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CentralMass

(15,585 posts)
Thu Jan 21, 2021, 08:25 AM Jan 2021

8 arrested after windows smashed at Democratic Party of Oregon building in Northeast Portland

https://www.kgw.com/article/news/local/protests/protests-planned-in-portland-on-inauguration-day/283-50a33cdc-a636-4d5e-acdc-5d33a7cb4635

Video link
https://kgw.com/embeds/video/283-4986f6d3-f757-4bdc-a95a-00e1922ccd1a/iframe?jwsource=cl

"PORTLAND, Ore. -- Far-left, anti-police demonstrators smashed windows at the Democratic Party of Oregon building in Northeast Portland Wednesday afternoon. The vandalism took place just hours following President Joe Biden's inauguration.

The group responsible for the damage marched through parts of Southeast and Northeast Portland. They first gathered at 2 p.m. at Revolution Hall in Southeast Portland, where they were met by police officers on bikes.
The crowd took to the streets about an hour later. There were at least 100 people, many dressed in all black. Marchers held banners that had various messages including "We are ungovernable" and "A new world from the ashes." "
"Eight people were arrested in connection with the demonstration, according to Portland police. Their charges ranged from criminal mischief, to possession of a destructive device, to riot, to reckless burning. While making the arrests, officers recovered batons, irritant spray, Molotov cocktails, knives and a crowbar, police said.

The crowd splintered following the police response to the vandalism at the Democratic Party of Oregon headquarters.
Police released the following information on the people who were arrested:

22-year-old Kyle Romstad of Portland, Criminal Mischief II
22-year-old Kaiave Douvia, of Portland, Criminal Mischief I
18-year-old Jean V. Paris, of Albany, Interfering with a Peace Officer, Criminal Mischief III, Resist Arrest
18-year-old Alyssa Hartley Davis, of Albany, Interfering with a Peace Officer, Disorderly Conduct II
25-year-old Austin N. Nuchraska, of McMinnville, Possession of a Destructive Device, Criminal Mischief I
25-year-old Nicole Aria Rose, of Portland, Criminal Mischief I
31-year-old Darnell Kimberlin, of Portland, Reckless Burning, Criminal Mischief II
38-year-old Davis Alan Beeman, of Vancouver, WA, Riot, Disorderly Conduct II"





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8 arrested after windows smashed at Democratic Party of Oregon building in Northeast Portland (Original Post) CentralMass Jan 2021 OP
Wingnuts Turin_C3PO Jan 2021 #1
I'm tired of these thugs making my city look like shit. Kittycow Jan 2021 #2
It gets old. CentralMass Jan 2021 #12
Far-left? How do they know that? Wicked Blue Jan 2021 #3
I've lived out here around 6 years now and history would say otherwise. CentralMass Jan 2021 #7
white supremacists bdamomma Jan 2021 #14
You can draw your own conclusions. CentralMass Jan 2021 #15
thank you for posting bdamomma Jan 2021 #18
You are welcome. CentralMass Jan 2021 #19
A 38 Year Old? ProfessorGAC Jan 2021 #4
I might be wrong but this smells of a right wing "false flag" operation Botany Jan 2021 #5
+1 moondust Jan 2021 #27
The ethos expressed more closely resembles the boogaloos... ret5hd Jan 2021 #6
You would think. CentralMass Jan 2021 #8
This message was self-deleted by its author bdamomma Jan 2021 #9
It doesn't make sense that any genuine self identified "leftist" engaged in vandalizing the msfiddlestix Jan 2021 #10
This is not new in Portland. It would be disingenuous to blame it on the right. CentralMass Jan 2021 #13
what precipitated this? Why now? msfiddlestix Jan 2021 #16
Who knows, there is an anarchistic element out here that feels the need to do this. CentralMass Jan 2021 #17
We have our anarchists in the Bay Area msfiddlestix Jan 2021 #20
I don't know if they have or need a cause. CentralMass Jan 2021 #21
They consider Democrats to be "fascist lite" LeftInTX Jan 2021 #33
Right, but I never associated antifa with anarchists. msfiddlestix Jan 2021 #34
Idiots superpatriotman Jan 2021 #11
Idiots? Sure. So far left they're right? Hardly Cuthbert Allgood Jan 2021 #30
How is it, that there are more young people being indoctrinated dreamland Jan 2021 #22
These protesters are not right wing. CentralMass Jan 2021 #23
You're the only one on this thread saying that Wednesdays Jan 2021 #25
Do you live in Oregon ? Did you read the article and watch the video? CentralMass Jan 2021 #29
Okay, I might have expected a response Wednesdays Jan 2021 #41
I didn't appreciate your insinuation. CentralMass Jan 2021 #45
Really. What did you expect your reply was going to yield ? CentralMass Jan 2021 #46
The poster is not wrong leftstreet Jan 2021 #35
Unfortunately, CentralMass is right they are a left wing anarchist movement. dustyscamp Jan 2021 #38
I live in the Bay Area, the violent Left very much exists Sympthsical Jan 2021 #44
I think nihilists more aptly describes them than far left. jalan48 Jan 2021 #24
Nihilists, anarchists. Where RW extremism merges LW extremism. Hortensis Jan 2021 #36
Typical Anarchists, young rebels without a clue. Roisin Ni Fiachra Jan 2021 #26
From statements, it seems likely the FBI and other services will be Hortensis Jan 2021 #40
Some are in their 30s JI7 Jan 2021 #42
"Young" is relative. nt Roisin Ni Fiachra Jan 2021 #47
Kyle Romstad mugshot 2020 Roisin Ni Fiachra Jan 2021 #28
All of the mugshots are here chowder66 Jan 2021 #31
You can't tell anyone's politics Mossfern Jan 2021 #32
Are you sure about that? nt Roisin Ni Fiachra Jan 2021 #48
Libertarians on parade! struggle4progress Jan 2021 #37
Far right provocateurs? roamer65 Jan 2021 #39
Rose Twitter Types. They wanted Trump to win. JI7 Jan 2021 #43

Turin_C3PO

(16,068 posts)
1. Wingnuts
Thu Jan 21, 2021, 08:30 AM
Jan 2021

will jump on this and use it as evidence that “antifa” is as bad as the right wing domestic terrorists. As if there’s any comparison between this type of vandalism and actually breaking in to the US Capitol to execute opponents and overthrow the government. That said, these assholes need to be punished.

Kittycow

(2,396 posts)
2. I'm tired of these thugs making my city look like shit.
Thu Jan 21, 2021, 08:31 AM
Jan 2021

Historically, we can't even have a legit peaceful protest without thugs showing up.

There's a lot of layers with police brutality, etc but that'd be an essay.

CentralMass

(15,585 posts)
7. I've lived out here around 6 years now and history would say otherwise.
Thu Jan 21, 2021, 08:37 AM
Jan 2021

You can look at the video in the article and take a look at the names of the arrested, etc..

bdamomma

(66,713 posts)
14. white supremacists
Thu Jan 21, 2021, 08:47 AM
Jan 2021

or domestic terrorists. The far-left, that is a joke. Totally right wing lunatic fringe

Response to CentralMass (Original post)

msfiddlestix

(7,848 posts)
10. It doesn't make sense that any genuine self identified "leftist" engaged in vandalizing the
Thu Jan 21, 2021, 08:44 AM
Jan 2021

Democratic Party offices or any building government or otherwise, particularly in this moment.

I suspect we will eventually learn that these were in fact right wing provocateurs posing as antifa for very obvious reasons.

Just using history and logic in the context of current events.

msfiddlestix

(7,848 posts)
16. what precipitated this? Why now?
Thu Jan 21, 2021, 08:52 AM
Jan 2021

Just trying to make sense why on the day of the inauguration? Why not hit the RNC? They're the fascists.

msfiddlestix

(7,848 posts)
20. We have our anarchists in the Bay Area
Thu Jan 21, 2021, 09:28 AM
Jan 2021

But they only come to ruin anti-war and anti-police brutality protest demonstrations. They need cover of the throngs of demonstrators to march incognito until they see the opportune moment to break out and do their damage. Anarchists never come out without cover of protest demonstrators here.

I haven't encountered antifa, but observing Charlottesville it's clear to me who and what they view as the thing to "fight". White Supremacists, proudboys boogaloos etc. not the Democratic establishment.

CentralMass

(15,585 posts)
21. I don't know if they have or need a cause.
Thu Jan 21, 2021, 09:38 AM
Jan 2021

Another link and quote.

https://www.oregonlive.com/pacific-northwest-news/2021/01/inauguration-day-in-oregon-protests-celebrations-expected-gov-kate-brown-cheers-a-new-chapter.html

"Earlier Wednesday, a crowd of about 200 people, including self-described anarchists, marched in the city’s Central Eastside area and smashed windows at the Democratic Party of Oregon headquarters. Some of the demonstrators carried a sign that read “We don’t want Biden, we want revenge!” in response to “police murders” and “imperialist wars.” Portland police said they arrested eight people."

LeftInTX

(30,488 posts)
33. They consider Democrats to be "fascist lite"
Thu Jan 21, 2021, 02:18 PM
Jan 2021

(Read that on another thread)...Sums it up for me

Anarchists pretty much oppose any type of government that has a military, police, World Trade Center etc etc etc

msfiddlestix

(7,848 posts)
34. Right, but I never associated antifa with anarchists.
Thu Jan 21, 2021, 02:40 PM
Jan 2021

So, maybe I'll take a harder look at some point.

But essentially I think the message to anarchists (for me) is simply to say: fuck off you deranged assholes. You're just as bad as boogaloos/oathkeepers/neo-nazi's/white supremacists and the so called "sovereignists" loons.

Cuthbert Allgood

(5,191 posts)
30. Idiots? Sure. So far left they're right? Hardly
Thu Jan 21, 2021, 01:57 PM
Jan 2021

The far left of the spectrum is likely anarchists. They don't like government at all. They aren't in any way the same as the far right. You know--fascists.

dreamland

(981 posts)
22. How is it, that there are more young people being indoctrinated
Thu Jan 21, 2021, 10:04 AM
Jan 2021

Into the right wing message? That girl who stole Pelosi's laptop was 22 years old. It's frightening, but I feel as if they missed out on education somewhere -whether at home or in schools and they are looking for answers in the wrong places

CentralMass

(15,585 posts)
29. Do you live in Oregon ? Did you read the article and watch the video?
Thu Jan 21, 2021, 01:53 PM
Jan 2021

Do you know the history of these types of protest in Portland?

"Earlier Wednesday, a crowd of about 200 people, including self-described anarchists, marched in the city’s Central Eastside area and smashed windows at the Democratic Party of Oregon headquarters. Some of the demonstrators carried a sign that read “We don’t want Biden, we want revenge!” in response to “police murders” and “imperialist wars.” Portland police said they arrested eight people."

Wednesdays

(20,315 posts)
41. Okay, I might have expected a response
Thu Jan 21, 2021, 07:39 PM
Jan 2021

but defensiveness wasn't the one I was expecting. I just wondered why there was no one else backing you up. Now I see that there are.

FWIW, from the start I agreed that those mobsters are no friends of ours.

CentralMass

(15,585 posts)
46. Really. What did you expect your reply was going to yield ?
Fri Jan 22, 2021, 08:11 AM
Jan 2021

Last edited Sun Jan 24, 2021, 09:00 AM - Edit history (1)

leftstreet

(36,410 posts)
35. The poster is not wrong
Thu Jan 21, 2021, 02:46 PM
Jan 2021

In cities like Portland, Seattle, northern CA, etc local governments tend to be heavily dominated by Democrats - city councils, mayors, guvs.

The dynamics of protesting are different.

dustyscamp

(2,374 posts)
38. Unfortunately, CentralMass is right they are a left wing anarchist movement.
Thu Jan 21, 2021, 03:09 PM
Jan 2021

I looked around many of their twitter feeds and they aren't denouncing any of this. They are mad that their issues are constantly being sidelined by the people in charge. They want to abolish ice, kick out Ted Wheeler, destroy Fascists & white supremacists, end police brutality, & want justice for oppressed people. They won't stop until they get what they want.








Sympthsical

(10,391 posts)
44. I live in the Bay Area, the violent Left very much exists
Thu Jan 21, 2021, 07:52 PM
Jan 2021

And they love places like Oakland, Berkeley, Portland, and Seattle.

They're a mixed bag. You have your Antifa, Black Bloc, By Any Means Necessary, Anarchists, and others. I've seen the violence and the results first hand. And their violence has absolutely pre-dated the age of Trump.

When our side claims all violence is right-wing, we look like the same ones claiming those who assaulted the Capitol were actually Antifa. It's conspiracy theory at best. A denial of reality.

Look at all the big summits. The G-8, etc, where violent protests broke out. It's been happening since I was an adult. Did all those people just go away?

I promise you, they have not.

jalan48

(14,506 posts)
24. I think nihilists more aptly describes them than far left.
Thu Jan 21, 2021, 11:59 AM
Jan 2021

Nihilism

a doctrine or belief that conditions in the social organization are so bad as to make destruction desirable for its own sake independent of any constructive program or possibility

https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/nihilism

https://iep.utm.edu/nihilism/

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
36. Nihilists, anarchists. Where RW extremism merges LW extremism.
Thu Jan 21, 2021, 03:02 PM
Jan 2021

Any attempt to designate them as RW or LW is problematic.

One thing we know, LW extremists are far less prone to violence than RW. When violence increases, that suggests those extremists have migrated right. Which is very common. The far left and right routinely recruit from each other. Look to Trump's and Sanders's populist followings in 2015-2018, before Sanders himself backed out.

But these are a different type. They really can go either way, wherever the strength is, but they're not cultists. They're destroyers.

Roisin Ni Fiachra

(2,574 posts)
26. Typical Anarchists, young rebels without a clue.
Thu Jan 21, 2021, 12:12 PM
Jan 2021

Wonder if someone will get into their social media activity.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
40. From statements, it seems likely the FBI and other services will be
Thu Jan 21, 2021, 03:14 PM
Jan 2021

enabled to monitor domestic terrorists more as they do international terrorists. The Republicans have handicapped surveillance of domestic terrorists. Who can be a very useful tool for enabling fascistic power grabs. Civil unrest is SOP from Fascist Takeovers for Dummies.

chowder66

(9,877 posts)
31. All of the mugshots are here
Thu Jan 21, 2021, 01:59 PM
Jan 2021

They remind me of waywards here in Hollywood. Some here are homeless, drug-addicted, mentally unwell, etc.
They cruise the streets together, ask for money and are not usually harmful to others but have been at times.

https://whnt.com/news/crowd-attacks-democratic-party-hq-in-portland-8-arrested/

JI7

(90,835 posts)
43. Rose Twitter Types. They wanted Trump to win.
Thu Jan 21, 2021, 07:47 PM
Jan 2021

They claim to be left or progressive but the left can be racist also.

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