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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsI was hesitant to post this, but IF true, bye bye Rep Boebert
--a compelling (enhanced) facial recognition comparison to Malcolm Nance as well it would appear... We shall see... (Clicking on the video in the third tweet shows the overlay)
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Lunabell
(6,082 posts)Lock her up!
dalton99a
(81,515 posts)doublethink
(6,823 posts)Bernardo de La Paz
(49,002 posts)... or simply upset at being used if the letter came as a shock saying she was with staff in another building.
SMC22307
(8,090 posts)That's the winner.
BusyBeingBest
(8,054 posts)Bernardo de La Paz
(49,002 posts)For formal pictures, posed pictures, I think she brings her shoulders back and puffs out a bit. Unposed and unpoised between Breaking & Entering, she would naturally take a more relaxed posture and wouldn't seem as "big" up front.
We see wider people and our minds kind of automatically expect an extra layer or two of thickness underneath.
So heavier people can look much like thinner people in cold weather.
honest.abe
(8,678 posts)I agree. Its her.
stillcool
(32,626 posts)but I can hope.
ProfessorGAC
(65,061 posts)If I'm wrong, that's ok. As long as they nail that woman with every law they can find, I'll be pleased.
But, I still don't see the "dead ringer", 100% sure it's her. Even with the video analysis.
Hoping it's true, but not optimistic.
Buckeye_Democrat
(14,855 posts)... of eerie similarities for their facial features.
Probably won't know with certainty until the FBI arrests Bullhorn Lady.
ProfessorGAC
(65,061 posts)...I hear 2 different speaking voices. She was yelling in both.
I will admit that in the video she seemed 3/4ths in the bag.
That would explain voice cadence differences, I suppose.
But, I also have a logic barrier.
She was there for a few hours on tour, then clearly remembered shortcuts, and room connections on the lower level?
The bullhorn instructions seemed too detailed to be provided by somebody who was there for 3 hours.
Buckeye_Democrat
(14,855 posts)... extraordinary evidence, and it hasn't reached that level for me yet.
I just can't discount it based on the facial similarities that I've seen:
1. Mouth/cheeks/chin, as focused upon in the overlap video.
2. Nose, with the same faint "crease" at the end of it based on another pic of Q*bert's mother. (If you know what that nose feature is called, please tell me. LOL!)
3. Forehead wrinkles with the same pattern, as pointed out by comparing yet other pics. (The wrinkles converged towards each other the same way above their left eyes.)
It's also crossed my mind that people can play tricks with photoshopping, so that's another thought that gives me pause.
ProfessorGAC
(65,061 posts)BComplex
(8,053 posts)That would make me really really mad if it's true. I would hope they would lock both mother and daughter away forever, if that's the case.
MiniMe
(21,716 posts)hlthe2b
(102,289 posts)is causing you problems?
MiniMe
(21,716 posts)I guess like the anti-facebook people, I just don't want to sign up.
hlthe2b
(102,289 posts)SheltieLover
(57,073 posts)Bernardo de La Paz
(49,002 posts)So it is getting it from cache.
Cha
(297,284 posts)the first tweet is "Unavailable".. it's been deleted.
What was it about? TY!
hlthe2b
(102,289 posts)Malcolm thought it was interesting, but perhaps he thought better or heard from someone that the comparison method had problems or...
Cha
(297,284 posts)of a post or a tweet.
TY!
uncle ray
(3,156 posts)BrightKnight
(3,567 posts)demmiblue
(36,863 posts)she gave her mom a tour on the day she was sworn in, not the day before the insurrection. Also, she is a contributor to Hill Reporter. Lol!
Anyway, I will get the popcorn ready just in case this turns out to be true!
USALiberal
(10,877 posts)hlthe2b
(102,289 posts)There is already a petition of Congress to vote to expel her signed by 68 Colorado public officials and political leaders, including R's from her own District.
She is not on solid ground, no matter what... Murdoch's very true "hit piece" in this morning's NY Post is not only embarrassing in terms of exposing her own arrest history, lack of education, and qualifications, but it signals that the RW mainstream knives are out for her too.
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SheltieLover
(57,073 posts)doublethink
(6,823 posts)1 https://www.democraticunderground.com/100214938397
2 https://www.democraticunderground.com/100214937775
3. I've been on the FBI webpage today and cannot find a single picture of 'bullhorn lady' in their 'wanted pics' I think they know who she is and is very 'high profile' at this point. So they could be holding on for such a revelation high profile arrest at some point. You know so much going on ... to keep calm before the Inauguration ... So there is that?
4. Yesterday her daughter Boebert claimed her mom WASN'T at the capitol but locked down somewhere else with her (Boebert's) staff somewhere else. That was in her official statement readily available online. But her mom said earlier that she (herself) was locked down INSIDE THE CAPITOL while the rioters were outside. She said she could hear them etc etc ... etc ... something is completely off about both their statements.
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SheltieLover
(57,073 posts)Great catch!
mopinko
(70,120 posts)it's her. the pic that looks like a dif hat is that hat, inside out.
Silver Gaia
(4,544 posts)mopinko
(70,120 posts)that hat has a big pompom on it. if you look at it inside out, you can tell it's in there.
Cobalt Violet
(9,905 posts)Diraven
(520 posts)Which my wife hates when I interrupt TV shows to point out obscure actors that were in some other TV show decades ago. Anyway, I concur, it definitely could be her, although with the grainy picture I can't say 100%
BigmanPigman
(51,608 posts)and they are the same woman in my opinion. I didn't use the overlays but when I looked at pictures of the daughter and mom last week I noticed that they both have the same pointy chin. It really stands out in other photos.
demmiblue
(36,863 posts)Response to demmiblue (Reply #21)
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SheltieLover
(57,073 posts)cwydro
(51,308 posts)Really not believing random tweets and incessant posts here.
hlthe2b
(102,289 posts)So.... trash the thread.
And, I have NOT been posting "incessant posts" on this or any other issue.
cwydro
(51,308 posts)Do a search on this subject and you will see MANY threads. I have no idea who posts them all, I dont keep notes.
Im simply tired of all the false or misleading information I keep seeing here. And no, I didnt say YOU have done this, k?
But people have been posting utter nonsense, and they dont even care when its proven false.
Its wrong to accuse people of wrongdoing if you dont know if theyre even a suspect. Or at least, thats my belief. Ymmv.
Bradshaw3
(7,522 posts)But the woman in the pink hat looks much slimmer and younger than the old racist slimeball.
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Bradshaw3
(7,522 posts)There are recent pics of her. It may be fun to speculate but it doesn't matter because I believe they will catch bullhorn traitor and I bet it's not her mom.
Sogo
(4,986 posts)people do lose weight....Do we know how long ago the picture was taken where she looks heavier?
It's the age thing that really rules it almost completely out for me.
Sugarmaggie
(110 posts)Bradshaw3
(7,522 posts)Sogo
(4,986 posts)And has a double chin that I don't see on pink hat lady....
SheltieLover
(57,073 posts)If she has one!
Bradshaw3
(7,522 posts)We don't want them to hatch any more of their ilk.
SheltieLover
(57,073 posts)Sickos!
Hortensis
(58,785 posts)smirkymonkey
(63,221 posts)They are repulsive. What trash!
Hortensis
(58,785 posts)smirkymonkey
(63,221 posts)But thanks anyway!
SheltieLover
(57,073 posts)LizBeth
(9,952 posts)shrike3
(3,615 posts)SheltieLover
(57,073 posts)shrike3
(3,615 posts)SheltieLover
(57,073 posts)But this 1 sure seems confident about the building.
obamanut2012
(26,080 posts)Although her face looks like her mom.
Bernardo de La Paz
(49,002 posts)We see them and our minds kind of automatically expect an extra layer or two of thickness underneath.
So heavier people can look much like thinner people in cold weather.
obamanut2012
(26,080 posts)intrepidity
(7,307 posts)I've run several photos of both through a facial recognition program, and it consistently says no match.
fwiw
I just ran the pair that was used in that video. This wss the result:
SilasSouleII
(363 posts)eom
SheltieLover
(57,073 posts)If she has one.
Buckeye_Democrat
(14,855 posts)... such as these.
Microsoft Azure, for example, gets reviewer complaints about false mismatches if the facial pics are blurred / lower quality. Edit: Or if the angles don't match well enough.
George II
(67,782 posts)bdamomma
(63,868 posts)nt
Beachnutt
(7,324 posts)BobTheSubgenius
(11,564 posts)...I am anything but an expert when it comes to digital imagery. If someone with real cred can state it with certainty, I am definitely ready to believe it.
leanforward
(1,076 posts)Made my day
demmiblue
(36,863 posts)LeftInTX
(25,365 posts)Think of that Jewel guy in Atlanta
Buckeye_Democrat
(14,855 posts)The mouth/cheeks/chin area looked identical to me a few days ago.
Then another pic of Q*bert's mother offered a better nose comparison, and there was the same "crease" on the end of it!
Yet another comparison of pics showed identical patterns for the forehead wrinkles! The wrinkles converged the same way above their left eyes!
If her mother isn't Bullhorn Lady, it's an EXTREMELY unusual set of coincidences imo!
Tommymac
(7,263 posts)Buckeye_Democrat
(14,855 posts)Lots of sunglasses look similar, so I don't think it's as significant as the facial features, but that's yet another "match" as far as I'm concerned.
I'm also NOT totally convinced yet that Bullhorn Lady is much thinner, which is the main source of doubt for most people. It's too hard to tell with that coat on her imo.
Tommymac
(7,263 posts)The camera can add or take away 'pounds' depending on the angle.
I am leaning towards it being her mother, but still not enough evidence yet to be 100% certain.
Wishing though...is that mean?
Buckeye_Democrat
(14,855 posts)And I'm likewise leery about believing what I'd like to believe, so that's a constant nagging in my mind even after I saw various similarities in different pics.
Bernardo de La Paz
(49,002 posts)It is hard to see because Bentz is front forward but if you look at the side of the sunglasses, you can see a white patch in the perspective it would have viewed at that angle. Since that side is in shade it is not catching a stray ray of light and appearing much brighter by chance. It would be a white logo making a spot like that.
I'm sure I saw a reasonably clear shot of Benz in those glasses from the side but despite searching and following #bullhornlady I haven't found it again.
Would love for somebody to find it.
jmg257
(11,996 posts)SheltieLover
(57,073 posts)Maybe if not her mom, an aunt?
3825-87867
(851 posts)It's amazing what can be done with that equipment today, even thru a bullhorn!
Maybe that's being checked?
yellowcanine
(35,699 posts)job. Without proof this is vicious slander and you are legally vulnerable imo.
hlthe2b
(102,289 posts)Nothing I have posted is slander nor a direct accusation. YOU need to delete YOUR post accusing ME of as you stated "VICIOUS SLANDER!"
Buckeye_Democrat
(14,855 posts)Diraven
(520 posts)That thread from a few days ago where the guy on twitter supposedly identified the guy in the CFD hat ended up totally wrong.
louis-t
(23,295 posts)MustLoveBeagles
(11,611 posts)I'm not completely sure but I have to admit there's a strong resemblance.
bucolic_frolic
(43,176 posts)USALiberal
(10,877 posts)mrs_p
(3,014 posts)Pink hat lady is younger and thinner than her mom (and me too for that matter).
greenjar_01
(6,477 posts)the actual women with the bullhorn.
BootinUp
(47,162 posts)What image or video were you able to make that judgment from?
Buckeye_Democrat
(14,855 posts)And I really can't tell while she's wearing that coat.
That woman also doesn't look very young to me!
Edit: Several people initially assumed that the middle-aged woman, who was shot in the neck, was a teenager based on the video of the shooting.
BootinUp
(47,162 posts)id bet money it is boebert's mother. thanks a bunch.
IsItJustMe
(7,012 posts)world wide wally
(21,744 posts)It's hard to imagine two people with the same nasty scowl on their faces.
Looks like a match to me.
snort
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liberalmuse
(18,672 posts)I'm talking about some of the guys arrested. I guess we will eventually find out one way or another, but my god, the facial features match almost dead on, even the line below the lower lip/above the chin matches. To be fair, morphing software can fit facial features where you want them to be.
flamingdem
(39,313 posts)Personally am not sure it's her. Pink Hat Woman with Ram looks a bit younger but I could be mistaken.
orleans
(34,056 posts)Obvious85
(259 posts)IT IS her. Conspiring with her daughter = P R I S O N