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Mods please explain why Biden isn't arrested yet (Original Post) DetlefK Jan 2021 OP
It's their very own Fitzmas morning! Bleacher Creature Jan 2021 #1
So what date do we wait for now? TheBlackAdder Jan 2021 #17
I know plenty of people disagree ScratchCat Jan 2021 #2
A lot of QAnon wearers showed up at the Capitol on Jan 6. yardwork Jan 2021 #7
... Wawannabe Jan 2021 #11
There are over 300 million people in America ScratchCat Jan 2021 #14
There are a lot more out there who didn't storm the Capitol. progressoid Jan 2021 #23
Trump tells countless false conspiracy theories all the time JonLP24 Jan 2021 #27
Nope, there's a bunch out there NHvet Jan 2021 #20
You would be astounded. I know them. Laelth Jan 2021 #34
"What date do we wait for now?" BComplex Jan 2021 #3
About to Puke was good but, What date to wait for was perfect. Arne Jan 2021 #4
The answer to the question: "What date do we wait for now?" Baitball Blogger Jan 2021 #5
I used to see posts in say late 2017 treestar Jan 2021 #6
"Why isn't Trump arrested yet?", It's what I've been wondering all day KS Toronado Jan 2021 #19
Reminds me of some of the posts on DU four years ago calguy Jan 2021 #8
Special kind of stupid Thomas Hurt Jan 2021 #9
I read that a lot of them have moved the goalpost again. The next date is March 4 catbyte Jan 2021 #10
Implicit in Levinson is that a deep state competent impartial bureaucracy is necessary Bernardo de La Paz Jan 2021 #24
So are they trying to invalidate the 20th Amendment treestar Jan 2021 #29
Yeah. They called it the "real Constitution." They're just smart enough to be dumb & dangerous. catbyte Jan 2021 #31
"Chill! Just trust "The plan"..... oh and send me some more money..." nt Guy Whitey Corngood Jan 2021 #12
"So what date do we wait for now" says it all, doesn't it? StarfishSaver Jan 2021 #13
What if, while they're waiting, they took some time to learn... CaptainTruth Jan 2021 #15
YOU'RE CRAZY! You asked...... KS Toronado Jan 2021 #21
There's your 'Catch 22' angstlessk Jan 2021 #28
I've Got to Believe this is a Massive Fraud Case if its been Monetized Stallion Jan 2021 #16
Some of the Qidiots are now saying President Biden is the one that will bring the 'Great Awakening' SeattleVet Jan 2021 #18
Of the believers, I think most expect the military to take over any day now. They point to Bernardo de La Paz Jan 2021 #26
LOL treestar Jan 2021 #30
Indeed. That's when it's made a bit more coherent and less stream of conscious. Here's source Bernardo de La Paz Jan 2021 #32
Huh? Really? Laelth Jan 2021 #35
So Q is a person, it seems treestar Jan 2021 #36
No cure for stupid among that bunch. DinahMoeHum Jan 2021 #22
All this is happening during a global crisis when our heads need to be clear.... KY_EnviroGuy Jan 2021 #25
Have them look up end times prophecies. Renew Deal Jan 2021 #33

ScratchCat

(2,002 posts)
2. I know plenty of people disagree
Thu Jan 21, 2021, 01:46 PM
Jan 2021

But that is just world class trolling. I refuse to believe more than a handful of jackbobs believe this Qanon stuff. 80%+ of the posts are just trolling. I'm sorry, I refuse to believe any significant number of people thought the election outcome was going to be changed some time between January 6th and January 20th.

yardwork

(61,712 posts)
7. A lot of QAnon wearers showed up at the Capitol on Jan 6.
Thu Jan 21, 2021, 01:50 PM
Jan 2021

Lin Wood, an actual attorney for Trump, has been tweeting stuff weirder than QAnon. Wood actually believes in lizard people. More than 70 million people voted for Trump, and frankly you'd have to believe some QAnon stuff to do that.

ScratchCat

(2,002 posts)
14. There are over 300 million people in America
Thu Jan 21, 2021, 01:59 PM
Jan 2021

And they got a couple hundred to storm the Capitol. A couple hundred. Sure, there were a couple thousand outside like a tailgate party, but by watching the footage, those folks had no interest in storming anything. The people who really believe the Qanon stuff are few and far between.

Most people who voted for Trump in 2020 did so for the same reasons they voted for him in 2016 - He was the GOP candidate.

progressoid

(49,999 posts)
23. There are a lot more out there who didn't storm the Capitol.
Thu Jan 21, 2021, 04:46 PM
Jan 2021

I recently checked in on a couple former FB "friends." They aren't coming out as full Q supporters but they are still spewing some crazy conspiracy shit. The reality they built around Trump, the deep state. etc is crumbling. So they are creating new realities rather than face the truth. They aren't full blown Qanon quacks but they are still off the chart loons. And they are more mainstream and numerous than the Q quacks. Just look at the support people like Louie Gohmert or Boebert get.

JonLP24

(29,322 posts)
27. Trump tells countless false conspiracy theories all the time
Thu Jan 21, 2021, 05:19 PM
Jan 2021

Some of the voters may not believe in Qanon but they do believe a portion of Trump's BS.

NHvet

(240 posts)
20. Nope, there's a bunch out there
Thu Jan 21, 2021, 04:20 PM
Jan 2021

My SIL is a die hard believer. Much of it is due to she listens to talk radio for 8hrs+ a day when at work. She and another woman traveled together to DC for the Dec 12th rally and they both traveled back again for the Jan 6th overthrow party thinking that the election results were going to be changed to their liking. Sorry to say, but she would need lots of deep therapy to help bring her back to this world.

Laelth

(32,017 posts)
34. You would be astounded. I know them.
Thu Jan 21, 2021, 09:59 PM
Jan 2021

I live among many of them. They are SERIOUSLY deluded. They live in almost-perfect, insular bubbles of group-think. They can not fathom how many people actually disagree with them. They are for real—many of them, in any event.

-Laelth

Baitball Blogger

(46,762 posts)
5. The answer to the question: "What date do we wait for now?"
Thu Jan 21, 2021, 01:50 PM
Jan 2021

Answer: It should only take 10 minutes, if you can hold your breath that long.

treestar

(82,383 posts)
6. I used to see posts in say late 2017
Thu Jan 21, 2021, 01:50 PM
Jan 2021

"Why isn't Hillary in jail yet?"

TTTT I expect this board to have "Why isn't Trump arrested yet?" in the not too distant future.

KS Toronado

(17,353 posts)
19. "Why isn't Trump arrested yet?", It's what I've been wondering all day
Thu Jan 21, 2021, 04:15 PM
Jan 2021

Wish like hell somebody would get their ass in gear and do what needs to be done.

catbyte

(34,467 posts)
10. I read that a lot of them have moved the goalpost again. The next date is March 4
Thu Jan 21, 2021, 01:52 PM
Jan 2021

because that was Inauguration Day until 1933 when the 20th Amendment was adopted. They are the most pathetic bunch of traitors I've seen in my lifetime.


The oddities of Inauguration Day

Q & A with Sandy Levinson


GAZETTE:
After the first inauguration of George Washington was held on was April 30, 1789, his second was held on March 4, 1793, and from that time on, March 4 was established as the official Inauguration Day. Can you explain why?

LEVINSON: It was completely arbitrary. March 4 was the date when officially the first Congress held its first meeting, and so that was taken as the zero point. April 30 happened also arbitrarily because it took that long, frankly, for people to get to New York from God knows where, by cart and the like. That’s how it was decided that March 4 would be the official date for the beginning and ending of terms. George Washington was a good sport. He didn’t say, “I get four years and four years should mean April 30.” He accepted March 4. And that’s how March 4 became Inauguration Day. It’s as simple as that.

GAZETTE: Why and when was Inauguration Day moved from March 4 to Jan. 20?

LEVINSON: What happened was one of my favorite amendments to the Constitution, which is the 20th Amendment, which is never taught and is not thought about. It’s regarded as dull and boring, a housekeeping amendment, but it’s important in two different ways. The first is that it illustrates that serious people were once interested in structural issues. In 1933, when we were in the middle of a worldwide depression, people realized that it was really dumb and dangerous to wait so long to inaugurate Franklin Roosevelt as the new president. They also did another thing that was very important. They moved up the date that Congress met to the very beginning of January. Until then, one of the craziest features of the Constitution is that a newly elected Congress did not meet for 13 months after the election. FDR, in fact, had to call a special session of Congress on March 4 when he was inaugurated because otherwise Congress would not have met until December of 1933. The 20th Amendment was quickly introduced and quickly ratified, and it’s very important because it moved Inauguration Day up to Jan. 20. But I think we should now realize, almost 90 years later, that Jan. 20 isn’t good enough. All of the dangers that were present by delaying inauguration to March 4 are now present from delaying it until Jan. 20.

snip

https://news.harvard.edu/gazette/story/2021/01/a-look-at-the-long-odd-history-of-inauguration-day/

Bernardo de La Paz

(49,047 posts)
24. Implicit in Levinson is that a deep state competent impartial bureaucracy is necessary
Thu Jan 21, 2021, 05:06 PM
Jan 2021

If the bureaucracy is all political, then it can take a long time to untangle it. But if there are many non-political appointees high up, then there is more continuity and transition can be much faster.

catbyte

(34,467 posts)
31. Yeah. They called it the "real Constitution." They're just smart enough to be dumb & dangerous.
Thu Jan 21, 2021, 06:39 PM
Jan 2021

They have no idea what they're talking about or amendments or any of that stuff.

CaptainTruth

(6,604 posts)
15. What if, while they're waiting, they took some time to learn...
Thu Jan 21, 2021, 02:01 PM
Jan 2021

...how our government actually works?

Call me crazy, many have & I'm certain many more will.

KS Toronado

(17,353 posts)
21. YOU'RE CRAZY! You asked......
Thu Jan 21, 2021, 04:34 PM
Jan 2021

You're really not crazy, as more of tRump's crimes come into the light of day, tRumpers will start asking
themselves why they believed so much BS. Let's hope they lay it at Fox's doorstep.

SeattleVet

(5,480 posts)
18. Some of the Qidiots are now saying President Biden is the one that will bring the 'Great Awakening'
Thu Jan 21, 2021, 04:12 PM
Jan 2021

Once their conspiracy theory fell apart, they had to come up with new twisted rationales for what went wrong.



https://www.newser.com/story/301571/for-qanon-believers-now-what.html

For QAnon believers, the promised "storm" never came. Donald Trump is out and Joe Biden is in at the White House. There was no final-day declaration of martial law, no mass arrests, no continuation of the Trump presidency. All of which raise the question: What happens now to the conspiracy movement that believes Trump was going to bring down a global cabal of Satan-worshiping pedophiles? Coverage:

A split: Based on the immediate reaction seen online, QAnon seems to have "fractured into two groups," writes Jack Brewster at Forbes. One camp is feeling duped and seething about it: "It's done and we were played," wrote someone on the Telegram app, per the BBC. The other camp is keeping the faith and counseling patience.

Morphing: Some believers are adapting their views to the new reality, with a theory emerging that Biden has been part of the plan all along, notes Kevin Roose of the New York Times. Biden, not Trump, will be the one who "pulls the trigger," in the words of one post on Telegram. Roose also tracked the "desperation setting in on QAnon Telegram" here. Researcher Alex Kaplan also tracked real-time reaction during the inauguration here.

Bernardo de La Paz

(49,047 posts)
26. Of the believers, I think most expect the military to take over any day now. They point to
Thu Jan 21, 2021, 05:16 PM
Jan 2021

They point to a few things, which they misinterpret, over-extrapolate, or just make up:

1) Biden took the oath 10 minutes before noon. They say either of a) this is illegal, or b) it is a signal. It is of course neither.

The transition takes place at noon, regardless. Swearing in before hand ensures perfect continuity without any period naysayers could say he wasn't sworn in at that moment.

2) Biden took a non-military jet to DC because the military denied him one. I don't believe it. I think it was a simple choice Biden himself made.

3) They say that Biden had to actually take the oath to become a criminal usurper regarding the stolen election. That he could not be arrested until he took that fateful step directly into the conspiracy. That is because the military can't enter until they have an official point when the Democratic coup crossed a line, under some section 11.3, it is claimed. Nonsense, of course.

4) Q in a couple of droppings Oct 2020 said Biden would be sworn in because he took bribes from foreign countries.

Bernardo de La Paz

(49,047 posts)
32. Indeed. That's when it's made a bit more coherent and less stream of conscious. Here's source
Thu Jan 21, 2021, 09:55 PM
Jan 2021

Don't know if the source will be more or less entertaining. Some of the most entertaining are the ones that begin like "We know Trump signed Insurrection Act because 10th Mtn Div Marines spotted in DC." (actual quote).

Anyway, here is the source that prompted that post:

I was sent this today....Any comments???
Carrie sent Today at 6:19 PM
Someone wrote this ....

“At First I Was Disappointed In Today's Events And Then I Realized Why
The Military Wanted Biden Sworn In - And Q Told Us Why
This HAD to
Happen

Like many of you, I am in shock by today's event, and then I realized
why it had to happen and that Q told us it would happen and, why this
NEEDED to happen. Q did tell us that a SCARE EVENT would be
needed. Well, are you scared yet?

1.) Q posts 4821 and 4822, from Oct. 7th 2020, told us about Biden
being sworn in and would the countries he took bribes from then be in
control of the government. [Important point I will be coming back to].

2.) Biden had to take a private jet to Washington, D.C. and was not
sent a government plan.
This was the first time in history this has
happened [Again, I will get back to it].

3.) Many of us assumed when Trump and those in his administration were
referring to the next administration it meant the military.
We
expected him to step down (to remain neutral as Q said) while all this
went down. Trump did say that the next administration would take over
at noon today Like many, I thought this was over when Biden was sworn
in as he now became the CiC. Boy, was I wrong.

Because of the fraud (as pointed out), if the military has the proof
of it
then they have a duty under military code to remove the false
government and restore a new legal civilian government under military
code 11.3 which triggered when Biden was sworn in today
(Q#26: when
11.3 verifies as 1st marker).

There was a fear in the McCarthy era that the communists could take
over our government, so provisions were put in place for the military
to protect us should that happen. These provisions allow the military
to take control while they remove the belligerent government and
restore a legal civilian government (with the military running the
elections to do that). Literally, the military was put in place as the
last line of defense of the Constitution should an illegal government
be installed.

This is why they didn't send a government plane for the
President-Elect - because they know he is not a legitimate President
and, once he was sworn in, the government became illegitimate
(belligerent) and the military is now responsible for restoring
legitimate civilian government
(otherwise foreign powers will gain
control - see #1 above).

Q said the end wouldn't be for everybody. We have been told by
Trump. Flynn and others, that America would soon get a lesson in the
Constitution.

Well folks, effective at noon today, when Biden illegally swore in
with assistance of foreign nations he just made the government
illegitimate and effectively put the military in control. So, while
like many, I thought it was over when Biden was sworn in today, I
realized Q told us it NEEDED to happen for the military to assume
control without it being a military coup (Q said it all had to be done
by the book).”

1,000 posted on 1/20/2021, by Iscool

https://freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/3927118/posts?page=1000#1000

treestar

(82,383 posts)
36. So Q is a person, it seems
Fri Jan 22, 2021, 09:09 AM
Jan 2021

Their new cult leader.

The military is now in charge. So the next let down is when the installation of the new legitimate government does not happen. I suppose that means a triumphal return of Trump to the WH!

Thanks for digging into that particular cesspool!

KY_EnviroGuy

(14,495 posts)
25. All this is happening during a global crisis when our heads need to be clear....
Thu Jan 21, 2021, 05:07 PM
Jan 2021

but instead, fascist wingnuts want to keep the public's heads spinning in total confusion. Other serious crises patiently wait in the wings: climate change, economic collapse, mass migration, dwindling fresh water resources, etc.

Will these nutjobs work beside us if we have an overwhelming crisis such as another world war or great depression?

KY

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