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Grasswire2

(13,571 posts)
Sat Jan 16, 2021, 02:22 AM Jan 2021

who was the fellow on MSNBC this evening -- Anthony Ghirardas (sp)?

He talked about how this event is not the beginning of something, but the ending of white minority rule and the mourning of it and the panic of the bigoted people.

I didn't exactly catch his name. He was profound, and thoughtful, and I want to share that video if we can find it.

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who was the fellow on MSNBC this evening -- Anthony Ghirardas (sp)? (Original Post) Grasswire2 Jan 2021 OP
Anand Giridharadas moondust Jan 2021 #1
thank you! nt Grasswire2 Jan 2021 #4
Search YouTube for him A HERETIC I AM Jan 2021 #7
yes, crazy smart. I've often seen Anand on msnbc, & plan to read his books. onetexan Jan 2021 #8
+1 uponit7771 Jan 2021 #6
Definitely profound and quite uplifting. tinrobot Jan 2021 #2
yes Grasswire2 Jan 2021 #3
K&R, I thought similar that the US has a good chance to swing practical leftward if DNC plays its uponit7771 Jan 2021 #5
This also goes in with projected demographic changes... brush Jan 2021 #9
The demographic progression. I learned about that 40 years ago Hortensis Jan 2021 #14
:) I've always thought so, being an optimist. Hortensis Jan 2021 #12
I find him quite interesting; he's also very wealthy as appalachiablue Jan 2021 #10
his wife, Priya Parker, is also extremely interesting and accomplished Celerity Jan 2021 #11
This is the context for what we've been living through beautifully expressed. Hortensis Jan 2021 #13

uponit7771

(90,347 posts)
5. K&R, I thought similar that the US has a good chance to swing practical leftward if DNC plays its
Sat Jan 16, 2021, 03:20 AM
Jan 2021

... its cars right and gets it into their heads the RNC isn't interested in a liberal democracy any longer.

brush

(53,788 posts)
9. This also goes in with projected demographic changes...
Sat Jan 16, 2021, 03:45 AM
Jan 2021

Last edited Sat Jan 16, 2021, 03:19 PM - Edit history (1)

estimating that by 2035 the nation will be majority minority as the white population will be under 50% of the nation, which of course means POCs, having higher birth rates, will increase their demographic percentages correspondingly.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
14. The demographic progression. I learned about that 40 years ago
Sat Jan 16, 2021, 05:50 AM
Jan 2021

in college. The trumpists only recently and have come unglued.

The percentages typically quoted are skewed, though, because "Hispanic" is not a racial category yet is often subtracted from "white" when discussing racial breakdowns. It counts all who identify with having the Spanish language in their background, or for other reasons identify Hispanic. Many Hispanics are white because their background is European or considered mainly so.

Right now whites are still close to 3/4 of Americans, and I actually wish more whites knew that because it'd ease up on some unnecessary anxiety as the progression continues. Same as I wish more people realized Jews aren't a quarter of the Democratic Party and AA half or more.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
12. :) I've always thought so, being an optimist.
Sat Jan 16, 2021, 04:43 AM
Jan 2021

Fwiw, the DNC does not direct the party or set policy for the party. If it did, half of our presidential candidates last time would have run for chair of the DNC instead. It's a support operation that gets Democrats elected.

Power center people around the nation who choose people from their area to send to serve on the DNC are another matter. Like the guy who owns a drugstore and car dealership and is a big hitter in politics in his area.
He gets wooed for his support by people running for office at all levels, and what he and others with him want and believe people in their area need and will vote for matters.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
13. This is the context for what we've been living through beautifully expressed.
Sat Jan 16, 2021, 05:32 AM
Jan 2021

I share his belief in what is really happening in America and the future we're moving toward, most of us with acceptance, the fortunate ones with the belief that the "fundamental through line" that's run all through our nation's history is very real and is right and good. We progress.

"Mourning... A funeral for white supremacy, for an outdated, outmoded male power. What we are witnessing is backlash. These people are not the future, they are the barnacles on the future that is going to happen with or without them."

Yes.

These latest years of their giant reaction and ultimately desperate attempts to break society and take over were triggered (above all among many causes of anxiety) by the extremely belated and terrifying realization of the demographic progression that said Ozzie and Harriet's America was gone and never returning. Maybe it forced a few of the more insightful to realize it had never existed at all, but that kind of honesty is not their strong point.

It's not all about white supremacy and unwillingness to share. We have big problems and huge changes that make the future look like a terrifyingly unknowable black emptiness to some, and they're reacting to the real decline of the lives they once had and expected for their children without realization that this isn't the end.

Biden and his people know that. His reassurance that the future will be good is in every speech. Btw, I took his pointing out that beating the pandemic would also be a jobs program as my own reassurance that they were on the right track. Of course. That's how it's done.

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