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Why do racists watch sports if they hate people with color? (Original Post) mysteryowl Jan 2021 OP
Plantation mentality, plain and simple. eom tarheelsunc Jan 2021 #1
This Ferrets are Cool Jan 2021 #34
Like in 'Django Unchained' BlueCanine Jan 2021 #42
They see them as trained animals. Mr.Bill Jan 2021 #2
Exactly, and there's also what I call liberalhistorian Jan 2021 #10
For their entertainment. Didn't they make enslaved kids dance and sing JI7 Jan 2021 #3
Mental compartmentalizing. They can admire proficiencies as long as the people don't live next Karadeniz Jan 2021 #4
The picture them as Gladiators, who were mostly slaves. LakeArenal Jan 2021 #5
+1000 Celerity Jan 2021 #27
I'm a lifelong liberal Democrat and I really appreciate sports. panader0 Jan 2021 #6
I think of Leonardo DiCaprio's character in Django Unchained texasfiddler Jan 2021 #7
Loved that movie, except the lead woman, ALL SHE DID WAS SCREAM......SO ANNOYING.... a kennedy Jan 2021 #9
Why were black people brought to America in the first place? unblock Jan 2021 #8
and have you ever seen the movie "Get Out"?. Gotta watch or rent it..... a kennedy Jan 2021 #11
Seen it, great movie indeed. unblock Jan 2021 #29
I do notice that there are more complaints of athletes salaries JonLP24 Jan 2021 #12
You remember that Curt Schilling, the star holdout in MLB never got his career back. halfulglas Jan 2021 #30
Bad example. Schilling is about as rabid a right winger as you can be. Ferrets are Cool Jan 2021 #36
I think you got the wrong Curt... IngridsLittleAngel Jan 2021 #37
Oops, my bad. You're right by decades. halfulglas Jan 2021 #43
If you are old enough, you'll remember near riots when SEC was integrated. Hoyt Jan 2021 #13
Lots of Southerners prefer college sports... Buckeye_Democrat Jan 2021 #14
NASCAR & HOCKEY mysteryowl Jan 2021 #17
My father was a devout racist but the man loved his sports. Dagstead Bumwood Jan 2021 #15
My dad too Wawannabe Jan 2021 #20
Love that term "devout" racist. halfulglas Jan 2021 #32
For the same reason they have them raise their children? David__77 Jan 2021 #16
Ah... good observation mysteryowl Jan 2021 #19
That's the thing I could never understand. Mr.Bill Jan 2021 #22
They may consider white supremacy to be natural law. David__77 Jan 2021 #23
Good point. n/t Mr.Bill Jan 2021 #25
Not just handle, they sometimes made slave "mammies" wet-nurses to their children. July Jan 2021 #39
Not just handle, they sometimes made slave "mammies" wet-nurses to their children. July Jan 2021 #40
Sad to say but my dad was racist Wawannabe Jan 2021 #18
Tough for him to fully enjoy the sports, yet mysteryowl Jan 2021 #21
Dad had PTSD Wawannabe Jan 2021 #24
and look how you turned out! mysteryowl Jan 2021 #26
My dad had a different experience in the Army. Mr.Bill Jan 2021 #33
Three words LSFL Jan 2021 #28
Goes back forever. When Joe Lewis fought Max Schmeling all of America was pulling for him. GulfCoast66 Jan 2021 #31
Might be kind of like rodeo hurl Jan 2021 #35
I come from a family of racists... IngridsLittleAngel Jan 2021 #38
Racist compartmentalize often uponit7771 Jan 2021 #41

BlueCanine

(87 posts)
42. Like in 'Django Unchained'
Sat Jan 23, 2021, 10:50 PM
Jan 2021

They are ok with cheering an exploited gladiator if it's entertaining to them.

Mr.Bill

(24,300 posts)
2. They see them as trained animals.
Sat Jan 23, 2021, 08:10 PM
Jan 2021

That's why they don't like it when they talk about politics or social justice.

liberalhistorian

(20,818 posts)
10. Exactly, and there's also what I call
Sat Jan 23, 2021, 08:19 PM
Jan 2021

the "some of my friends are black" syndrome; they think this excuses them from their racism and allows them to make racist statements without being called out on it.

texasfiddler

(1,990 posts)
7. I think of Leonardo DiCaprio's character in Django Unchained
Sat Jan 23, 2021, 08:16 PM
Jan 2021

Sorry if you haven't watched the movie. This is what I thought about.

a kennedy

(29,671 posts)
9. Loved that movie, except the lead woman, ALL SHE DID WAS SCREAM......SO ANNOYING....
Sat Jan 23, 2021, 08:19 PM
Jan 2021

but you’re right and all my neighbors are NFL fans, but they just despise if a QB is black. I don’t get it either.

unblock

(52,243 posts)
8. Why were black people brought to America in the first place?
Sat Jan 23, 2021, 08:17 PM
Jan 2021

Because slave owners wanted to exploit other people. The wanted the benefits of the hard work and talents of others while giving them as little as possible in exchange.

Slave owners often made their slaves entertain them as well as work in the fields and such.

Some extreme racists want all blacks dead or exiled. But most want them to be here and exploited, treated as second-class citizens, or worse.

Sports is one way to continue that. Let them get the concussions and a lifetime of pain for the sake of some weekend entertainment for the rest of us.

a kennedy

(29,671 posts)
11. and have you ever seen the movie "Get Out"?. Gotta watch or rent it.....
Sat Jan 23, 2021, 08:21 PM
Jan 2021

fantastic, and lotsa views on blackisum (is that even a word?)

JonLP24

(29,322 posts)
12. I do notice that there are more complaints of athletes salaries
Sat Jan 23, 2021, 08:24 PM
Jan 2021

Than team owners threatening to relocate for stadium subsidies.

I think a lot of people don't realize sports is also a business. Athletes with elite talent are more difficult to replace because of supply and demand. They also have a strong union.

The NCAA, networks, & coaches make big money off the labor of their athletes but at least they are adjusting.

https://www.npr.org/2019/10/29/774439078/ncaa-starts-process-to-allow-compensation-for-college-athletes

halfulglas

(1,654 posts)
30. You remember that Curt Schilling, the star holdout in MLB never got his career back.
Sat Jan 23, 2021, 08:55 PM
Jan 2021

MLB contracts were like slavery. The team owner owned you ability to play in the major leagues and no matter how great you were, you could negotiate, but in the end it was take what you're offered or you don't play. No free agency unless the team released you thinking you were of no use them. Curt Schilling was a huge star and said no. The players won but Schilling never got his career back.

Ferrets are Cool

(21,106 posts)
36. Bad example. Schilling is about as rabid a right winger as you can be.
Sat Jan 23, 2021, 09:12 PM
Jan 2021

Curt Schilling tweets his support for those who carried out attack on U.S. Capitol on Wednesday



Curt Schilling, the former baseball great, turned failed gaming entrepreneur, turned disgraced ESPN host, turned Twitter personality pivoted to his latest hobby: volunteer surrogate of a white supremacist rebellion.

The outspoken ultra-conservative right-hander tweeted his support of Wednesday’s right-wing coup attempt at the U.S. Capitol building.

Schilling began by slamming anti-police violence protests as an example of true criminality gone unpunished, despite the frequent arrests and use of suppressive and sometimes deadly force.



“You cowards sat on your hands, did nothing while liberal trash looted rioted and burned for air Jordan’s and big screens,” Schilling wrote, slamming anti-police violence protests like the demonstrations that emerged as a response to the Minneapolis police officers that killed George Floyd while he was in custody.

“Sit back, [shut up] and watch folks start a confrontation for [expletive] that matters like rights, democracy and the end of [government] corruption,” Schilling then wrote of the mob attack, which resulted in five deaths — including a Capitol Police officer, a protester who was shot to death by Capitol Police and three others who died during the rioting.

halfulglas

(1,654 posts)
43. Oops, my bad. You're right by decades.
Sat Jan 23, 2021, 10:56 PM
Jan 2021

For some reason I remembered the Curt part, but the last name very wrong. I should know this because I've been around a long time and remember most of it really well and Curt Flood was very talented.

 

Hoyt

(54,770 posts)
13. If you are old enough, you'll remember near riots when SEC was integrated.
Sat Jan 23, 2021, 08:25 PM
Jan 2021

And it was decades before any coach dare field a Black quarterback. Quite ugly.

Buckeye_Democrat

(14,855 posts)
14. Lots of Southerners prefer college sports...
Sat Jan 23, 2021, 08:28 PM
Jan 2021

... with athletes working on a field for no pay.

I'm kidding, but sometimes I wonder!

I've worked with some obvious racists who've said they "only like NASCAR", or some other "sport" where black participants are very rare.

Dagstead Bumwood

(3,641 posts)
15. My father was a devout racist but the man loved his sports.
Sat Jan 23, 2021, 08:29 PM
Jan 2021

Baseball, boxing and wrestling were his favorites, and he could express love of the sport and his disdain for the Black participants at the same time. He wasn't the most logical person. The last vote he cast was for George Wallace, and when Wallace wasn't elected president my father decided this country didn't deserve his electoral participation any longer. God, he would have loved Trump, but instead he died with a Black man in the White House

Wawannabe

(5,661 posts)
20. My dad too
Sat Jan 23, 2021, 08:35 PM
Jan 2021

He hated Obama. Not a nice man especially in the end.

....And I rubbed it in that I voted for him twice. He died in Jan 2012.

Mr.Bill

(24,300 posts)
22. That's the thing I could never understand.
Sat Jan 23, 2021, 08:37 PM
Jan 2021

They don't want them using the same bathroom, but they let them handle their kids.

David__77

(23,418 posts)
23. They may consider white supremacy to be natural law.
Sat Jan 23, 2021, 08:41 PM
Jan 2021

At the same time, they may think they are kind and nice people. I think it’s wrong to consider white supremacy to be always hatred. There are various manifestations.

July

(4,750 posts)
39. Not just handle, they sometimes made slave "mammies" wet-nurses to their children.
Sat Jan 23, 2021, 09:45 PM
Jan 2021

Wet-nursing being breastfeeding, to be clear.

Too much effort for the plantation master’s wife, apparently, but not too much for a slave mother who was already nursing her own child.

Thus putting the lie to the idea that Black slaves were “animals,” or a different species altogether.

In my lifetime, whites were still trying to prevent letting Blacks drink from the same water fountain they used, but more than a hundred years before I was born, it was A-okay to let a Black woman’s milk nourish a white baby.

The hypocrisy is astounding.

July

(4,750 posts)
40. Not just handle, they sometimes made slave "mammies" wet-nurses to their children.
Sat Jan 23, 2021, 09:46 PM
Jan 2021

Wet-nursing being breastfeeding, to be clear.

Too much effort for the plantation master’s wife, apparently, but not too much for a slave mother who was already nursing her own child.

Thus putting the lie to the idea that Black slaves were “animals,” or a different species altogether.

In my lifetime, whites were still trying to prevent letting Blacks drink from the same water fountain they used, but more than a hundred years before I was born, it was A-okay to let a Black woman’s milk nourish a white baby.

The hypocrisy is astounding.

Wawannabe

(5,661 posts)
18. Sad to say but my dad was racist
Sat Jan 23, 2021, 08:33 PM
Jan 2021

He cursed it all the time. Still watched! ...but berated the African American players, cursed, smoked and was generally an asshole. He never learned different than what he was taught (and I believe) reinforced in the Army.


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Wawannabe

(5,661 posts)
24. Dad had PTSD
Sat Jan 23, 2021, 08:41 PM
Jan 2021

100% service connected. He was bipolar too.
I also know how he was brought up and that the Army reinforced that mentality. Pretty sure Army still segregated a lot even in 1969/70.

He wanted white players because he was a white supremecist. (sp?). I hated that part of him but I didn’t let him make me like that.

Mr.Bill

(24,300 posts)
33. My dad had a different experience in the Army.
Sat Jan 23, 2021, 09:06 PM
Jan 2021

I would imagine he was pretty racist before WWII. But by the time I was born in 1953, the N word was forbidden our household, and we were pretty much taught to treat black people nicely and with respect.

You see, my dad was in the Army Air Corps and flew over Nazi occupied Europe 50 times in a B24. On many of those missions they were escorted by the Tuskegee Airmen. I'm sure they saved my dad's ass many times. It's almost impossible to believe, but true, that the Tuskegee Airmen never lost one bomber they were escorting to an enemy fighter plane.

GulfCoast66

(11,949 posts)
31. Goes back forever. When Joe Lewis fought Max Schmeling all of America was pulling for him.
Sat Jan 23, 2021, 08:56 PM
Jan 2021

But few white Americans would have let him in their house.

Sadly, Schmeling was labeled the Nazi hero was was anything but a Nazi and detested them. After the war in which he was drafted and injured he became a successful man and actually supported Joe Lewis in his later years and even paid for his funeral. Life is funny that way.

hurl

(938 posts)
35. Might be kind of like rodeo
Sat Jan 23, 2021, 09:10 PM
Jan 2021

POC are not equals in their ignorant minds. Athletes of color rate about the same as a roped calf in their idiot brains - entertaining but not worth a second thought.

 

IngridsLittleAngel

(1,962 posts)
38. I come from a family of racists...
Sat Jan 23, 2021, 09:27 PM
Jan 2021

Growing up, I sure remember them watching their share of sports, especially boxing and football. They were absolutely fine with watching blacks beat the hell out of each other for their entertainment, but, once the game/match/fight was over, they had nothing but contempt and hatred for them. Once their careers were over? "Fuck off and die already!"

A lot like what we saw happen in Boston in the 50's and 60's. When Bill Russell was in his Celtic green and being one of the greatest players ever and helping the team win, he was wonderful. The moment the game was over, he was nothing but a n-word to them - complete with nasty letters, vandalizing his home, you name it.

So, yes. Plantation mentality. "The only thing you're good for is to entertain me!" These racists don't appreciate or respect these athletes... they merely use and exploit them.

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