I Predicted The Other Day Here On DU That Romney Will Be 2024 Repug Nominee....

[global1]

and many of the responses I received for my post were that - no way - Romney is considered a loser and has no chance to become the nominee.

Just now I heard on one of the cable news shows - that Trump would be considered the front runner for the nomination in 2024.

Now why is that?

Shouldn't Trump be considered a loser as well? And what about the fact that he is the only president in the history of this country - that has been impeached twice?

Why is Romney eliminated from the possibility of becoming the 2024 Repug nominee and Trump is considered a 'front runner'.

[Walleye]

1. Because most of the party now is toxic and unlawful

[BannonsLiver]

2. I'm not sure who will be the nominee but it won't be Nikki Haley IMO

The nativist far right GOP primary electorate would never vote for her.

Romney is probably in the same boat for different reasons.

[grantcart]

6. Her actual evangelical background makes her the clear favorite in Iowa

The nativist bias only applies to stoking fears of undefined masses, doesn't apply to actual people much like their bias against women in power. They love their Palin and Haley.

Proof of this principle is the fact that Nativism has no better home than South Carolina where Haley had very positive favorability numbers.

Haley is smart and a good communicator and we dismiss her at our own peril.

[BannonsLiver]

12. As soon as the MAGAT base finds out her real name is Nimrhata they will run for the hills.

That’s not well known outside SC. She also has female genitalia which is another problem for her with MAGATS.

We dismiss everyone at our own peril. That wasn’t the point. The point is she is not the shoe in many here think she is.

[mercuryblues]

20. She will run IMO

I don't think she expects to or will get the nomination, her real goal is VP.

I also believe Romney will run and has a good shot of the nomination. If he gets it, I expect him to put tricky Nikki into his binder full of women.

Romney is positioning himself as the savoir of the republican party. Nikki is playing both ends, sane one in the republican party and supporting trump. It has been said she is trump with a brain and I agree with that analysis.

[BannonsLiver]

30. I'm hoping for a splinter MAGAt party. Would be great for Dems.

Outside of that I agree. If Romney’s side wins the GOP civil war he would be well positioned to be the nominee. If they don’t, it’ll be someone else.

[grantcart]

36. Nonsense. Your observation that it is well known in SC completely undermines your

argument unless you are taking the position that SC Republicans are less navitist than Iowa Republicans (they aren't).

Is it also your position that SC doesn't know that Tim Scott is Black?

Hailey's evangelicalism is well educated and nuanced which is why she could unite the state behind removing the Confederate flag from state locations after the Church shooting.

Iowa is particularly fertile for evangelicals like Hailey, having selected Pat Robertson just a few years ago. While stirring fears of hoards it is not only consistent but attractive for GOP voters to accept candidates like Hailey and Scott as evidence that they are not racist.

Hailey is smart, articulate and formidable.

[Ace Rothstein]

3. Because the voters left in the Republican Party are a Trump cult.

Especially the type of voters that turn out for a primary. Maybe that will fade away over the next few years, we'll see.

IMO, Romney has a chance but it will need to be a crowded field and he'll need to be the only moderate. If Cruz, Noem, Hawley, one of Trump's spawn and DeSantis all run then they could easily split the cult vote leaving a moderate as the last one standing.

[rurallib]

4. The whole party is a bunch of losers with the stink of Trump

[Pantagruel]

5. Sasse

is elbowing his way into the conversation. Trump needs to form a 3rd party.

[global1]

8. And Wouldn't The Threat By Trump To Form A Third Party Be Enough For The Repug Senate.....

vote to convict Trump and take away his ability to hold office in this country ever again?

[Pantagruel]

23. GOP contenders

might vote to convict to block a Trump primary challenge. Up for election GOP Sen. might not want to alienate Trump voters for their campaigns so maybe they vote to acquit. Add in a threat of 3rd party run by Trump or even Trump Jr. and you're looking at a very confused GOP field going into 2022 and 2024.

[Massacure]

28. A very confused GOP field is probably an apt description

Any presidential contender who votes to convict Trump will probably get mercilessly attacked from the far right during the primary, and that may or may not be more damaging to their campaign than another potential Trump run. The conviction vote will also have ramifications for Class III senators from swing states - Johnson (WI), Grassley (IA), Portman (OH), Rubio (FL), and Toomey (PA).

[Pantagruel]

32. Retirements

add another wrinkle to any predictive theory. Toomey I believe has already announced and Grassley is 200 years old.

[CrispyQ]

7. Assuming we get Joe Biden sworn in, I predict

Trump will be overwhelmed with financial and legal problems & will quickly become irrelevant. Not to worry. The 1% have their eyes peeled for the next strongman, one not so crude and incompetent. These next two years are only a reprieve.

[Tetrachloride]

9. Trump will be in prison and Republicans will never agree to Romney

A "new" face will appear who is good at whitewashing (in every sense of the word) anything before 2024.

[sarcasmo]

10. I'm sticking with Larry Hogan.

[lapfog_1]

11. Romney is considered a traitor

by the "base" of the soon to be splintered repuke party

[Voltaire2]

13. The fascist base of the republican party hates romney

So the only way Romney is the nominee is that the republican party has split into two parties, with Trump/Hawley/Cruz or some other fascist knob the candidate of the Real American Republican Party, and Romney the candidate of the other Republican Party.

The fascist faction is better organized, and likely has more voters than the Cheney/Romney faction.

That scenario is great news for us, but unlikely. As we have seen, so far the Republican leadership has mostly fallen in line and is ok with being part of an overtly authoritarian anti-democratic political party.

[obamanut2012]

14. I also think it will be Romney n/t

[NCjack]

15. I think that Romney will pass on seeking the 2024 prez nomination.

There will be too many sore-ass MAGAts for him to secure a voter base. Instead, he will pursue making Repukes the majority party in the senate, with him as Majority Leader.

[MineralMan]

16. I believe that Donald Trump will die before 2024.

So, I'm not very concerned about that.

[Pantagruel]

25. Painfully

if there's a god? Sadly I'm a proud atheist so the orange asshole will probably never get his due.
Hopefully, a grieving Junior or Ivanka will misread the tea leaves and try a 3rd party run?

[Wellstone ruled]

17. Willard,Paul Ryan,Ben Sasse,

Ted Cruz,Hawley,John Thune,Scott Walker,just a few.

[JHB]

18. Remember the 2012 clown car?

It was a continuous parade of "anybody but Mitt" candidates. By turns they became favorites of the anti-establishment Rush/Sean/Glenn fan clubs for something they said, only to lose that favor over something else they said.

So in the end, the anti-Mitt primary votes were spread out among multiple people, while the establishment vote all went for Mitt, leaving him at the top in the end. And then he lost to Obama.

For the 2016 race, Trump dove straight for that inFOXicated anti-establishment vote, letting him wipe the floor with anyone else trying to court it. It was the establishment vote that was divided, especially when Jeb decided to reveal to everyone that he's not actually "the smart Bush."

How is Mitt going to win over the foamers when they measure manliness by how many bottles of Wingnut Hooch you can chug, and Mitt's merely a sipper.

[jcgoldie]

19. Republicans think Romney is a traitor

Of course from our perspective he's their best option but they all hate him no way he wins the primaries.

[Initech]

21. Trump unleashed the frat boy wing of the party.

And it will be very hard to put them back in their proverbial cages. And I know that the few adults left in the GOP will want to drastically distance themselves from that end of the party come time for the 2024 primaries. Though it may be too late for that.

[DrToast]

22. I'm baffled

How can anyone have witnessed the last four years and think the Republican base want Romney?

[Happy Hoosier]

24. The GOP is Trump's party.

No way any anti-Trumper wins the nomination in 2024. The GrOPers are still in Trump’s thrall.

[andym]

26. You don't understand Trump's base of supporters think he really won

and the election was stolen. So Trump's really still a winner in their eyes. Romney's not just a loser, he didn't support Trump during impeachment-- so he's a traitor as far as the rabid GOP base is concerned. Romney would be hard-pressed to even be competitive with the GOP primaries.

[anamnua]

27. Put 'Romney' into the Freeperville search engine

and you will read all about 'Benedict Arnold' 'thirty pieces of silver' etc.

[Hav]

29. He isn't eliminated but you have to consider the Repub base

and whether the Trumpers would make the switch to him.
I think there is some disconnect here: Some Dems are very cynical about the motives behind his actions, claiming he's doing that only for a 2024 run when the very same actions are directed against the sitting Repub president and rather unpopular among the base. Same goes for Cheney. They aren't playing to their base at all.

[abqtommy]

31. I'm not betting on any reTHUG candidate for 2024. My money's on there not being any reTHUG

party in 2024!

[Quixote1818]

33. It's going to depend on how much of a pariah Trump becomes in the next few years

His base is turning on him pretty quickly and the GOP is going to be attacking him relentlessly. It will be coming from all sides. He could be the most hated man in American History in 3 years. If that occurs then Romney is primed to step in and help the GOP get it's footing back.

[tblue37]

34. Right wingers were not fond of Romney as their nominee in 2012. I suspect they see him now

as even more of a RINO.

[Crunchy Frog]

35. I absolutely think he's been positioning himself. If not for '24, then for '28. nt

[David__77]

37. Less chance of that than Joe Lieberman had in 2004.

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