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Donkees

(31,445 posts)
Tue Jan 19, 2021, 03:22 PM Jan 2021

The Bidens are flying a private plane to Washington, marking another break in protocol

From CNN's Jeff Zeleny

President-elect Joe Biden will fly to Washington today on a private aircraft, yet another change in protocol on the eve of his inauguration.

CNN’s Peter Morris spotted two Sun Country aircraft at the Delaware National Guard airfield, where Biden is scheduled to depart

A person familiar with the matter confirmed to CNN that Biden was not taking a US government plane to Joint Base Andrews for the first stop of his inauguration festivities.

"He’s flying private," the source said, declining to say whether the government did not offer Biden a plane.

A second source familiar with the matter said the government did not offer the Bidens a plane, but did not have details.

https://www.cnn.com/politics/live-news/biden-inauguration-dc-security-01-19-21/index.html


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The Bidens are flying a private plane to Washington, marking another break in protocol (Original Post) Donkees Jan 2021 OP
"The government did not offer the Bidens a plane" dalton99a Jan 2021 #1
Yah, what the hell does that mean??? eom a kennedy Jan 2021 #31
It Means The Tantrum Continues ProfessorGAC Jan 2021 #35
Trump refused to allow it. Thomas Hurt Jan 2021 #2
Not going by train? I'm kinda disappointed, but ... it's pretty understandable I suppose ... mr_lebowski Jan 2021 #3
Train trip was cancelled for security reasons... DonViejo Jan 2021 #9
Seems like they could sweep a train and dedicate it to just him and family Roland99 Jan 2021 #24
its not just the train drray23 Jan 2021 #27
true...gotcha Roland99 Jan 2021 #30
Standing trackside hidden by a bush or tree and firing a weapon at the train is also dangerous DonViejo Jan 2021 #28
A missile or rocket could screw the day up. magicarpet Jan 2021 #34
Trump: low class and petty to the end. madaboutharry Jan 2021 #4
Same thoughts here. Low class, petty, SOB. To the bitter end. Irish_Dem Jan 2021 #17
Jesus. Pretty much? Blue_playwright Jan 2021 #5
Aloha, Blue_playwright.. Cha Jan 2021 #14
Damn autocorrect on this phone! lol! Blue_playwright Jan 2021 #41
Yeah, I do not like my Cha Jan 2021 #42
Yup. I do marketing for Herky Jerky... Blue_playwright Jan 2021 #44
Geez, why don't they just publish the flight path and tail number while they're at it? lagomorph777 Jan 2021 #6
That's close to what I thought. Doreen Jan 2021 #18
If the ADS-B transponder is on, you'll get that info, & can track it in real time. CaptainTruth Jan 2021 #29
A second source familiar with the matter said the government did not offer the Bidens a plane... malaise Jan 2021 #7
Did anyone really expect anything different? n/t ClusterFreak Jan 2021 #8
Its ok. Biden will have a dignified inauguration with viewers from around the world applauding. Budi Jan 2021 #10
What's a flight to DC from Delaware? BGBD Jan 2021 #11
Just over one hour n/t Still Sensible Jan 2021 #16
Really? ProfessorGAC Jan 2021 #36
Really? It's under 100 miles right? BGBD Jan 2021 #37
Just over one hour n/t Still Sensible Jan 2021 #20
Looks like BGBD Jan 2021 #39
I hope one of Biden's executive orders... targetpractice Jan 2021 #12
I hope so too, though I must admit, the Trump scheme is less gaudy than I expected . . . Journeyman Jan 2021 #21
Yeah, but it still has 'MAGA HAT' red on it. nt woodsprite Jan 2021 #25
and his overly long tie flappin' in the wind MizLibby Jan 2021 #32
When given the choice Retrograde Jan 2021 #13
I'm bummed Amtrak Joe couldn't take the train Blue Owl Jan 2021 #15
Right now if I was Biden Mr.Bill Jan 2021 #19
Probably Flying Over My House AnnieBW Jan 2021 #22
Maybe it is just as well. I don't like the idea of Joe getting on a plane sent by Trump. Irish_Dem Jan 2021 #23
I suspect there is some decoy activity. CentralMass Jan 2021 #26
To me this seems to be one of the first moves of the Emperor of Florida. Hugin Jan 2021 #33
Congress might want to consider making it mandatory for gov to transport future Pres-elect. Hermit-The-Prog Jan 2021 #38
No Blair House Captain_New_York Jan 2021 #40
He is at Blair house tonight. Nt helpisontheway Jan 2021 #43

ProfessorGAC

(65,134 posts)
35. It Means The Tantrum Continues
Tue Jan 19, 2021, 04:28 PM
Jan 2021

He's not president yet, and there's no national emergency.
Getting a military plane is a courtesy extended by the outgoing administration.
That courtesy requires a sense of decorum, dignity, & class. Sorely lacking this time.

 

mr_lebowski

(33,643 posts)
3. Not going by train? I'm kinda disappointed, but ... it's pretty understandable I suppose ...
Tue Jan 19, 2021, 03:24 PM
Jan 2021

I swear if Trump was such a fucking shithead as to deny Biden a government plane ...

Roland99

(53,342 posts)
24. Seems like they could sweep a train and dedicate it to just him and family
Tue Jan 19, 2021, 03:39 PM
Jan 2021

but I guess getting from the station in DC to the Capitol would be an issue

magicarpet

(14,160 posts)
34. A missile or rocket could screw the day up.
Tue Jan 19, 2021, 04:25 PM
Jan 2021

Especially if the travel area is impossible to prescreen for harm or danger.

Stopping a shoulder launched anti-tank missile from crashing through a window of the train car Biden and family were in would be a nightmare.

There are miles and miles of train tracks were someone could be in wait and hiding among the trees ready to launch a rocket or missile.

madaboutharry

(40,216 posts)
4. Trump: low class and petty to the end.
Tue Jan 19, 2021, 03:25 PM
Jan 2021

"A second source familiar with the matter said the government did not offer the Bidens a plane, but did not have details."

Irish_Dem

(47,218 posts)
17. Same thoughts here. Low class, petty, SOB. To the bitter end.
Tue Jan 19, 2021, 03:34 PM
Jan 2021

Thank God he is going to be gone very soon.

Cha

(297,471 posts)
42. Yeah, I do not like my
Tue Jan 19, 2021, 11:49 PM
Jan 2021

auto correct when texting.

This microsoft edge 10 does not do it on my laptop.. so it's an advantage in my book!

Blue_playwright

(1,568 posts)
44. Yup. I do marketing for Herky Jerky...
Thu Jan 21, 2021, 12:34 PM
Jan 2021

And on my phone - every dang time it tries to change it to Hercules. WTF? I don’t get it! Lol

Doreen

(11,686 posts)
18. That's close to what I thought.
Tue Jan 19, 2021, 03:34 PM
Jan 2021

The other day they said something about moving the inauguration practice to Monday for security reasons. If it is for security reasons why are they announcing it to everybody?

CaptainTruth

(6,599 posts)
29. If the ADS-B transponder is on, you'll get that info, & can track it in real time.
Tue Jan 19, 2021, 04:02 PM
Jan 2021

One Twitter account that tracks such flights (they've tracked all of Trump's flights) is @CivMilAir

An example:

[link:
?s=19|]

SPAR70 out from Stuttgart

🇺🇸 US Air Force
C-37A 01-0076 https://t.co/PvHdS0s0EA

malaise

(269,134 posts)
7. A second source familiar with the matter said the government did not offer the Bidens a plane...
Tue Jan 19, 2021, 03:26 PM
Jan 2021

No class does not describe this monster

 

Budi

(15,325 posts)
10. Its ok. Biden will have a dignified inauguration with viewers from around the world applauding.
Tue Jan 19, 2021, 03:28 PM
Jan 2021

Donald Trump will have to settle for a pathetic send off as last place.

All eyes of the world will be on Joe Biden

ProfessorGAC

(65,134 posts)
36. Really?
Tue Jan 19, 2021, 04:30 PM
Jan 2021

It's around 90 miles. I've driven from Philly to Dover, then to DC.
I remember it being under an hour & a half by car.

 

BGBD

(3,282 posts)
37. Really? It's under 100 miles right?
Tue Jan 19, 2021, 04:31 PM
Jan 2021

Maybe some of that time is waiting for a runway. I bet Biden's plane wouldn't have to do that at Andrews.

targetpractice

(4,919 posts)
12. I hope one of Biden's executive orders...
Tue Jan 19, 2021, 03:30 PM
Jan 2021

... Is to cancel the new AF1 livery design by Donald Trump... And, keep the Kennedy designed "Tiffany blue" livery design.

Retrograde

(10,143 posts)
13. When given the choice
Tue Jan 19, 2021, 03:30 PM
Jan 2021

between doing something gracious, traditional, and good for the country and acting like an entitled, selfish brat, Trumps will always choose the latter.

This is up there with Mel refusing to meet with the Bidens at the White House. Sure, moving days can be hectic and chaotic, but having some coffee and chatting would take less than an hour of her precious ME!-time.

Blue Owl

(50,476 posts)
15. I'm bummed Amtrak Joe couldn't take the train
Tue Jan 19, 2021, 03:32 PM
Jan 2021

But totally get it with the security involved. Hopefully he'll ride the rails again!

Mr.Bill

(24,312 posts)
19. Right now if I was Biden
Tue Jan 19, 2021, 03:35 PM
Jan 2021

I would actually feel safer in a private plane than a Trump government plane.

AnnieBW

(10,449 posts)
22. Probably Flying Over My House
Tue Jan 19, 2021, 03:37 PM
Jan 2021

I live in the I-95 corridor in Maryland. They're probably flying right over my house!

Irish_Dem

(47,218 posts)
23. Maybe it is just as well. I don't like the idea of Joe getting on a plane sent by Trump.
Tue Jan 19, 2021, 03:37 PM
Jan 2021

All kinds of cooties.

Hugin

(33,177 posts)
33. To me this seems to be one of the first moves of the Emperor of Florida.
Tue Jan 19, 2021, 04:18 PM
Jan 2021

In an effort to de-legitimize President Biden's tenure.

These sorts of moves need to be met with an overwhelming sense of letting Trump and those who would follow him know that after noon on the 20th of January 2021 Trump has absolutely NO INFLUENCE or STANDING on the activities of the United State's Government.

Including, the reports of his attempts to assert himself in the media.

He's a pretender.

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