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thucythucy

(8,086 posts)
Mon Jan 18, 2021, 10:46 AM Jan 2021

Regarding all these calls for leniency for those who provoked the insurrection:

I recall this line from a letter penned to the press by President Lincoln when he was faced with his own cohort of seditionists who, while not treasonous combatants themselves, urged others to do their dirty work for them.

"Must I shoot the simple-minded soldier boy who deserts, while I must not touch a hair of a wiley agitator who induces him to desert?"

Just a thought that came to me this morning.

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Regarding all these calls for leniency for those who provoked the insurrection: (Original Post) thucythucy Jan 2021 OP
They claim they are for law and order, now let them choke on it! n/t brewens Jan 2021 #1
That was then, this is now. GemDigger Jan 2021 #2
That's basically my view as well. thucythucy Jan 2021 #3
I knew you didn't mean it that way, I am sorry it sounded that way. I was letting off steam. GemDigger Jan 2021 #7
I should think all those calls would be drowned out by.. ananda Jan 2021 #4
My thought exactly. thucythucy Jan 2021 #5
Is this the context of which you speak? ffr Jan 2021 #6
I can't link to tweets on this particular device. thucythucy Jan 2021 #8
Used another device and it came up as a tweet by John Cleese. thucythucy Feb 2021 #9

GemDigger

(4,305 posts)
2. That was then, this is now.
Mon Jan 18, 2021, 11:36 AM
Jan 2021

If they broke anything, if they took anything, if they screamed anything (eg hang mike pence, etc) , if they hit a cop or held a weapon, if they even went in that building, then NO MERCY!

Those outside that did any directing on their bullhorns, NO MERCY.

Those that came up with this, gave money, took money or gave direction on this idea should be held to the maximum of the law.

Those that just went to a rally because they are "simple minded" (stupid) then they are just stupid and that is their punishment for life.

thucythucy

(8,086 posts)
3. That's basically my view as well.
Mon Jan 18, 2021, 03:38 PM
Jan 2021

I wasn't saying that those directly involved shouldn't be punished.

My comment was directed at those who are saying "We shouldn't punish" the instigators. I thought Lincoln's line was a nice bit of history for those who say "we have to move on" etc.

GemDigger

(4,305 posts)
7. I knew you didn't mean it that way, I am sorry it sounded that way. I was letting off steam.
Mon Jan 18, 2021, 03:50 PM
Jan 2021

I am 10 years past my mercy point on those guys, starting with making President Obama a one term president and now this... I have no mercy left.

thucythucy

(8,086 posts)
8. I can't link to tweets on this particular device.
Mon Jan 18, 2021, 03:50 PM
Jan 2021

It's a line to a famous letter Lincoln wrote for publication.

I found it, among other places, in Mark Neely's book "The Last Best Hope." A really excellent (IMHO) book on Lincoln.

thucythucy

(8,086 posts)
9. Used another device and it came up as a tweet by John Cleese.
Wed Feb 3, 2021, 09:50 AM
Feb 2021

"In hindsight would you say the Nuremburg trials were divisive?"

To which the first reply was, "The Nazis just wanted us to come together..."

Always appreciate Cleese. A large man with a large intellect.

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