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https://www.kgw.com/article/news/local/protests/protests-planned-in-portland-on-inauguration-day/283-50a33cdc-a636-4d5e-acdc-5d33a7cb4635Video link
https://kgw.com/embeds/video/283-4986f6d3-f757-4bdc-a95a-00e1922ccd1a/iframe?jwsource=cl
"PORTLAND, Ore. -- Far-left, anti-police demonstrators smashed windows at the Democratic Party of Oregon building in Northeast Portland Wednesday afternoon. The vandalism took place just hours following President Joe Biden's inauguration.
The group responsible for the damage marched through parts of Southeast and Northeast Portland. They first gathered at 2 p.m. at Revolution Hall in Southeast Portland, where they were met by police officers on bikes.
The crowd took to the streets about an hour later. There were at least 100 people, many dressed in all black. Marchers held banners that had various messages including "We are ungovernable" and "A new world from the ashes." "
"Eight people were arrested in connection with the demonstration, according to Portland police. Their charges ranged from criminal mischief, to possession of a destructive device, to riot, to reckless burning. While making the arrests, officers recovered batons, irritant spray, Molotov cocktails, knives and a crowbar, police said.
The crowd splintered following the police response to the vandalism at the Democratic Party of Oregon headquarters.
Police released the following information on the people who were arrested:
22-year-old Kyle Romstad of Portland, Criminal Mischief II
22-year-old Kaiave Douvia, of Portland, Criminal Mischief I
18-year-old Jean V. Paris, of Albany, Interfering with a Peace Officer, Criminal Mischief III, Resist Arrest
18-year-old Alyssa Hartley Davis, of Albany, Interfering with a Peace Officer, Disorderly Conduct II
25-year-old Austin N. Nuchraska, of McMinnville, Possession of a Destructive Device, Criminal Mischief I
25-year-old Nicole Aria Rose, of Portland, Criminal Mischief I
31-year-old Darnell Kimberlin, of Portland, Reckless Burning, Criminal Mischief II
38-year-old Davis Alan Beeman, of Vancouver, WA, Riot, Disorderly Conduct II"
Turin_C3PO
(16,068 posts)will jump on this and use it as evidence that antifa is as bad as the right wing domestic terrorists. As if theres any comparison between this type of vandalism and actually breaking in to the US Capitol to execute opponents and overthrow the government. That said, these assholes need to be punished.
Kittycow
(2,396 posts)Historically, we can't even have a legit peaceful protest without thugs showing up.
There's a lot of layers with police brutality, etc but that'd be an essay.
CentralMass
(15,585 posts)Wicked Blue
(6,751 posts)More likely it's white supremacists posing as antifa.
CentralMass
(15,585 posts)You can look at the video in the article and take a look at the names of the arrested, etc..
bdamomma
(66,713 posts)or domestic terrorists. The far-left, that is a joke. Totally right wing lunatic fringe
CentralMass
(15,585 posts)bdamomma
(66,713 posts)nt
CentralMass
(15,585 posts)ProfessorGAC
(70,497 posts)With 18 year olds, breaking windows?
Great example.
Botany
(72,641 posts)Follow the money
And of course the Capitol insurrection was Antifa and BLM.
ret5hd
(21,320 posts)than the far left.
CentralMass
(15,585 posts)Response to CentralMass (Original post)
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msfiddlestix
(7,848 posts)Democratic Party offices or any building government or otherwise, particularly in this moment.
I suspect we will eventually learn that these were in fact right wing provocateurs posing as antifa for very obvious reasons.
Just using history and logic in the context of current events.
CentralMass
(15,585 posts)msfiddlestix
(7,848 posts)Just trying to make sense why on the day of the inauguration? Why not hit the RNC? They're the fascists.
CentralMass
(15,585 posts)msfiddlestix
(7,848 posts)But they only come to ruin anti-war and anti-police brutality protest demonstrations. They need cover of the throngs of demonstrators to march incognito until they see the opportune moment to break out and do their damage. Anarchists never come out without cover of protest demonstrators here.
I haven't encountered antifa, but observing Charlottesville it's clear to me who and what they view as the thing to "fight". White Supremacists, proudboys boogaloos etc. not the Democratic establishment.
CentralMass
(15,585 posts)Another link and quote.
https://www.oregonlive.com/pacific-northwest-news/2021/01/inauguration-day-in-oregon-protests-celebrations-expected-gov-kate-brown-cheers-a-new-chapter.html
"Earlier Wednesday, a crowd of about 200 people, including self-described anarchists, marched in the citys Central Eastside area and smashed windows at the Democratic Party of Oregon headquarters. Some of the demonstrators carried a sign that read We dont want Biden, we want revenge! in response to police murders and imperialist wars. Portland police said they arrested eight people."
LeftInTX
(30,488 posts)(Read that on another thread)...Sums it up for me
Anarchists pretty much oppose any type of government that has a military, police, World Trade Center etc etc etc
msfiddlestix
(7,848 posts)So, maybe I'll take a harder look at some point.
But essentially I think the message to anarchists (for me) is simply to say: fuck off you deranged assholes. You're just as bad as boogaloos/oathkeepers/neo-nazi's/white supremacists and the so called "sovereignists" loons.
superpatriotman
(6,574 posts)So far left theyve gone right.
Cuthbert Allgood
(5,191 posts)The far left of the spectrum is likely anarchists. They don't like government at all. They aren't in any way the same as the far right. You know--fascists.
dreamland
(981 posts)Into the right wing message? That girl who stole Pelosi's laptop was 22 years old. It's frightening, but I feel as if they missed out on education somewhere -whether at home or in schools and they are looking for answers in the wrong places
CentralMass
(15,585 posts)Wednesdays
(20,315 posts)Wonder why that is?
CentralMass
(15,585 posts)Do you know the history of these types of protest in Portland?
"Earlier Wednesday, a crowd of about 200 people, including self-described anarchists, marched in the citys Central Eastside area and smashed windows at the Democratic Party of Oregon headquarters. Some of the demonstrators carried a sign that read We dont want Biden, we want revenge! in response to police murders and imperialist wars. Portland police said they arrested eight people."
Wednesdays
(20,315 posts)but defensiveness wasn't the one I was expecting. I just wondered why there was no one else backing you up. Now I see that there are.
FWIW, from the start I agreed that those mobsters are no friends of ours.
CentralMass
(15,585 posts)CentralMass
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leftstreet
(36,410 posts)In cities like Portland, Seattle, northern CA, etc local governments tend to be heavily dominated by Democrats - city councils, mayors, guvs.
The dynamics of protesting are different.
dustyscamp
(2,374 posts)I looked around many of their twitter feeds and they aren't denouncing any of this. They are mad that their issues are constantly being sidelined by the people in charge. They want to abolish ice, kick out Ted Wheeler, destroy Fascists & white supremacists, end police brutality, & want justice for oppressed people. They won't stop until they get what they want.
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Sympthsical
(10,391 posts)And they love places like Oakland, Berkeley, Portland, and Seattle.
They're a mixed bag. You have your Antifa, Black Bloc, By Any Means Necessary, Anarchists, and others. I've seen the violence and the results first hand. And their violence has absolutely pre-dated the age of Trump.
When our side claims all violence is right-wing, we look like the same ones claiming those who assaulted the Capitol were actually Antifa. It's conspiracy theory at best. A denial of reality.
Look at all the big summits. The G-8, etc, where violent protests broke out. It's been happening since I was an adult. Did all those people just go away?
I promise you, they have not.
jalan48
(14,506 posts)Nihilism
a doctrine or belief that conditions in the social organization are so bad as to make destruction desirable for its own sake independent of any constructive program or possibility
https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/nihilism
https://iep.utm.edu/nihilism/
Hortensis
(58,785 posts)Any attempt to designate them as RW or LW is problematic.
One thing we know, LW extremists are far less prone to violence than RW. When violence increases, that suggests those extremists have migrated right. Which is very common. The far left and right routinely recruit from each other. Look to Trump's and Sanders's populist followings in 2015-2018, before Sanders himself backed out.
But these are a different type. They really can go either way, wherever the strength is, but they're not cultists. They're destroyers.
Roisin Ni Fiachra
(2,574 posts)Wonder if someone will get into their social media activity.
Hortensis
(58,785 posts)enabled to monitor domestic terrorists more as they do international terrorists. The Republicans have handicapped surveillance of domestic terrorists. Who can be a very useful tool for enabling fascistic power grabs. Civil unrest is SOP from Fascist Takeovers for Dummies.
JI7
(90,835 posts)Roisin Ni Fiachra
(2,574 posts)Roisin Ni Fiachra
(2,574 posts)He looks like a right winger.
chowder66
(9,877 posts)They remind me of waywards here in Hollywood. Some here are homeless, drug-addicted, mentally unwell, etc.
They cruise the streets together, ask for money and are not usually harmful to others but have been at times.
https://whnt.com/news/crowd-attacks-democratic-party-hq-in-portland-8-arrested/
Mossfern
(3,233 posts)just by their face.
Roisin Ni Fiachra
(2,574 posts)struggle4progress
(120,506 posts)roamer65
(37,224 posts)Makes me wonder.
JI7
(90,835 posts)They claim to be left or progressive but the left can be racist also.