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hatrack

(59,592 posts)
Mon Jan 18, 2021, 10:23 PM Jan 2021

Well, Well, Well: Three Weeks In And Brexit Is Turning Out To Be An Unmitigated Economic Disaster

Brexit has beached the fishing boats at Hastings. The two-man crew of Paul Joy’s boat Kaya have left for shore jobs, after the price of the huss they land fell to just 2p a kilo. Exports to the European Union are Brexit-blighted, with fishers across Britain poleaxed by new costs and regulations, their catches rotting before they reach EU markets. It’s costing them millions already.

For the past two years Joy, a passionate Brexiter, has consistently told me he believes his industry would be shafted in any trade deal. “Betrayed, sacrificed,” he says, outraged at the government’s failure to secure British fishing rights for 12 miles around the coast, and now crippled by the export costs. So when foreign secretary Dominic Raab has the effrontery to tell the BBC’s Andrew Marr that this is “a great deal for the fishing industry”, he must know it’s not true. Other industries want to know if Boris Johnson’s promised “compensation” for fishing losses means a huge subsidy in perpetuity for this less than 0.2% sliver of the economy? Because the problems exploding in one industry after another, in less than three Brexit weeks, are not going away.

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The plight of the fishers is just a vivid emblem for the great blow that is falling on exporting parts of the economy. Michael Gove’s December warnings of “bumpy moments” upped an octave in the first week of this year, to Britain should prepare for “significant border disruption”. That well-staged last-minute-deal melodrama was designed to end Brexit stories, relegating all boring details of the aftermath to the business pages. Not so. The stories are so strong even the ardent Brexit-creating press can’t resist them – though now those newspapers add a self-exculpatory slant that blames the government for a bad Brexit. Here are some random discoveries since Brexit day.

The Sun warns of Brexit’s threat to the Cheltenham Festival: last year 180 Irish horses ran, but this year, “Brexit leaves Irish racehorse trainers fearing ‘colossal’ tax bill”. Likewise, the cost of taking UK showjump horses across the Channel is prohibitive for their British owners. Motorsport faces similar fees for cars shipped to EU races. The fashion industry – especially Asos-type, cheap end with small margins – is hitting a rules-of-origin crisis, paying new duties on its many products manufactured outside the EU. Fun stories in the Sun include the lorry driver crossing the Gibraltar/Spain border whose bottle of Nando’s sauce is confiscated, along with all those ham sandwiches snatched by the Dutch. The Daily Telegraph reports the flight of Europeans from England, but not from “remain-voting Scotland and Northern Ireland”. Farmers Weekly sends up flares about plunging meat prices, due to delayed exports.

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https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2021/jan/18/brexiters-damage-horse-racing-fishing-haulage-industry-chaos

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Well, Well, Well: Three Weeks In And Brexit Is Turning Out To Be An Unmitigated Economic Disaster (Original Post) hatrack Jan 2021 OP
I guess the passionate brexiter got what he wanted CanonRay Jan 2021 #1
It's almost like deailng with Trump cultists: from the comments section: hatrack Jan 2021 #3
Same mindset for sure CanonRay Jan 2021 #8
If Great Britain thinks that a trade deal with us will save them from the Brexit folly, Blue_true Jan 2021 #13
++ This- Most of the people who voted for brexit will statiscly be retired or dead before lunasun Jan 2021 #18
Golly! Pantagruel Jan 2021 #2
Putin! n/t moonscape Jan 2021 #16
The UK Sgent Jan 2021 #4
The EU is a massive collective, even without Great Britain. Blue_true Jan 2021 #15
I hear this may finally get Scotland to go independent and possibly N. Ireland and Wales. Kablooie Jan 2021 #5
So what? former9thward Jan 2021 #6
Yes I have read comments like Great Britain could become soon become Little Britain lunasun Jan 2021 #19
Great Britain literally begged to be admitted into the EU. Blue_true Jan 2021 #7
Maybe "populist" politicians won't be so popular in the future captain queeg Jan 2021 #9
Populism has always been about promising things that are tough to deliver. Blue_true Jan 2021 #17
Those thinking that secession would work here should be looking at Brexit. I doubt they are!! Thekaspervote Jan 2021 #10
Nigel Farage pushed lies to these fools just like trump did to our fools JDC Jan 2021 #11
I'm shocked. SHOCKED I tell you! GoCubsGo Jan 2021 #12
I guess we all saw this coming, but we thought it would take a few months FakeNoose Jan 2021 #14

hatrack

(59,592 posts)
3. It's almost like deailng with Trump cultists: from the comments section:
Mon Jan 18, 2021, 10:42 PM
Jan 2021

Brexiteers are unable to wake up to any facts. It is their core value to deny reality and reject facts, science and experts they don't need to tell them what to think.

Most of the people who voted for this will statiscly be retired or gone before the situation becomes unbearable for those who have to live with the consequences of their bygone views.

Blue_true

(31,261 posts)
13. If Great Britain thinks that a trade deal with us will save them from the Brexit folly,
Mon Jan 18, 2021, 11:02 PM
Jan 2021

they need to think again. Trade with us didn’t help them pre-1973, when it was being called a fading empire due to economic malaise there.

lunasun

(21,646 posts)
18. ++ This- Most of the people who voted for brexit will statiscly be retired or dead before
Mon Jan 18, 2021, 11:28 PM
Jan 2021

thier twisted wish plays out in full
It is very much like GOP and trumpers in that nationalism ,racism and anti immigration views were involved in voting decisions and the Conservatives were willing to destroy their party and the economy in order to achieve Brexit .

Sgent

(5,857 posts)
4. The UK
Mon Jan 18, 2021, 10:46 PM
Jan 2021

got completely rolled by the EU. No agreement on services means the UK's biggest exports completely stopped. It makes commercial fishing look like minnows.

Blue_true

(31,261 posts)
15. The EU is a massive collective, even without Great Britain.
Mon Jan 18, 2021, 11:05 PM
Jan 2021

In fact, I argue that Great Britain had significance and prospered only because it was the premiere English speaking member of the EU. Now Ireland likely takes that role.

Kablooie

(18,637 posts)
5. I hear this may finally get Scotland to go independent and possibly N. Ireland and Wales.
Mon Jan 18, 2021, 10:53 PM
Jan 2021

The United Kingdom may be dissolved because of Brexit.
They could then join the EU leaving only England out in the cold by itself.

Blue_true

(31,261 posts)
7. Great Britain literally begged to be admitted into the EU.
Mon Jan 18, 2021, 10:58 PM
Jan 2021

It was allowed in only after Charles deGaulle died. For some reason, deGaulle didn’t want Great Britain to be a part of the groups of nations in the federation that would become the EU. Once deGaulle died in 1970, the process of letting GB in started, it was admitted in 1973.

As an English speaking country with worldwide contacts, Great Britain started to thrive as an EU member, international finance and merchandise trading set up principal offices in Great Britain, to act as a conduit to greater Europe.

Now Great Britain has thrown away the prominence that EU membership gave it, all for mis-placed nationalism. It likely will shrink back to the economically dark period preceding 1973.

Blue_true

(31,261 posts)
17. Populism has always been about promising things that are tough to deliver.
Mon Jan 18, 2021, 11:08 PM
Jan 2021

Great Britain got tricked by the populists, and now is getting rolled.

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