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MineralMan

(146,317 posts)
Sat Jan 16, 2021, 12:47 PM Jan 2021

Donald J. Trump Is a Starter, Not a Finisher.

Why is there a shortage of CV-19 vaccine?

Because Donald J. Trump started something he called "Project Warp Speed," and then neglected all follow-up on it. That is how he does things.

He makes a dramatic announcement that he is doing something dramatic. He signs an Executive Order and holds it up for the media. Then, he believes that's all he has to do. He does not make sure what he ordered is happening, and releases himself from all responsibility for the thing he began.

He is a Starter. He is an Initiator. He is not a Doer nor a Finisher. He doesn't care whether what he orders actually happens or not. He only cares about the initial publicity. His attention span ends abruptly after making an announcement. He never follows through.

Trump wants to be on the billboard as the star of the play or movie. He insists on it. But he never learns the script, never shows up at rehearsals, and isn't there on opening night or for any performance. That's his style.

If you look back at his pathetic four years in office, he did that time and time again.

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Donald J. Trump Is a Starter, Not a Finisher. (Original Post) MineralMan Jan 2021 OP
I can hardly wait until he starts leaving - but this time he'll finish. The Velveteen Ocelot Jan 2021 #1
Yes. However, he may well continue to think he is President. MineralMan Jan 2021 #4
Considering all of his failed businesses, I'd argue it's a lifetime condition...nt Wounded Bear Jan 2021 #2
Yes. It is his nature, as I said. MineralMan Jan 2021 #5
That's been his history. The next big project underpants Jan 2021 #3
Exactly. That is who he is, whatever he is doing. MineralMan Jan 2021 #6
I suspect it's more sinister than that Wicked Blue Jan 2021 #7
Typical of people with Cluster B personality disorders. Laelth Jan 2021 #8
Yes. MineralMan Jan 2021 #9
Spot on, but his overall pandemic response was even worse. chriscan64 Jan 2021 #10
Yes. What he did there is a symptom called Perseveration. MineralMan Jan 2021 #11
Agree with your premise but... jcgoldie Jan 2021 #12
It takes too much energy and time to care about other people. MineralMan Jan 2021 #13
I think it was entertaining for him for a couple months jcgoldie Jan 2021 #15
spot on, MineralMan -- it's also why he doesn't bother keeping track of his lies fishwax Jan 2021 #14
I've known so many men in my life who were PatSeg Jan 2021 #16
It's a very common thing, I think. MineralMan Jan 2021 #17
Oh yes PatSeg Jan 2021 #21
Yeah, a fire-starter. 🤬🤬🤬 electric_blue68 Jan 2021 #18
But he still needs his fluffers to get things started MagickMuffin Jan 2021 #19
That's what Stormy Daniels said n/t Silent3 Jan 2021 #20
Oh, Snap! MineralMan Jan 2021 #23
If he had been poor he would have been the guy trying out every pyramid scheme then quitting Quixote1818 Jan 2021 #22

MineralMan

(146,317 posts)
4. Yes. However, he may well continue to think he is President.
Sat Jan 16, 2021, 12:52 PM
Jan 2021

There is something badly wrong with his cognition.

MineralMan

(146,317 posts)
5. Yes. It is his nature, as I said.
Sat Jan 16, 2021, 12:53 PM
Jan 2021

He loves the process of beginning things, but hates doing the work required to make those things a success. Then, he declares bankruptcy and moves on to the next big idea. However, he did figure out how to keep his name on even failed projects, through contracts.

underpants

(182,829 posts)
3. That's been his history. The next big project
Sat Jan 16, 2021, 12:50 PM
Jan 2021

Sell it sell it sell it. The best. Perfect. Beautiful.

Once the project is done he loses interest in magazine it and the bank ends up taking it back and running it. He switched to basically being a interior designer, marketer, and custodial operation with an added price for him to put his name on it.

MineralMan

(146,317 posts)
6. Exactly. That is who he is, whatever he is doing.
Sat Jan 16, 2021, 12:54 PM
Jan 2021

He brought that short-sighted concept into the presidency, where it is useless.

Laelth

(32,017 posts)
8. Typical of people with Cluster B personality disorders.
Sat Jan 16, 2021, 01:16 PM
Jan 2021

In their minds “I meant to do it” is the same as “I did it.” Those of us who live in the real world know that there’s a huge difference between the two. People with Cluster B personality disorders, however, don’t live in the real world. They prefer to live in a fantasy world in which they are perfect, beyond reproach, and in which they are never to blame. If anything bad happens, they think, it must have been someone else’s fault, for they are, in their minds, perfect people who are the perpetual victims of evil people who are out to destroy them.

-Laelth

Note that 1 in every 8 humans are thought to suffer from a Cluster B personality disorder. These disorders are not uncommon. All of us know one or more persons who are Cluster B-disordered. It is uncommon, however, for one of them to be elected President of the United States.

MineralMan

(146,317 posts)
9. Yes.
Sat Jan 16, 2021, 01:28 PM
Jan 2021

While watching the Capitol riot, I was struck by how many people I saw coming into the Capitol building and then having no idea what to do, once they got in there. They had no plan, other than to get in. Once in, many were paralyzed and did not act or do much of anything at all but wander around.

Same principle. They could formulate the idea or be convinced that breaking into the building was the goal, but had no plan for what to do once that goal was achieved.

That was one of the reasons there was time enough for the legislators to get to safety and for reinforcements to arrive, late as they were.

People with Cluster B personalities are not very good at much of anything, once they get past the original goal. They also believe they will not be caught or identified if they do something wrong, so they take selfies of themselves after breaking in and then post them on their own social media page to get attention. Later, they are surprised and shocked when someone comes and arrests them. They have little connection to actual realities.

You're absolutely right!

chriscan64

(1,789 posts)
10. Spot on, but his overall pandemic response was even worse.
Sat Jan 16, 2021, 01:45 PM
Jan 2021

He certainly did conflate the announcement of something being initiated as having done it as you say, but the false narrative that the pandemic was not as bad as reported meant that he got to blow off even this "announcement" stage in some aspects. His solution was to proclaim that there was no problem, therefore no solution needed, e.g. masks and shutdowns. It was all part of taking any shortcut to his reelection available, and when you're detached from reality there are no obstacles and all paths are available.

Even as we speak, he is planning a victory lap to glorify his "accomplishments" shortly before chickening out of attendance of the Inauguration. Putz.

MineralMan

(146,317 posts)
11. Yes. What he did there is a symptom called Perseveration.
Sat Jan 16, 2021, 01:52 PM
Jan 2021

Once he had the idea that the COVID-19 pandemic was not a big deal, he fixed on that idea and persevered and maintained that as fact throughout. It is a symptom of some psychoses and also of ADHD, obsessive compulsive disorder, and many types of dementia. What is Trump's diagnosis is difficult to pin down. But perseveration is part of it, and we see it again and again.

jcgoldie

(11,631 posts)
12. Agree with your premise but...
Sat Jan 16, 2021, 01:55 PM
Jan 2021

I'd say the lack of vaccine like everything about America's response to the pandemic is more simply a product of his not giving a shit about the problem... not in the beginning, not in the end, not ever...

jcgoldie

(11,631 posts)
15. I think it was entertaining for him for a couple months
Sat Jan 16, 2021, 02:07 PM
Jan 2021

...because it gave him an excuse to go on tv every afternoon and spew BS he obviously knew nothing about nor cared to even study at the covid briefings... "look at meeeee... wartime president blah blah blah". Then he completely humiliated himself by showing his ignorance even by his ridiculous standards with the inject bleach show and that wasn't fun anymore so he just decided to completely ignore the issue.

Ironically, I'm of the opinion which I don't really have evidence to support that despite his disastrous failed response, the pandemic probably helped more than hurt him in the election. A lot of people choose to ignore the truth when its hard rather than doing what they need to do to solve the problem. Wearing masks and dealing with kids home from school and bars and restaurants that are closed all of which they knew Biden would do in response to the science is inconvenient. They knew they could count on Trump to pretend the problem didn't exist and carry on in fantasy land just as they wanted to do themselves. It's going away like magic! Perfect solution!

fishwax

(29,149 posts)
14. spot on, MineralMan -- it's also why he doesn't bother keeping track of his lies
Sat Jan 16, 2021, 02:00 PM
Jan 2021

it's the past. He enjoys the reaction and moves on. It doesn't matter to him. It probably doesn't even exist to him.

PatSeg

(47,501 posts)
16. I've known so many men in my life who were
Sat Jan 16, 2021, 02:14 PM
Jan 2021

basically starters, but rarely finishers. They would start projects on an impulse and then get distracted or bored and move onto something else, often leaving a mess behind for someone else to clean up. They like the initial thrill that comes with a new idea, but not the monotonous task of implementing it. They are addicted to that thrill and when it fades, they look around for another fix.

Of course there are women who do the same thing, but I've seen it more in men.

MineralMan

(146,317 posts)
17. It's a very common thing, I think.
Sat Jan 16, 2021, 02:25 PM
Jan 2021

Few, however, with that issue ever accomplish enough to become a POTUS. Trump was a fluke.

PatSeg

(47,501 posts)
21. Oh yes
Sat Jan 16, 2021, 03:28 PM
Jan 2021

Donald Trump has been the bizarre exception to so many rules. I still can't wrap my head around all that has happened the past four years. I am afraid I have always underestimated con artists, especially really stupid ones.

Quixote1818

(28,946 posts)
22. If he had been poor he would have been the guy trying out every pyramid scheme then quitting
Sat Jan 16, 2021, 03:55 PM
Jan 2021

He really is a total loser.

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