

Backing up my claim to you is like backing up my claim to trump supporters that there was no widespread voter fraud. They won't ever believe it, no matter what.

moonscape

(4,673 posts)
27. I like her, but found it super annoying
Sun Jan 17, 2021, 12:38 AM
Jan 2021

how she would not stop talking, inerrupted, and would not let others interject when she hogged the mic.

FreepFryer

(7,077 posts)
29. Bill Maher is a smarmier Dick Cavett with less charisma, no moral compass and pothead rage.
Sun Jan 17, 2021, 04:47 AM
Jan 2021

No one I know under 50 gives a shit about what he has to say since he started posturing as an ersatz libertarian (which means false equivalences, refusal to acknowledge matters of diversity and fairness, and mean spiritedness).

Humor on a higher level, I know - but he used to be a whole lot kinder.

Paladin

(28,264 posts)
34. Don't restrict the "gives a shit" comment to the under-50 crowd.
Sun Jan 17, 2021, 09:10 AM
Jan 2021

I'm 70, and I walked away from Maher years ago. Got tired of his regular trashing of liberals, right-wing drooler guests, etc. Life is too short.

betsuni

(25,537 posts)
30. He gave three million dollars to PACs to get Democrats elected.
Sun Jan 17, 2021, 05:41 AM
Jan 2021

Michael Moore was on his show and asked him, incredulously, how he could do that.

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