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Wicked Blue

(5,834 posts)
Sat Jan 16, 2021, 01:15 PM Jan 2021

Mueller Memos: The FBI Just Released Its Secret Interviews With Michael Flynn After BuzzFeed News Wa

Buzzfeed News
Jason Leopold

The tumultuous early days of Michael Flynn’s brief tenure as President Donald Trump’s national security adviser are laid bare in more than 100 pages of FBI interview summaries that reveal new details about his secret conversations with Russia’s ambassador weeks before Trump was inaugurated.

He didn’t last long because he couldn’t seem to tell members of the new administration a straight story.

“Did you lie to Pence?” Trump asked Flynn on Feb. 12, 2017, when he was confronted about his contacts with Sergey Kislyak, then Russia’s ambassador to the US.

“No, I just didn’t remember the full conversation,” Flynn said.

Much more at

https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/jasonleopold/mueller-memos-michael-flynn-fbi-interviews?ref=bfnsplash

The 126 pages of FBI documents the Justice Department released Friday, known as 302s, were released to BuzzFeed News and CNN in response to a Freedom of Information Act lawsuit for summaries of witness interviews from Mueller’s investigation, according to Buzzfeed

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Bernardo de La Paz

(49,002 posts)
5. At the very least, a court case can FORCE defendant to ADMIT GUILT by asserting the pardon
Sat Jan 16, 2021, 02:48 PM
Jan 2021

The Supreme Court ruled in Burdick that a pardon carries "an imputation of guilt, acceptance a confession of it".[2]


Burdick v. United States, 236 U.S. 79 (1915), was a case in which the Supreme Court of the United States held that:

* A pardoned person must introduce the pardon into court proceedings, otherwise the pardon must be disregarded by the court.

* To do that, the pardoned person must accept the pardon. If a pardon is rejected, it cannot be forced upon its subject.

A pardon is an act of grace, proceeding from the power entrusted with the execution of the laws, which exempts the individual on whom it is bestowed from the punishment the law inflicts for a crime he has committed. It is the private though official act of the executive magistrate, delivered to the individual for whose benefit it is intended.... A private deed, not communicated to him, whatever may be its character, whether a pardon or release, is totally unknown and cannot be acted on.[1]


cstanleytech

(26,293 posts)
6. Maybe. If they have evidence that Trump and Flynn were involved in a conspiracy and that Trump
Sat Jan 16, 2021, 03:05 PM
Jan 2021

intended to use his pardon powers to protect Flynn should he get caught then the court might throw it out as it could be argued that Flynn was still engaged in an ongoing crime by not coming forward about it.
I would not get my hopes up though about them finding that evidence if it exists as you can bet its been well buried.

NCjack

(10,279 posts)
7. The pardon is absolute and cannot be broken and tossed into the trash.
Sat Jan 16, 2021, 03:12 PM
Jan 2021

In some cases, 5th Amendment protection may not apply to someone who has been pardoned, and that person may be compelled to testify. But, experts disagree, especially if there is overlapping Federal and State jurisdiction (e.g., cheating on taxes).

Botany

(70,516 posts)
11. I don't believe that Flynn lied to the White House and or Pence. They knew exactly what Flynn was..
Sat Jan 16, 2021, 04:08 PM
Jan 2021

.... doing in talking to Kislyak because they knew that the Russians had installed Trump
and that Pence was well aware of Russia's work for Trunmp in 2016 too.

Midnight Writer

(21,768 posts)
12. Is this part of the records Trump ordered released to expose the "Russian Hoax".
Sat Jan 16, 2021, 04:13 PM
Jan 2021

I heard on the Hate Radio that Trump was still fuming over "the Russian thing" and in his last days would release all the evidence so people could see he is innocent.

If that is true, I think it will be a spectacular backfire.

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