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Nevilledog

(51,120 posts)
Sat Jan 16, 2021, 12:21 PM Jan 2021

Cruz/Hawley etc objections added a crucial time element to the Capitol riot



Tweet text:Steven Dennis
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Jan 16, 2021
Cruz/Hawley etc objections added a crucial time element to the Capitol riot

When no senator objected to any Electoral College votes in 2017, the Joint Session presided over by Biden finished certifying Trump's win at *1:41 pm*

The mob broke in to the Capitol at ~2:10 pm

Steven Dennis
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Jamie Dupree
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It took 41 minutes in 2017.
It took 23 minutes in 2013.

9:04 AM · Jan 16, 2021
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Cruz/Hawley etc objections added a crucial time element to the Capitol riot (Original Post) Nevilledog Jan 2021 OP
Wonder if this will join with other threads of evidence in a Hortensis Jan 2021 #1
Plus the rally/march timeline obfuscation by the Reich Wing is bogus Bernardo de La Paz Jan 2021 #2
There was planning and orchestration. dalton99a Jan 2021 #3

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
1. Wonder if this will join with other threads of evidence in a
Sat Jan 16, 2021, 12:25 PM
Jan 2021

legal case against them both. Seditious conspiracy or ?

Bernardo de La Paz

(49,002 posts)
2. Plus the rally/march timeline obfuscation by the Reich Wing is bogus
Sat Jan 16, 2021, 01:06 PM
Jan 2021

Their deceptively simplistic timeline says that tRump finished speaking about 1:15 pm and that the marchers had began walking before 1:00 pm; both facts are true.

Their conclusion that there is "no way" tRump could have incited the rioters is bogus because it conveniently ignores many important facts.

1) The warmup speakers the day before and the morning before were all combative, aggressive, and inciting. Like Ghouliani urging "trial by combat" (since all his cases had failed in court).

2) tRump began speaking about 12 noon. Early in his speech he was inciting the crowd as well as at the end.

3) When tRump stopped speaking, the number of marchers swelled.

Propaganda masters in the WH and St Petersburg Russia would like everyone to be stupid enough and flabbergasted enough to act as if the marchers went to the Capitol in one large mass before tRump finished and nobody joined them after. Nope.

4) The breaching of barricades didn't happen instantly. It happened after tRump finished speaking and people got alerts and messages and streams on their smart phones telling them he had finished and the Congressional session had begun.

5) At no point did tRump tweet or message or speak or release a statement calling on the rioters to stop and withdraw.

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