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An unapologetic Biden is finally saying goodbye to the centrism that hobbled Democrats for decades
Jan 23, 2021 2:00pm Eastern Standard Time
by Kerry Eleveld, Daily Kos Staff
https://m.dailykos.com/stories/2021/1/23/2011376/-An-unapologetic-Biden-is-finally-saying-goodbye-to-the-centrism-that-hobbled-Democrats-for-decades
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As Barack Obama's inauguration kicked off on Jan. 20, 2009, LGBTQ Americans across the country watched with mixed emotions while evangelical pastor Rick Warren delivered the invocation. Though the vast majority of them had voted for Obama, Warren had urged members of his California-based megachurch to vote in favor of a ballot measure stripping marriage rights from same-sex couples; indeed, Proposition 8 narrowly passed on the same night Obama was elevated to the highest office in the land. Election Night had been a double-edged sword for gay and transgender individuals, and Warren's presence made the inauguration bittersweet as well.
But Obama's pick of Warren symbolized what ultimately emerged as a stumbling block to his ability to accomplish many of the priorities liberals had voted for in 2008 and which were also broadly popularaction on immigration, climate change, and, at least initially, queer rights. Obama was an incrementalist at heart, and he was still approaching Republicans as rational players in America's democratic experiment. Including an anti-gay evangelical pastor in his inauguration was one of several olive branches Obama extended to conservatives in the early days of his administration in what would prove to be a fruitless effort to win their cooperation. A dozen years later, however, Obama's former No. 2a man who was viewed in the 2020 Democratic primary as far less progressive than Obama was seen in the 2008 contestis quickly advancing a far more unapologetically progressive agenda from Day One of his administration.
In fact, President Joe Biden has quickly dispensed of many of the old Obama-era battles that flummoxed liberals and eventually drew them to the streets to protest the administration's inaction. Biden has already sent Congress a bold immigration bill that unequivocally includes a pathway to citizenship, expanded green card access, and fortifies the DACA program for Dreamers established by Obama in 2012. Biden also immediately yanked the Keystone XL pipeline permitan action Obama didn't take until 2015, after years of pushing by climate activists. And building on the many hard-fought Obama-era wins on LGBTQ equality, Biden quickly signed an order pushing the most aggressive interpretation of Title VII protections for transgender and gay Americans in employment, housing, and education.
Sure, these are old battles. And to some extent, Biden has benefited from a natural evolution of the issues over a decade. That is particularly true on policies concerning the LGBTQ movement, which emerged from Obama's presidency lightyears ahead of where it began. But it is also a measure of how far the progressive movement has come over the past decade that we aren't immediately having to go to battle with a Democratic administration that seems less intent on advancing liberal causes than using them as bargaining chips on the way to accomplishing other goals. So far, that vestige of 90s-era Clintonian politics seems to have finally been laid to rest in the Biden White House.
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Thekaspervote
(32,771 posts)Ferrets are Cool
(21,106 posts)montanacowboy
(6,089 posts)We need to seize the power we have now and use it!!!!!!! We need to get DC Statehood, giving us two more Senators. We must get rid of the filibuster. We have the people at our back and if we retreat one step and go back to the old way of kissing their asses, the Democratic Party will be done.
We need to fight like hell for every Senate and House Seat and build our majority and squeeze these bastards into the hell holes they came from.
peacebuzzard
(5,174 posts)I'm done with compromise or seeing it their way.
aint got time for that.
TheRickles
(2,065 posts)iluvtennis
(19,861 posts)James48
(4,436 posts)Celerity
(43,402 posts)statehood, and oppose doing away with the filibuster and SCOTUS expansion (far more than 1 or 2 oppose some of those). To even get a vote in the Senate for DC statehood, we will likely have to somehow overcome a filibuster.
There also is another issue that I have never seen discussed here.
The 23rd Amendment gave the DC residents 3 electoral votes. The DC statehood bill, in order to conform to the Constitution (another part that mandates a separate federal seat of national government) reduces the FEDERAL ENCLAVE (what the whole of DC is now) to just a small complex of buildings, with the only residents being those officially living in the White House.
IF the DC statehood law is passed now, whoever is POTUS will control 3 full electoral votes, potentially negating (if the POTUS is a Rethug) the State of Columbia's (or whatever DC is called after statehood) 3 EV's (guaranteed Democratic). The 23rd Amendment needs to be repealed somehow, IF DC becomes a state in such manner as the current bill calls for.
good link for much of this
https://www.washingtonpost.com/dc-md-va/2021/01/08/washington-dc-statehood-faq/
NYC Liberal
(20,136 posts)Electors aren't required to be selected by direct popular vote. State legislatures determine how they are chosen, and Congress, ultimately, is the legislature for the federal district. They could pass a law to have the electors chosen in some other way; perhaps have them given to the winner of the national popular vote.
Also I'm pretty sure no president has actually voted in DC. Don't they maintain residences in their home state and vote there? I could be wrong, but I know at least Obama and Trump did that.
Celerity
(43,402 posts)work, but I do not know if that would pass constitutional muster. Also, the 3 EV's WILL still exist, even if there is no one to vote and thus activate them, barring a constitutional amendment, so the total EV's would no longer be 538, but 541, and thus 271 needed to win. The positive is there would no longer be the possibility of a tie, and thus the nightmare of going to the House.
NYC Liberal
(20,136 posts)The 12th Amendment says:
Only the electors appointed count. So, the district could potentially just not appoint any.
Celerity
(43,402 posts)This whole thing (far beyond just DC statehood) is madness.
The Rethugs have gamed the system at most every level to give them power FAR beyond what they should have.
The Senate itself is a crazily undemocratic institution. Soon 70% of the seats will be controlled by just 30% of the population, and that 30% is far more white, less educated, more rural, more reactionary RW, more fundie religious, more anti-science than the other 70% of the population.
The Electoral College itself is the ONLY way the Rethugs can ever win the POTUS now, as it can block massive, permanent (I think, we shall see) popular vote victories by us.
Gerrymandering maintains another systemically unfair power advantage at both state (House and Senate) and federal (House) levels. Not only does this fuck up state assemblies and the House, but now Trump has helped put a turd in the punchbowl by kneecapping the 2020 Census, so it is possible that we get robbed out of a few seats at both state and federal levels. This (at the federal level) also fucks, possibly, with the Electoral College possibly being unfairly tilted (due to massive undercounts in Blue states) as the result of post 2020 reapportionment.
The Rethugs have absolutely fucked up the Federal judiciary system for decades, including the SCOTUS. Because of all listed in this rant, there is little we can do to solve this at present, as we do not have the votes to expand any level of the federal courts, including and especially SCOTUS.
The Rethugs also still commit MASSIVE systemic voter suppression (via state control of assemblies and governorships) is so so many Blue areas, especially in Red/pink/purple states such as Houston, etc etc (and of minority areas in red districts), which hurts us at every level, state and federal.
Because of many of these these actions and features of the system, we have to rely on electing so many centrist and conservative Dems in a multiplicity of artificially created purple/pink/red districts, and then we are held captive by these types, who end up blocking most all truly bold actions that could start to dismantle all this Rethug systemic shitbaggery. (which comes fr not only the flawed system and then their shithousery listed above, but also from an inability to pass legislation that would quite possible bring in tens of millions of new voters for us.) A lack of proportional representation is another longwave constitutional destructive force, as it defaults to a two-party system, where us Dems are often the loser as we are more likely to bleed out non-voters on the left than the Rethugs are on the right.
Hopefully we can use Rethug obstructionism as a battle cry to keep our majorities, BUT the very same obstructionism will also drive RW voters to the midterms, in order to try and crush Biden's presidency. 2022 looms ominously, as the last 2 first term Dem POTUS midterms (1994 and 2010- in 2010 we lost a net 63 House and a net 7 senate seats from post 2008) were disastrous for us, and the map is not at all great for us, despite what some have said. We will have 35 to as many as 50 or so House seats in danger, and as for the Senate, we have decent shots at only picking up 3 (the 2 open seats in NC and PA, plus maybe Johnson in WI) and we ourselves have to defend 4 at risk seats.
2022 US Senate 'in-play' races
At-Risk (even if marginal) Dems
In order of risk to us
Georgia (Warnock will be aided by Stacey Abram running for Governor though)
Nevada Catherine Cortez Masto (Brian Sandoval would be by far the toughest Rethug to beat)
New Hampshire Maggie Hassan (her two strongest opponents would probably be Former Senator Kelly Ayotte and especially Governor Sununu, plus the Rethugs flipped BOTH the State Senate and the State House in 2020 and now hold a Trifecta)
Arizona Mark Kelly (It will not be McSally running against him, perhaps it will be Ducey)
then the pretty much locks, but not 100%
Vermont Patrick Leahy (IF he retires, the very popular Rethug Governor Phil Scott may prove to be trouble)
Colorado Michael Bennet (I see little chance for him to lose barring a MASSIVE Red Wave)
Possible Rethug Flips
In order of risk to the Rethugs
Pennsylvania Open Seat (John Fetterman, the current Lieutenant Governor, is probably the favourite atm to win our nomination, along with Josh Shapiro, the current AG)
North Carolina Open Seat (Jeff Jackson can win this for us I think, he would have won in 2020 I am fairly sure, we ended up with the worst of the top 4 or 5 candidates possible)
Wisconsin Ron Johnson (asshat deluxe, I fucking hate this clown, would LOVE to see Mandela Barnes run, he is the current Lieutenant Governor)
the rest are harder
Florida Marco Rubio (will be fairly hard to beat him, barring Ivanka Trump shenanigans)
then the real long shots
Iowa Chuck Grassley (may retire he will turn 90yo in the first year of his next term if he runs, if he retires we have a better, if not great shot)
Kansas Jerry Moran Only shot we have, and it would be a long one, is if Sibelius runs this time, she should have ran in 2020 when it was an open seat for the other one!) If she refuses again, forget winning this seat.
then the pretty much 1% or less chance ones (Kansas will not even make the 1% list if Sibelius refuses to run again)
Kentucky Rand Paul (fucking berk, but this is a pipe dream atm, I fear)
Ohio Rob Portman
Indiana Todd Young (no clue if Buttigieg would try, Indiana is SO Red now, ffs)
Missouri Roy Blunt
UpInArms
(51,284 posts)With terrorists
mountain grammy
(26,623 posts)The whole article is great! Yes, yes, yes.. Joe has a mandate and he's using it.. he's learned all he needs to know about republicans..
Ms. Toad
(34,074 posts)in the first paragraph. It was such a betrayal to LGBT individuals who supported him both with our time and our money to have warren featured at the inauguration.
uponit7771
(90,346 posts)bucolic_frolic
(43,173 posts)Biden has a more thorough understanding of political ideologies, perhaps because he is older with long government service. Johnson was the last Democratic President who handled Republicans like equals.
Perhaps Biden senses the GOP is in the most perilous position of any party in American history, and is seizing the moment. If Democrats can accelerate here, while the GOP is infighting and sandbagged with Trump, maybe we will finally make progress.
dflprincess
(28,079 posts)Maybe he's decided the time has come when being progressive is pragmatic.
bucolic_frolic
(43,173 posts)Once he went to Warm Springs, GA I knew he had bigger ideas in mind, real Democratic ideas. I don't recall other Democratic candidates visiting there. It was a real signal that he might echo FDR's legacy in some ways.
JustAnotherGen
(31,828 posts)FDR wasn't so great for black folks. Biden is saying things in a way LBJ did. He went right at white supremacy in his inaugural speech -
Making me believe we chose the right person. We being black women.
I'm tired of the bullshit. He's not going to leave black Americans put of any Greater Society moves.
JI7
(89,251 posts)JI7
(89,251 posts)which means less support for conservative policy and more support for liberal policy which is mainly supported by minorities and women .
Cha
(297,275 posts)Progressive.. it means getting things DONE. So you work on going the best way about it.
No purity tests.. that's how he ran his campaign leading to the head Off with the Orange Ogre.
And yea, our most Loyal Voters who GOTV are Black Voters. Especially Black Women! Biden has a Mandate.
Fiendish Thingy
(15,619 posts)brush
(53,784 posts)That's the formula to win nationwide and in many congressional districts.
LymphocyteLover
(5,644 posts)But so far, he's unabashedly progresssive!
LudwigPastorius
(9,150 posts)This is DU.
There'll be somebody along soon enough labeling Biden and/or Harris as DINOs.
BGBD
(3,282 posts)that Biden was pushing the most progressive platform in history AND that his centrist image would make him the perfect person to pass a lot of it.
Karadeniz
(22,528 posts)Ignorant on theology and science. I wouldn't have chosen him. I guess the Dalai Lama was busy!
Dem2theMax
(9,651 posts)That's my President!
applegrove
(118,677 posts)he made mistakes in his administration so the Democratic Party and people are alltogether on this. I think it will catch on with obama then Trump voters, they'll come back. I think Biden will do well in 2022.
GulfCoast66
(11,949 posts)Ive been following politics since Carter. Yeah, I know many of you are older. Clinton might not have won without Perot. Americans were way more white, more religious and more conservative 30 years ago.
And if we are going to increase our margin in the House and Senate we will have to embrace a 50 state policy. Trying to win everywhere. I guarantee you any democrat who could win my district will not be super liberal.
America is a centrist left country. Not a European left country.
Dont confuse my pragmatism with my preference. Im further left than most Americans. I prefer a French system and would ditch Congress for a 1000 member Parliament. So yeah, Im to the left of most Americans. But I realize that.
WhiskeyGrinder
(22,355 posts)mzmolly
(50,993 posts)Joe Biden.
tiredtoo
(2,949 posts)We must get back to being supportive of the working man and woman in this country!
Liberty Belle
(9,535 posts)the Constitution was amended to prevent this in the future and limit presidents to only two terms.
He brought us such programs labeled "socialist" at the time such as Social Security and a public works program to put Americans back to work after the Depression, and he long advocated for healthcare for all.
Republicans have tried to demonize such policies ever since, but they were popular in the 1930s and 40s during FDR's long tenure.
liberalla
(9,249 posts)JoeOtterbein
(7,702 posts)summer_in_TX
(2,739 posts)for gay marriage, followed immediately by Obama.
Serving as Obama's VP put him in daily contact with many people of various races, and their stories. With his deep empathy it only makes sense that those stories touched his heart and also stirred his sense of justice.
I'm sure he knows he's the first president since LBJ with the deep knowledge of the Senate he has, and sees the opportunity to do great things for people that Lyndon did. Lyndon wasn't considered liberal at all. But once he had power he used it to do good.
Cha
(297,275 posts)I first saw this OP.
Hekate
(90,708 posts)Which is that there is no good faith dealing to be had with McConnell & Co. By all means, offer them the opportunity, but if they do their usual, move on without them, and move on fast.
Oh, and Dems in the House and Senate, for gods sake vote as a bloc.
sandensea
(21,636 posts)Times change; the party has to change with them.
Biden understands that - yet remains true to timeless Democratic principles such as expanding rights and fairness.
The right blend of tradition and progressivism.
IronLionZion
(45,447 posts)he was more liberal than Obama on issues like gay marriage and is familiar with how the GOP operates. There's no need to cave in to their demands as long as we have our slim majority in both houses.
The citizenship issue on the census should help us when it comes to redistricting. Many suburban areas have gotten more competitive for us with demographic changes.
badboy67
(460 posts)StevieM
(10,500 posts)democrank
(11,095 posts)President Biden is questioning the morality of ignoring racial and economic injustice.His straightforward demand for change is a lot more powerful than a quiet whisper begging us to not make waves.
March that impeachment paperwork over to the Senate, send Roto Rooter to clean up the Justice Department, give the BLM movement a break and shine a red hot light on The Proud Boys. State that were no longer going to let kids starve while we give tax breaks to billionaires.Get the children out of those cages and the insurrectionists out of Congress. Theres nothing far left about any of that.
moondust
(19,988 posts)In his defense, Joe represented Delaware for a long time. WorldAtlas says: "The financial sector is one of the backbone sectors of the economy of Delaware...Delaware is also Americas credit card capital."
I don't know how much that affected his orientation but I would assume it tended to pull him to the right--possibly farther than he would have preferred. He has so much empathy that he can clearly see that leaning right is not the answer now for him or the country.
ancianita
(36,060 posts)I'm glad the media finally got wind of it, and Daily Kos finally summarized the evidence.
We've been telling them Democratic centrist days were over that since the day Bernie's progressive goals got onto half the party platform. Maybe some Democrats who need to call themselves 'centrist' back home ought to rebrand their centrism a bit.
Man, media are slow af.
betsuni
(25,537 posts)What only-Bernie goals got into half the party platform?
DeminPennswoods
(15,286 posts)and said his preference is for Biden to go "fast" and "big and bold".
Progressive dog
(6,904 posts)There is no ideology involved in saving the economy or protecting the American people from a pandemic. Common sense is all that is required.