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Bullhorn Lady Voice Comparison (Video) 1:14 (Original Post) doublethink Jan 2021 OP
This message was self-deleted by its author Chin music Jan 2021 #1
K&R MustLoveBeagles Jan 2021 #2
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Looks like same face? Both faces have deep lines on either side of nose. Same small fatty deposits Irish_Dem Jan 2021 #4
The chin is the first thing I noticed with her daughter BigmanPigman Jan 2021 #17
If we can see it with bare eyes, I am sure FBI has facial recognition software, etc that can Irish_Dem Jan 2021 #43
I'm sure they do. BigmanPigman Jan 2021 #44
I am sure they have sophisticated facial recognition software. Irish_Dem Jan 2021 #45
I still do it if I am in a hurry... BigmanPigman Jan 2021 #46
I remember tracing paper that we used when I was a child. Irish_Dem Jan 2021 #47
Kick dalton99a Jan 2021 #5
It's not the mom, come on greenjar_01 Jan 2021 #6
This message was self-deleted by its author Chin music Jan 2021 #10
We agree on the hair greenjar_01 Jan 2021 #12
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The woman with the bullhorn likely has no relation at all to Boebert greenjar_01 Jan 2021 #15
This message was self-deleted by its author Chin music Jan 2021 #32
I'm with you. They don't sound alike. They don't look alike kcr Jan 2021 #23
The mother is short, like bullhorn lady. And blurry photos make people look younger. Bernardo de La Paz Jan 2021 #25
I bet she exaggerates her speech. I don't think she sounds like that all the time. 58Sunliner Jan 2021 #49
Honestly, it's not close greenjar_01 Jan 2021 #50
The FBI is looking elsewhere. 58Sunliner Jan 2021 #51
Bullhorn has a faint Great Lakes vowel shift (to my ear) greenjar_01 Jan 2021 #52
Conclusively not her, then--younger and thinner. BusyBeingBest Jan 2021 #54
Wow. Dem2theMax Jan 2021 #7
Wouldn't Investigators Be Able To Run Voice Analysis Patterns..... global1 Jan 2021 #8
Joan Rivers? jcgoldie Jan 2021 #9
This message was self-deleted by its author Chin music Jan 2021 #11
It's close enough to warrant further investigation. tinrobot Jan 2021 #14
pink hat lady looks a lot younger and thinner Orangepeel Jan 2021 #16
I think so too nt renate Jan 2021 #19
Agreed kcr Jan 2021 #22
Blurred photos makes people look younger. Some she looks older. Winter clothing is deceptive Bernardo de La Paz Jan 2021 #28
Remember when the Break & Entering woman got shot in the Capitol? Lots of people Bernardo de La Paz Jan 2021 #36
Good point. Buckeye_Democrat Jan 2021 #38
I will wait for conclusive proof. orangecrush Jan 2021 #18
Sure looks and sounds like the same woman to me! SunSeeker Jan 2021 #20
And mother admitted (crowed) she got a "detailed" tour about the 3rd when Boebert sworn in. nt Bernardo de La Paz Jan 2021 #26
Is there a picture of the mom's sister ? OnDoutside Jan 2021 #21
Seems like a decent match to me. Buckeye_Democrat Jan 2021 #24
Bullhorns distort sound. The mother is short like bullhorn lady is. Same sunglasses as she wears Bernardo de La Paz Jan 2021 #27
It's the body shape that's keeping me skeptical. Buckeye_Democrat Jan 2021 #29
As you say, winter clothing is deceptive Bernardo de La Paz Jan 2021 #30
Yep, and black often has a thinning effect too. Buckeye_Democrat Jan 2021 #31
I am sure I saw a photo of Boebert's mother with sunglasses with the same logo on the sides Bernardo de La Paz Jan 2021 #34
I've only seen one pic with her wearing sunglasses... Buckeye_Democrat Jan 2021 #40
Thx. Multiples, at street rally, other rallies, etc, but she is always face front in them, except 1 Bernardo de La Paz Jan 2021 #41
In regard to the end of the video... Buckeye_Democrat Jan 2021 #33
very strong voice and face similarities, I believe it's her Demonaut Jan 2021 #35
The FBI probably has voice recognition software to prove one way or the other. Vinca Jan 2021 #37
A lot of hits and matches, a whole lot. We will see! (Nt) FreepFryer Jan 2021 #39
Sounds like the same woman to me. Tommymac Jan 2021 #42
The mom has a Southern accent Sanity Claws Jan 2021 #48
Voice is similar. Still not sold on weight/build. BusyBeingBest Jan 2021 #53
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Irish_Dem

(47,131 posts)
4. Looks like same face? Both faces have deep lines on either side of nose. Same small fatty deposits
Sat Jan 16, 2021, 01:20 AM
Jan 2021

on bottom sides of mouth. Chin looks the same.

BigmanPigman

(51,610 posts)
17. The chin is the first thing I noticed with her daughter
Sat Jan 16, 2021, 03:15 AM
Jan 2021

the other day. It is so pointy you can open a can with it. Mother and daughter both have the extremely pointy chin.

Irish_Dem

(47,131 posts)
43. If we can see it with bare eyes, I am sure FBI has facial recognition software, etc that can
Sat Jan 16, 2021, 12:35 PM
Jan 2021

detect the same face even when in disguise.

BigmanPigman

(51,610 posts)
44. I'm sure they do.
Sat Jan 16, 2021, 05:27 PM
Jan 2021

They could always use a window as a light box and put mom's photo on the window and put daughter's face
over it and compare and contrast the overlayed images. If they lack other, more sophisticated procedures I'm sure they at least have a window. It worked for me when I drew portraits as a kid.

Irish_Dem

(47,131 posts)
45. I am sure they have sophisticated facial recognition software.
Sat Jan 16, 2021, 05:33 PM
Jan 2021

That is a neat system you made as a child!

BigmanPigman

(51,610 posts)
46. I still do it if I am in a hurry...
Sat Jan 16, 2021, 05:42 PM
Jan 2021

It makes tracing anything easy. When I turned 8 I finally got a 9×12 light box from Santa. The light box is long gone but I still have windows available.

I have seen sophisticated stuff that forensic specialists have used in trying to solve a crime on those "who really committed the crime?" TV shows.

Irish_Dem

(47,131 posts)
47. I remember tracing paper that we used when I was a child.
Sat Jan 16, 2021, 05:55 PM
Jan 2021

Yes if the TV shows are accurate, the FBI should have all kinds of neat tools to use.

 

greenjar_01

(6,477 posts)
6. It's not the mom, come on
Sat Jan 16, 2021, 01:21 AM
Jan 2021

This woman is not a day over 40, and weighs about 135. Yeesh.

I just listened to this. It's not even close. The bullhorn woman has a slight midwestern accent, like when she says "standing," with a flat "a." Bentz has southern artifacts in her speech (listen to "And he cranks hees up up even louder, so I go and crank mine up louder." ) Y'all are hearing what you want to hear.

The two women literally sound nothing like each other.

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greenjar_01

(6,477 posts)
12. We agree on the hair
Sat Jan 16, 2021, 01:30 AM
Jan 2021

These are completely different women who sound nothing like each other though. They have distinct regional dialect artifacts in their speech. It's not close.

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greenjar_01

(6,477 posts)
15. The woman with the bullhorn likely has no relation at all to Boebert
Sat Jan 16, 2021, 01:44 AM
Jan 2021

The whole thing is a blind alley. There are very good pics of her floating around, though unlike some of the other idiots, she was smart enough to cover her face when somebody tried to take a clear head-on picture of her. I'd say she's between 35-40, maybe 135. I can't place the accent, but it's definitely not southern working class like Boebert's mother. I'd guess that she has some family tie to the upper midwest but may have left or might be at one remove. College educated (again, unlike Boebert's mother), probably with some professional training and leadership roles. Something like nurse manager, the way she barks orders and the way she organized the folks around her to use the carpet tube as a battering ram. Comfortable with conflict and even violence around her, cool under pressure.

I also don't think this is really much evidence of anything but spontaneous organization. She's more taking charge than being in charge, and the dumbasses in the room really don't seem to be paying much attention to her, to be honest.

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kcr

(15,317 posts)
23. I'm with you. They don't sound alike. They don't look alike
Sat Jan 16, 2021, 07:09 AM
Jan 2021

They aren't the same age or weight. Their hair color is similar, and that's about it.

58Sunliner

(4,386 posts)
49. I bet she exaggerates her speech. I don't think she sounds like that all the time.
Sun Jan 17, 2021, 12:40 AM
Jan 2021

That being said, the FBI says it is someone else.


 

greenjar_01

(6,477 posts)
50. Honestly, it's not close
Sun Jan 17, 2021, 12:44 AM
Jan 2021

I'm really astounded that people think these two women sound even similar. They grew up in completely different parts of the country with completely different regional dialects.

I mean, whatever. We're going to find out, so I guess we'll have to wait. It's just amazing to me that anyone thinks these women sound similar in their speech.

 

greenjar_01

(6,477 posts)
52. Bullhorn has a faint Great Lakes vowel shift (to my ear)
Sun Jan 17, 2021, 12:52 AM
Jan 2021

Western NY, Northern OH, Western PA, Michigan, Northern IL.

We'll see, I guess.

global1

(25,253 posts)
8. Wouldn't Investigators Be Able To Run Voice Analysis Patterns.....
Sat Jan 16, 2021, 01:22 AM
Jan 2021

on the pink hat lady at the Capitol and the Snookie video? Couldn't they tell by voice analysis if it is the same person?

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tinrobot

(10,903 posts)
14. It's close enough to warrant further investigation.
Sat Jan 16, 2021, 01:43 AM
Jan 2021

I'm not 100% convinced, but definitely intrigued.

Maybe the FBI could find some cellphone data to confirm or something.

Bernardo de La Paz

(49,007 posts)
28. Blurred photos makes people look younger. Some she looks older. Winter clothing is deceptive
Sat Jan 16, 2021, 07:29 AM
Jan 2021

We assume all winter clothing is bulky. But stouter people don't have to wear as much winter clothing as thinner people to feel as warm. This is because volume increases much faster than surface area as weight increases.

Bernardo de La Paz

(49,007 posts)
36. Remember when the Break & Entering woman got shot in the Capitol? Lots of people
Sat Jan 16, 2021, 09:01 AM
Jan 2021

Many people at the time called her a "girl" or a "young woman", including eye witnesses at the scene.

Turned out she was a veteran with 14 years in the Air Force.

Buckeye_Democrat

(14,855 posts)
38. Good point.
Sat Jan 16, 2021, 09:05 AM
Jan 2021

That video definitely made her look far younger. Some Trump cultists on the internet claimed that she was only 16, which seemed plausible to me at the time.

SunSeeker

(51,572 posts)
20. Sure looks and sounds like the same woman to me!
Sat Jan 16, 2021, 04:01 AM
Jan 2021

And Lauren Boebert has already admitted her mother was in the Capitol area on 1/6/2021.

Buckeye_Democrat

(14,855 posts)
24. Seems like a decent match to me.
Sat Jan 16, 2021, 07:15 AM
Jan 2021

Accents can be altered intentionally. I've done it repeatedly while secret-trolling (for my own entertainment) some Southern-origin, Trump cultist coworkers to test their gullibility.

I've also overheard some African American coworkers who talked "plain" around white coworkers, but completely different when around only black coworkers. (Accidentally overheard them as I'd silently retrieve something in the area or whatever.)

The facial features are a strong match.

It's the body shapes that make me skeptical about a match, but I honestly haven't seen a good full-body pic of bullhorn lady yet.

Bernardo de La Paz

(49,007 posts)
27. Bullhorns distort sound. The mother is short like bullhorn lady is. Same sunglasses as she wears
Sat Jan 16, 2021, 07:22 AM
Jan 2021

The shift in speech patterns you heard from the African Americans is well known and has the semi-formal name "code shifting". They are very used to that kind of adaptation for moving smoothly in the spaces left between the towers of white privilege around them.

Buckeye_Democrat

(14,855 posts)
29. It's the body shape that's keeping me skeptical.
Sat Jan 16, 2021, 07:52 AM
Jan 2021

On the other hand, I've had some "thick" coworkers who actually looked THINNER while wearing their coats. It's like your brain assumes that the coat should increase the diameter significantly, so the person wearing it must be thin.

So it's hard to tell.





Her mother on the far left, from Boebert's swearing-in just days before the Capitol invasion:


Bernardo de La Paz

(49,007 posts)
30. As you say, winter clothing is deceptive
Sat Jan 16, 2021, 07:56 AM
Jan 2021

We assume all winter clothing is bulky. But stouter people don't have to wear as much winter clothing as thinner people to feel as warm. This is because volume increases much faster than surface area as weight increases.

A heavy person with a thin jacket looks the same as a thin person with a thick warm jacket that they need.

Buckeye_Democrat

(14,855 posts)
31. Yep, and black often has a thinning effect too.
Sat Jan 16, 2021, 08:01 AM
Jan 2021

By the way, I think the guy on the ledge in the bullhorn lady's full-body pic was holding a video camera.

I wonder if he got some close-up videos of her? Not that he's likely to share them if he was an insurrectionist too.

Bernardo de La Paz

(49,007 posts)
34. I am sure I saw a photo of Boebert's mother with sunglasses with the same logo on the sides
Sat Jan 16, 2021, 08:59 AM
Jan 2021

... but now I can't find it even though I searched with search engine and through Twitter threads.

Maybe they scrubbed it. Her mother's twitter account got closed or yanked.



Buckeye_Democrat

(14,855 posts)
40. I've only seen one pic with her wearing sunglasses...
Sat Jan 16, 2021, 09:15 AM
Jan 2021

... so far.

This is from an article of "The Colorado Sun":
https://coloradosun.com/2020/09/14/lauren-boebert-congress-guns-trump/



That's the pic where I could make out a "crease" at the end of her nose, like some pics of Bullhorn Lady.

Boebert's mother definitely looks a LOT different when she's smiling. That obviously doesn't affect the nose, though.


Bernardo de La Paz

(49,007 posts)
41. Thx. Multiples, at street rally, other rallies, etc, but she is always face front in them, except 1
Sat Jan 16, 2021, 11:08 AM
Jan 2021

A couple. There was one very blurry but with some logo on the side.

But I am sure I saw one of her, rather clear like your photo, but from the side so you could see that the logo was the same size, square, and light (white/whitish) with dark imprinting on it.

Vinca

(50,278 posts)
37. The FBI probably has voice recognition software to prove one way or the other.
Sat Jan 16, 2021, 09:03 AM
Jan 2021

Sounds like her to me, looks like her and is apparently just as freaking nuts as her daughter.

Tommymac

(7,263 posts)
42. Sounds like the same woman to me.
Sat Jan 16, 2021, 11:22 AM
Jan 2021

And the facial features are similar.

Weight is so hard to judge in a photo due to angles. Th camera can add or subtract 5 pounds.

Love to see an audio analysis.

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