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TomCADem

(17,390 posts)
Sat Jan 16, 2021, 05:30 PM Jan 2021

Pardon-Seeking Rioters 'Following My President' Weaken Argument Trump Didn't Incite Violence

I think this is why some Republicans have not been as forceful in defending the President with respect to impeachment. Basically, if Trump broadly pardons all of the rioters, I think enough Senate Republicans would vote to impeach. Conversely, if Trump does not pardon the rioters and just throws them under the bus claiming that they really are left wing antifa infiltrators, I think that Republicans will be happy to go along with this lie.

While despicable, there is some poetic justice to seeing these Trumpsters, getting hated on by fellow Republicans for being alleged Antifa infiltrators.

https://www.newsweek.com/protesters-following-presidents-orders-hurt-argument-that-trump-didnt-incite-violence-1562134

As protesters identified in last week's U.S. Capitol riot get arrested, a few have sought pardons from President Donald Trump before his term comes to an end on Wednesday.

Some of the people claim they were following directives from Trump. Observers have noted on Twitter that these claims could be used in a Senate impeachment trial and hurt arguments that the president didn't incite violence.

The lawyer for Jacob Anthony Chansley (also known as Jake Angeli) recently said in a statement that the "QAnon Shaman" was seeking a presidential pardon and "accepted President Trump's invitation to walk down Pennsylvania Avenue to the Capitol," according to St. Louis CBS-affiliate KMOV.

"Given the peaceful and compliant fashion in which Mr. Chansley comported himself, it would be appropriate and honorable for the president to pardon Mr. Chansley and other like-minded, peaceful individuals who accepted the president's invitation with honorable intentions," said attorney Albert Watkins.
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Pardon-Seeking Rioters 'Following My President' Weaken Argument Trump Didn't Incite Violence (Original Post) TomCADem Jan 2021 OP
Would the Supreme Court allow Trump to pardon the people he sent to destroy Congress, marie999 Jan 2021 #1
Invited to the Capitol not in the Capitol, big difference. pwb Jan 2021 #2
sammy... Claire Oh Nette Jan 2021 #3
 

marie999

(3,334 posts)
1. Would the Supreme Court allow Trump to pardon the people he sent to destroy Congress,
Sat Jan 16, 2021, 05:37 PM
Jan 2021

or could they find that unconstitutional? I know there isn't anything in the Constitution that keeps him from giving pardons to anyone except for impeachment. I was thinking it is like him pardoning himself.

pwb

(11,276 posts)
2. Invited to the Capitol not in the Capitol, big difference.
Sat Jan 16, 2021, 05:40 PM
Jan 2021

Nah, your all caught. You did it and you knew what you did.

You stepped up for trump and look what it got you?

The real charges come after trump is gone.

Got ya.

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