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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsTrump Wants To Be A Modern Day Grover Cleveland? Let's Learn Some History!
It seems to me that a leading question ought to be: do the American people want a common libertine for their president? So wrote a preacher from Buffalo, New York, to the editor of the Chicago Tribune on the eve of the 1884 presidential election.
Maine Senator James G. Blaine, the Republican candidate, had been shamed some years earlier when it came to light that hed been trading congressional favors for cash, something his Democratic rivals brought up at every opportunity. The Democrats, though, had troubles of their own. A scandalous tale about the misdeeds of their candidate, New York Governor Grover Cleveland, was gaining traction, along with a particularly grating chant directed at him: Ma, ma, wheres my Pa?
For on July 21, 1884, the Buffalo Evening Telegraph broke a story many in upstate New York had long known to be truethat 10 years earlier, a woman named Maria Halpin had given birth in that city to a son with the surname Cleveland and then been taken to a mental asylum while the child was adopted by another family.
Clevelands campaign, knowing there was no refuting the allegations, was almost blasé in admitting that yes, Cleveland and Halpin had been illicitly acquainted. At the time, the campaign provided this rationale: Cleveland was a bachelor, and Halpin had been rather free with her affections, including with some of Clevelands friendsprominent Buffalo businessmen all. As the only unmarried man of the bunch, Cleveland, though not certain the child was his, claimed paternity and helped Halpin name the boy and place him with a caring family. Really, hed been looking out for his friends and for a woman in unfortunate circumstances. The scandal was, of course, unfortunate, but the governors involvement was far from nefarious, and certainly shouldnt preclude him from serving as president (especially not when Blaine had already made it clear he was not a man to be trusted).
https://www.smithsonianmag.com/history/president-clevelands-problem-child-100800/
Maine Senator James G. Blaine, the Republican candidate, had been shamed some years earlier when it came to light that hed been trading congressional favors for cash, something his Democratic rivals brought up at every opportunity. The Democrats, though, had troubles of their own. A scandalous tale about the misdeeds of their candidate, New York Governor Grover Cleveland, was gaining traction, along with a particularly grating chant directed at him: Ma, ma, wheres my Pa?
For on July 21, 1884, the Buffalo Evening Telegraph broke a story many in upstate New York had long known to be truethat 10 years earlier, a woman named Maria Halpin had given birth in that city to a son with the surname Cleveland and then been taken to a mental asylum while the child was adopted by another family.
Clevelands campaign, knowing there was no refuting the allegations, was almost blasé in admitting that yes, Cleveland and Halpin had been illicitly acquainted. At the time, the campaign provided this rationale: Cleveland was a bachelor, and Halpin had been rather free with her affections, including with some of Clevelands friendsprominent Buffalo businessmen all. As the only unmarried man of the bunch, Cleveland, though not certain the child was his, claimed paternity and helped Halpin name the boy and place him with a caring family. Really, hed been looking out for his friends and for a woman in unfortunate circumstances. The scandal was, of course, unfortunate, but the governors involvement was far from nefarious, and certainly shouldnt preclude him from serving as president (especially not when Blaine had already made it clear he was not a man to be trusted).
https://www.smithsonianmag.com/history/president-clevelands-problem-child-100800/
Well if Trump wants to compare himself to this man, let's not forget that he was an absolute monster with raging psychopathic tendencies, and some horrible abuse violations much like Trump. Education is fun!
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Trump Wants To Be A Modern Day Grover Cleveland? Let's Learn Some History! (Original Post)
Initech
Jan 2021
OP
msongs
(67,432 posts)1. consitution does not require personal high moral standards to be president nt
FakeNoose
(32,705 posts)2. This is why it's so important that the Senate convicts him
He'll never be able to run for anything ever again.
Laelth
(32,017 posts)3. Cleveland was a saint in comparison to Trump. n/t
-Laelth
Captain Zero
(6,821 posts)4. Cleveland won the popular vote, 3x.
I think. So, no. Not the same. Trump can't be like him.