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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsWhy Trump will not be inclined to pardon the insurrectionists (mob)?
Because he does everything in his own self interest.
If he were to pardon these criminals, he would probably blow whatever chance he has of being acquitted after the trial in the Senate?
At present, it is probably a close call?
But, if he pardons them, the Senate would probably have no choice but to convict.
He will do what he thinks is best for Donald.
SoonerPride
(12,286 posts)They mean nothing to him
dewsgirl
(14,961 posts)That's just who he is.
C_U_L8R
(45,003 posts)Why would Trump think he needs to reward them when he got nothing out of it.
GulfCoast66
(11,949 posts)gulliver
(13,186 posts)spooky3
(34,457 posts)on Fifth Avenue? I think theyd express their concern, but those idiots will stick with him.
BComplex
(8,053 posts)and saying the rioters were wrong to get violent really pissed them off. Many of the hard core want his head about now, and they've said so.
I'll be surprised if he pardons them, but this asshole is so full of crap, I shouldn't be surprised by anything he does at this point.
Nevilledog
(51,120 posts)Lunabell
(6,087 posts)So probably not worthy of pardon.
WhiteTara
(29,718 posts)and thought it was the most fun not getting a pardon and the look on her face as she realizes she will be convicted and spend 10-20 years in prison for sedition.
ProfessorGAC
(65,062 posts)...his own lawyers are telling him pardoning himself or others related to this event opens him up to civil liability.
And, 5 people are dead. That's heavy liability.
kentuck
(111,102 posts)that would be a big disincentive.
Quixote1818
(28,946 posts)He probably has more to lose by doing the pardons. Obviously morality won't come in to his decision so he will have to decide which direction benefits him the most and hurts him the least.
kentuck
(111,102 posts)But, it might not serve him well in an impeachment trial.
Quixote1818
(28,946 posts)The cop who got killed, any cop injured on the capital etc. Also other states following what NY is doing and kicking out all of his businesses. Not to mention damaging his brand more obviously. Fear of losing more money is the one thing that seems to sort of keep him in check so I think me may be just barely smart enough not to incriminate himself even further.
kentuck
(111,102 posts)They might have a case?
Quixote1818
(28,946 posts)muntrv
(14,505 posts)subterranean
(3,427 posts)GeorgeGist
(25,321 posts)Initech
(100,080 posts)So no pardon for them.
Timewas
(2,195 posts)I may not matter whether he wants to or not , his pardon power does not apply to impeachment and that entire ruckus is part of the impeachment so might get interesting if he tries.
StarfishSaver
(18,486 posts)He can pardon people involved in matters related to his impeachment. He just can't use the pardon power to stop someone from being impeached or to wipe out a Senate conviction in an impeachment.
Sogo
(4,986 posts)kentuck
(111,102 posts)But, if he cannot sell it to his allies in the US Senate, it would be no good reason to pardon anyone involved in the insurrection. It could sway the Senate to convict, which is the last thing he wants at this time. He needs the benefits that he would retain by not being convicted.