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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsIs it time to put Political Party on the back burner?
And work to rescue our country from the destructive forces that attacked all of us? It is bigger than Democrat or Republican. It is about America. Our country will not rebuild itself. We have a lot of work in front of us and politics cannot be permitted to block our efforts.
We must find resolution. We must preserve justice and truth as best we can.
Is this an impossible mission?
dawg day
(7,947 posts)So no, I don't think we can avoid political parties. The democrats are the bulwark and the advance troops protecting democracy, and deserve credit for that.
Squinch
(50,989 posts)"bat-shit crazy republican cult member" and "not a bat-shit crazy republican cult member."
Steve Schmidt and AOC are members of the same party. That is the party of "do not let the cult Nazi-fy our country."
Happy Hoosier
(7,367 posts)Seriously... I hear people saying that, but what does that mean? Parties exist for a reason, and I don;t see those reasons going away anytime soon. Do you? If so, explain.
lagomorph777
(30,613 posts)They will try to blur the distinction, but we can't allow that to happen.
abqtommy
(14,118 posts)radical noodle
(8,010 posts)but we cannot forget that most of the Republicans put party before country. If they show a good faith effort we should as well, but we cannot unify as long as they continue to lie as they have the last four years.
N_E_1 for Tennis
(9,767 posts)I know personally I have to correct my attitude.
4.5 yrs. worth of eye rolls, sarcastic coughs, deep sighs of exasperation, snorts of derision are nearly hardwired in the head. These have to be replaced by more understanding and the knowledge that there are certain people you just cant convince about anything.
Our time is better spent romancing the large group of Independents life that is better under Democratic governance. I saw a graphic here this morning that 43% of Independents think Trump was the worst president in history. If we can grab even 25% of that group, game changed.
SharonClark
(10,014 posts)Democrats support truth and justice.
Republicans support fascism, hate, and fear.
The Democratic Party is the only entity that can save this democracy.
PoindexterOglethorpe
(25,873 posts)then I'd agree.
But remind me exactly which party vowed to make Obama a one-term President? And which party refused to confirm a new Supreme Court justice nominated by the other party some ten months before an election, but raced to confirm one of their own two weeks before an election? And which party is claiming voter fraud with zero proof. Or when voter fraud does show up, it's invariably someone from their party doing the fraud?
No. These people should be held accountable for the havoc they wreaked upon all of us. My huge concern is that Biden will decide to be conciliatory and forgiving, which will be a huge mistake. Obama was wrong in not pursuing criminal charges against the Bush administration, and Biden will be wrong if he thinks that we should "forgive and forget" the wrongs of the Trump administration.
greenjar_01
(6,477 posts)Good God.
Lunabell
(6,105 posts)But they've obstructed everything Democrats have tried to do for decades. So, no.
DEMOCRATS! FULL STEAM AHEAD!
franzwohlgemuth
(65 posts)warned us against ever being involved with parties. Parties didn't show up until after the constitution was made law, so it is not meant to work with or for parties to begin with.
America did this to itself. We were warned against political parties, perpetual war, perpetual deficit, electing vain self anointed people in office... Everything wrong with government and politics in this nation we were warned about, and we ignored.
marble falls
(57,145 posts)Formation of Political Parties - Creating the United ...
[Search domain www.loc.gov/exhibits/creating-the-united-states/formation-of-political-parties.html] https://www.loc.gov/exhibits/creating-the-united-states/formation-of-political-parties.html
Political factions or parties began to form during the struggle over ratification of the federal Constitution of 1787. Friction between them increased as attention shifted from the creation of a new federal government to the question of how powerful that federal government would be.
The struggle was between pro Consitutional Federalists and the anti Constitutional Anti Federalists.
franzwohlgemuth
(65 posts)weren't considered a party until 1792, after the Constitution was made official. Let alone, many founders warning us against political parties before and during the ratification. Even after (Washington's farewell speech).
marble falls
(57,145 posts)Are you suggesting that political parties spontaneously sprang up the day after the Constitution was passed? Maybe Constitutional protection for political parties wasn't necessarily a given at that point. George Washington came close to being made King George by public acclamation. Maybe other than GB, the concept of what was a "political party" just beginning to develop. You can't tell me Jefferson and Adams had no conflict politically all the while both being Patriots.
Maybe George was voicing a hunch about something he wasn't sure about.